American Athletic Conference

[Kung Wu]

I can't get past how much this looks like the drunk district attorney down in Travis County, Texas. Sorry for the off topic post, but that enters my brain every time I scroll through this thread. LMAO

[MoValley John]

I can't get past how much this looks like the drunk district attorney down in Travis County, Texas. Sorry for the off topic post, but that enters my brain every time I scroll through this thread. LMAO

[MoValley John]

From MissouriState247.com

This may be a dumb question, but I mean it in all sincerity...is the Big 12 even a remote possibility? And if not...why not? Is it our small endowment, lack of specific programs, athletic facilities? I really don't know.

I have always assumed we'd need to take a step up to a conference like the SunBelt as a baby step toward the Big 12 (in say 20-25 years). But I'm just curious if there are specific things that disqualify us from the Big 12 today. If not, is it possible the administration is dreaming so big that they'd rather skip a shot at the SBC thinking we could have a shot at the Big 12 within the next 10 years?

Yes, Missouri State, it is your small endowment. This is why you can't get a second date with a hot chick, this is why you always complain about the pool being cold and this is why you won't get an invitation to the prom, err, Big 12. Now stay up late, watch the PosTvac infomercial, buy the thing, use it and call the Big 12 when you're a bit more endowed.

[Shocker-maniac]

$61M endowment??? Wow, that is small.

[ShockerMas]

is the Big 12 even a remote possibility?

I'd like to apologize to anyone down in Wichita who I woke up with my laughter from all the way up here in Illinois...what a delusional joke...

[AndShock]

This is exactly why SWOMO will never amount to anything. They always set their sights too low. They shoot for the Big XII when they could shoot for the SEC. They hire Paul Lusk when they could hire Coach K. They recruit kids like Austin Ruder (no offense to him) when you could be landing Thon Makers. The only thing holding SWOMO back is themselves.

[AndShock]

Ok, found the actual post on their board. At least there is someone there to immediately set the record straight. The first person to respond clears it up and says SWOMO has no shot at the Big XII.....because their academics aren't good enough.


.......wtf

[ShockerFever]

BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!111

That is some funny sh*t right there.

[SHOCKvalue]

$61M endowment??? Wow, that is small.

It has been a while since I looked all the data up, but IIRC WSU absolutely destroys the rest of the public schools in the MVC when it comes to endowment. Totally the haves versus have-nots.

I'm also fairly sure that MSU's athletic budget is towards the bottom of the MVC as well. Another place where we totally own the Valley of Fluff.

That's not to say our profile fits a P5 conference either, but it sure feels like we are the lone progressor in a conference of regressors.

[Rocky Mountain Shock]

It has been a while since I looked all the data up, but IIRC WSU absolutely destroys the rest of the public schools in the MVC when it comes to endowment. Totally the haves versus have-nots.

I'm also fairly sure that MSU's athletic budget is towards the bottom of the MVC as well. Another place where we totally own the Valley of Fluff.

That's not to say our profile fits a P5 conference either, but it sure feels like we are the lone progressor in a conference of regressors.

You piqued my interest, so...

oyola University Chicago	Chicago, Illinois (2,718,782)			Private		$405,955,000	Ramblers
Bradley University	Peoria, Illinois (119,698)			Private		$227,539,450	Braves
Wichita State University	Wichita, Kansas (385,577)			Public		$210,567,384	Shockers
Drake University	Des Moines, Iowa (203,433)			Private		$149,284,407	Bulldogs
Southern Illinois University	Carbondale, Illinois (26,241)			Public		$94,596,800	Salukis
University of Evansville	Evansville, Indiana (120,235)			Private (Methodist)		$74,420,319	Purple Aces (most) Lady Aces (women's basketball)
University of Northern Iowa	Cedar Falls, Iowa (39,993)			Public		$68,600,583	Panthers
Illinois State University	Normal, Illinois (53,837)			Public		$67,288,958	Redbirds
Missouri State University	Springfield, Missouri (164,122)			Public		$62,262,517	Bears (men's) Lady Bears (women's basketball)
Indiana State University	Terre Haute, Indiana (61,112)			Public		$47,585,398	Sycamores

[Rocky Mountain Shock]

Just for comparison's sake, here's the American:

Southern Methodist University	University Park, Texas	Private (Methodist)		$1,268,079,000
Tulane University	New Orleans, Louisiana	Private		$1,047,813,000
University of Cincinnati	Cincinnati, Ohio	Public (USO)		$1,045,606,000
University of Tulsa	Tulsa, Oklahoma	Private (Presbyterian)		$885,458,000
University of Houston	Houston, Texas	Public (UHS)		$716,422,000
University of South Florida	Tampa, Florida	Public (SUSF)		$363,924,000
University of Connecticut	Storrs, Connecticut	Public		$344,174,000
Temple University	Philadelphia, Pennsylvania	Public (CSHE)		$323,837,000
University of Memphis	Memphis, Tennessee	Public (TBR)		$218,308,000
East Carolina University	Greenville, North Carolina	Public (UNC)		$144,701,000
University of Central Florida	Orlando, Florida	Public (SUSF)		$135,462,000

[AZ Shocker]

....and I bet that if Wichita St. moved to the AAC...that the dollars for endowment would go even HIGHER!!!!

[Play Angry]

I am surprised Tulsa has that much scrilla.

[Shocker-maniac]

I am surprised Tulsa has that much scrilla.

oil

[SHOCKvalue]

You piqued my interest, so...

Not trying to "fact" you at all, but the WSU figure you have is actually low. The WSU Foundation says that as of a little over a year ago we sit at $237M, and I believe I've heard in the media recently that giving to WSU has been at record levels lately.