Coronavirus 2019-nCov: Political Thread

[ShockerFever]

I had not known one single person who tested positive for the hellaciously contagious disease since the pandemic began 6 months ago until a few weeks ago. My uncle, who works for Via Christi, tested positive for it. He's in his lower 60's, passed it on to my aunt who has lupus and other chronic fatigue type illnesses. Both of them had fever, cough, and exhaustion for 2-3 days and then got better and have since totally recovered. My grandpa, who has been very cautious and I have not seen since last February, contracted it from my uncle after they visited each other without masks a few days prior to my uncle's symptom onset and positive test. My grandpa is 86 with a pacemaker. He reported mild exhaustion for a couple days and no other symptoms. He is reportedly fine now 3 weeks later. Contrary to what the media and certain people like to present, this virus is not a death sentence if you're in a certain age group or with certain ailments or conditions. Only the extreme cases are talked about and make the headlines. And that's if you believe the accuracy of all the numbers.

Just thought I'd thrown in my two cents since it finally indirectly affected me - 3 people in 6 months - by the most contagious disease on the planet.

[WuDrWu]

Heartwarming to hear your family has recovered 'Fev. Thank you for sharing that.

[wufan]

I had not known one single person who tested positive for the hellaciously contagious disease since the pandemic began 6 months ago until a few weeks ago. My uncle, who works for Via Christi, tested positive for it. He's in his lower 60's, passed it on to my aunt who has lupus and other chronic fatigue type illnesses. Both of them had fever, cough, and exhaustion for 2-3 days and then got better and have since totally recovered. My grandpa, who has been very cautious and I have not seen since last February, contracted it from my uncle after they visited each other without masks a few days prior to my uncle's symptom onset and positive test. My grandpa is 86 with a pacemaker. He reported mild exhaustion for a couple days and no other symptoms. He is reportedly fine now 3 weeks later. Contrary to what the media and certain people like to present, this virus is not a death sentence if you're in a certain age group or with certain ailments or conditions. Only the extreme cases are talked about and make the headlines. And that's if you believe the accuracy of all the numbers.

Just thought I'd thrown in my two cents since it finally indirectly affected me - 3 people in 6 months - by the most contagious disease on the planet.

Great news!

[wichshock65]

I had not known one single person who tested positive for the hellaciously contagious disease since the pandemic began 6 months ago until a few weeks ago. My uncle, who works for Via Christi, tested positive for it. He's in his lower 60's, passed it on to my aunt who has lupus and other chronic fatigue type illnesses. Both of them had fever, cough, and exhaustion for 2-3 days and then got better and have since totally recovered. My grandpa, who has been very cautious and I have not seen since last February, contracted it from my uncle after they visited each other without masks a few days prior to my uncle's symptom onset and positive test. My grandpa is 86 with a pacemaker. He reported mild exhaustion for a couple days and no other symptoms. He is reportedly fine now 3 weeks later. Contrary to what the media and certain people like to present, this virus is not a death sentence if you're in a certain age group or with certain ailments or conditions. Only the extreme cases are talked about and make the headlines. And that's if you believe the accuracy of all the numbers.

Just thought I'd thrown in my two cents since it finally indirectly affected me - 3 people in 6 months - by the most contagious disease on the planet.

So glad the hear everyone is good! Just out of curiosity, is your aunt taking hydroxychloroquine for her lupus?

[C0|dB|00ded]

I had not known one single person who tested positive for the hellaciously contagious disease since the pandemic began 6 months ago until a few weeks ago. My uncle, who works for Via Christi, tested positive for it. He's in his lower 60's, passed it on to my aunt who has lupus and other chronic fatigue type illnesses. Both of them had fever, cough, and exhaustion for 2-3 days and then got better and have since totally recovered. My grandpa, who has been very cautious and I have not seen since last February, contracted it from my uncle after they visited each other without masks a few days prior to my uncle's symptom onset and positive test. My grandpa is 86 with a pacemaker. He reported mild exhaustion for a couple days and no other symptoms. He is reportedly fine now 3 weeks later. Contrary to what the media and certain people like to present, this virus is not a death sentence if you're in a certain age group or with certain ailments or conditions. Only the extreme cases are talked about and make the headlines. And that's if you believe the accuracy of all the numbers.

Just thought I'd thrown in my two cents since it finally indirectly affected me - 3 people in 6 months - by the most contagious disease on the planet.

It's always great to hear about another Covid-19 survivor, particularly those at significant risk. Unfortunately you had to take it political at the end.

Every time a Trump groupie (by groupie I mean someone that would blindly follow him off a cliff) repeats the Covidiotic propagandist mantra that this pandemic is joke, another person dies or becomes disabled. I think I can say that with a straight face. While the estimated deaths from influenza during the peak months are as high as 500 daily, there has never been more than 750 flu deaths in a week officially recorded. Meanwhile we are exiting the summer season (one of the quietest periods of the year with regard to population sickness) clocking 50k infections a day and 1,200 deaths. That should scare the living **** out of anybody with even a modicum of healthcare understanding, as we are only a few months away from entering the "sickest" period of the year.

Experts are now predicting we will move up to 2k daily deaths, meanwhile Germany's restaurant industry is back to pre-pandemic levels and South K. and Taiwan are filling up their baseball stadiums... We are the laughing stock of the world and I will absolutely say that Trump is partly to blame. All these countries took the pandemic as serious as a heart attack from the start and now they are reaping the rewards. The U.S. hasn't even hit bottom yet. Trump called it a Nothingburger, scoffed at the idea of wearing a mask, and told us it will just disappear someday soon. Incompetent.

[ShockerFever]

It's always great to hear about another Covid-19 survivor, particularly those at significant risk. Unfortunately you had to take it political at the end.

Every time a Trump groupie (by groupie I mean someone that would blindly follow him off a cliff) repeats the Covidiotic propagandist mantra that this pandemic is joke, another person dies or becomes disabled. I think I can say that with a straight face. While the estimated deaths from influenza during the peak months are as high as 500 daily, there has never been more than 750 flu deaths in a week officially recorded. Meanwhile we are exiting the summer season (one of the quietest periods of the year with regard to population sickness) clocking 50k infections a day and 1,200 deaths. That should scare the living **** out of anybody with even a modicum of healthcare understanding, as we are only a few months away from entering the "sickest" period of the year.

Experts are now predicting we will move up to 2k daily deaths, meanwhile Germany's restaurant industry is back to pre-pandemic levels and South K. and Taiwan are filling up their baseball stadiums... We are the laughing stock of the world and I will absolutely say that Trump is partly to blame. All these countries took the pandemic as serious as a heart attack from the start and now they are reaping the rewards. The U.S. hasn't even hit bottom yet. Trump called it a Nothingburger, scoffed at the idea of wearing a mask, and told us it will just disappear someday soon. Incompetent.

Again, if you trust the numbers.

I don’t understand. Are you comparing those significantly smaller (area and population) countries and their strategies to that of the United States? What exactly should have been done differently? Hide out with a mask and shot down the economy until 2021? That’s the only way to truly stop it. Are you implying we would be able to open up to normal levels like other smaller countries if we would’ve hid for 6 months? That wouldn’t have stopped it. It would’ve just delayed it. And destroyed the economy.

[ShockerFever]

So glad the hear everyone is good! Just out of curiosity, is your aunt taking hydroxychloroquine for her lupus?

That I do not know. I will try to inquire about that.

[C0|dB|00ded]

This is the U.S. as of yesterday in case anybody was confused:











Here's Germany:



Oh, and btw... 7 deaths yesterday in a country of 83M. New York only had 7 deaths yesterday as well.

[SB Shock]

While the estimated deaths from influenza during the peak months are as high as 500 daily, there has never been more than 750 flu deaths in a week officially recorded.

COLD FACT CHECK - WRONG AGAIN

You evidently missed this article

https://fortune.com/2018/02/10/american-flu-deaths/

entitled "The Flu is Killing Up to 4,000 Americans a Week"

This was written for the 2017-18 flu season where the CDC had reported in 2018

CDC statistics show 4,064 Americans died from the flu or pneumonia during the third week of the new year, while the illnesses were responsible for 1 in 10 fatalities in the first week of February.

I would say you continue to hurt any credibility you might have but posting your drivel - but at this point you have none. You should stick to something you know - like crayons.

But imagine what the 2017-2018 year would have been like if they reported every flu case and death.....

[C0|dB|00ded]

COLD FACT CHECK - WRONG AGAIN

You evidently missed this article

https://fortune.com/2018/02/10/american-flu-deaths/

entitled "The Flu is Killing Up to 4,000 Americans a Week"

This was written for the 2017-18 flu season where the CDC had reported in 2018



I would say you continue to hurt any credibility you might have but posting your drivel - but at this point you have none. You should stick to something you know - like crayons.

But imagine what the 2017-2018 year would have been like if they reported every flu case and death.....

https://www.healthline.com/health-ne...9-isnt-the-flu

But COVID-19 is not the seasonal flu.

In many ways, it’s much worse.

A column Trusted Sourceprinted in the Journal of the American Medical Association (JAMA) on May 14 noted that flu deaths and COVID-19 deaths are not even reported the same way.

The column written by Dr. Jeremy Samuel Faust, MS, an emergency medicine specialist affiliated with Brigham and Women’s Hospital in Massachusetts, states that flu deaths are estimated while COVID-19 deaths are confirmed cases.

He notes that during mid-April the “counted deaths” for COVID-19 in the United States were around 15,000 per week. During a typical “peak week” for the flu, the “counted deaths” are about 750.

Faust concludes that COVID-19 deaths are actually anywhere from 10 times to 44 times the number of influenza fatalities.

Other experts say there are also reasons beyond the raw statistics that indicate COVID-19 is more dangerous than influenza.

P.S. I am likely the most informed person on the pandemic that you know, SB. And that's no lie. :)

[wufan]

https://www.healthline.com/health-ne...9-isnt-the-flu

It’s as if I’m watching MSN on November 8, 2016.

[wichshock65]

What?

[ShockerFever]

When Cold ignores your posts, you better pat yourself on the back and celebrate the win.

[shoxtop]

This is the U.S. as of yesterday in case anybody was confused:

Here's Germany:



Oh, and btw... 7 deaths yesterday in a country of 83M. New York only had 7 deaths yesterday as well.

Are you going to wave to Sweden as we blow past their deaths per capita next week? Did they take the virus more seriously than we did?

[C0|dB|00ded]

When Cold ignores your posts, you better pat yourself on the back and celebrate the win.

I haven't the time to respond to every post sport, don't take it personal. I don't get paid to do this, although maybe I should. If we were all debating live (VOIP) I would have shut down all the chatter long ago. But as it stands, ya'll will just have to die by a thousand tiny cuts (posts). I'd rather it not be this way. I'd rather we all just talk about the situation in a rational, friendly manner. But it is so emotionally charged at this point. The horses are out of the barn so to speak. Thanks Donald.

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-...19-projections

By Dec. 1, the U.S. death toll from COVID-19 could reach nearly 300,000. That's the grim new projection from researchers at the University of Washington's Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation — one of the more prominent teams modeling the pandemic. The new forecast, released Thursday, projects that between now and December, 137,000 people will die on top of the roughly 160,000 who have died so far.

One assumption the projection does not include is the prospect of rising use of masks. And this is where the picture gets more hopeful. Murray estimates that currently about 50% of people in the U.S. are wearing masks when they are out and about. The team then ran a simulation to see what would happen if starting today, that share was increased to 95% of Americans wearing masks. They found that this would cut the number of deaths by Dec. 1 almost in half — saving 66,000 lives.

But what would it take to get so many more Americans to start wearing masks? Murray says that based on an analysis of the data, tough mandates could really help. IHME's team estimates that when officials make masks mandatory, use increases by 8 percentage points. And when the mandates include penalties, there's a 15 percentage point bump.

Masks matter. It doesn't matter how they matter, they just do. Every time someone makes a politically charged statement and emboldens another misled and confused soul, we fall further behind in the race. A helpful attitude equates to lives saved. Start taking the situation seriously and ask those in your circle to do so as well.