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Originally posted by HockeyShock View PostAlso, let's dial back the hand-wringing over the polls and the vitriol a bit and remember that this team can beat any team in the country, no matter what little number they put next to their name. 1-seed, 16-seed, at-large, play-in, this team can deliver wherever they're put in the Dance.
Would a 1-seed be nice? Absolutely. I never thought I'd see a day where WSU was a 1-seed, but that doesn't make the path to the F4 any easier once the ball is tipped. One game at a time, and be confident that the guys won't let you down.
You forgot to add the following disclaimer.
DISCLAIMER: By doesn't make the path to the F4 any easier, I am ignoring all historical data that shows 1 seeds make the final four more often than other seeds and the unblemished record in their first game. I am also aware that even though 1 seeds do have the highest rate to make the final four, still less than 50% of the teams who were 1 seeds have made the final four since 1979. I am mainly stating that there are plenty of games against top teams that are given more than a puncher's chance to beat any other team in the country.Last edited by jdmee; January 21, 2014, 03:03 PM.
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Originally posted by jdmee View PostYou forgot to add the following disclaimer.
DISCLAIMER: By doesn't make the path to the F4 any easier, I am ignoring all historical data that shows 1 seeds make the final four more often than other seeds and the unblemished record in their first game. I am also aware that even though 1 seeds do have the highest rate to make the final four, still less than 50% of the teams who were 1 seeds have made the final four since 1979. I am mainly stating that there are plenty of games against top teams that are given more puncher's chance to beat any other team in the country.
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IMO, there's far too much emphasis on the "polls."
For me, I'm just glad that the "media" is finally beginning to take notice
of what the Shockers are doing - - (compared to earlier weeks when the
Shockers were essentially iginored.)
As the Shocks continue winning, I'm sure they'll start getting the coverage
they so well deserve.
Patience, kids.......Shocker Alum
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A lot of fans on here hate the notion of saying a game should be "easy" because every opponent at that time of year is tough, just to varying degrees. Others don't mind saying a game should be easy since, statistically, a top team usually beats those ranked many spots beneath it on whatever scale is being used (RPI, kenpom, etc).
I think we could substitute in "likely" and everyone would agree. Being a 1 seed makes the path to a Final Four more likely. The games are of course still tough; the wins are of course more likely.
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Originally posted by pie n eye View PostOf course, you are right. When I said "essentially a first round bye" I only meant that a 16 has never beat a 1. Which of course doesn't mean jack once they roll the balls out. It will happen eventually and I would hate for WSU to be the team it happened to.“Let your plans be dark and impenetrable as night, and when you move, fall like a thunderbolt.”
-Sun Tzu, The Art of War
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Originally posted by shockerfan View PostYou do realize KU winning or losing also affects our seeding right? So yeah, them losing some games is kind of important even from a potential seeding standpoint. Sheesh some of you people lol.
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Originally posted by kochHead View PostYeah, as a 1 seed this would be my only fear. I still think it was absolute BS what the media did to the Zags last year.
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http://espn.go.com/mens-college-bask.../powerrankings Not sure if the espn power rankings have been posted yet but we are up to 4. With the loss to Creigton, Nova dropped like a boat anchor.
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Originally posted by The Cat View Posthttp://espn.go.com/mens-college-bask.../powerrankings Not sure if the espn power rankings have been posted yet but we are up to 4. With the loss to Creigton, Nova dropped like a boat anchor.
The complaints about their opponents is there, but the Shockers can only play the teams on their schedule. And they've beaten them all.Kansas is Flat. The Earth is Not!!
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Originally posted by kochHead View PostYeah, as a 1 seed this would be my only fear. I still think it was absolute BS what the media did to the Zags last year.Kansas is Flat. The Earth is Not!!
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