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Originally posted by RoyalShock View PostConsider that the AAC is getting $7 mil per school and the L8 is, at worst, is now worth 8-9 mil per school. If the L8 were to take the top 3-4 from the AAC, who are primarily responsible for the $7 mil value, those schools would probably add a mil or two to the per school value of the L8. If they had assurance (which I don't know what that would take) the conference would be stable for 5 years, there is no doubt in my mind that UC, UM, UCF, UH or whoever jump at the extra $3 mil without ever looking back.
I think it's extremely unlikely that the two would merge to form a 20-team conference without teams getting left out (ie, adding Boise and BYU and dropping Navy/WSU). That's why the best case scenario is for one or two of the L8 to jump and some of the rest come to the AAC. But if those other conferences aren't adding new members, we're back to the likely scenario of the L8 staying together and robbing the AAC.
Will the AAC add more teams to replace? Sure. But they are going to pull the best football schools possible, not basketball schools. And I shudder to think what kind of mess we'll be left with on the basketball side of things. I admit, I don't follow college football, so I don't know who the best of the rest are, but I doubt that includes schools like Dayton, VCU or other basketball-centric schools.
I don't think it will be to the point of regretting leaving the MVC, but the resulting AAC may not be a significant improvement.
If that is what shakes out, we should beg the Big East, and heck, even pursue the A-10.
This is a pretty uninformed list, but to the best of my thinking, maybe: Northern Iowa, North Dakota State, South Dakota State… that’s all I got.
I just did a Google search for “best fcs football teams” and that list made me gag.
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Originally posted by Fake Gregg Marshall View Post
They are officially slated to join the SEC in 2025. You think they’ll pay up to break contract? I genuinely have no idea if this would be a rewarding decision for them to make.
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Originally posted by Fake Gregg Marshall View Post
I’m trying to think of decent football schools that the American would take, and would want to jump to the American, and what basketball would look like.
This is a pretty uninformed list, but to the best of my thinking, maybe: Northern Iowa, North Dakota State, South Dakota State… that’s all I got.
I just did a Google search for “best fcs football teams” and that list made me gag.
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Originally posted by Fake Gregg Marshall View Post
And that’s when we suddenly become a Catholic school.
We've also mentioned another "academic" strategy. Add UConn (football only), UMass, Rice, and Buffalo. With those additions---you've strongly established the academic credentials of the conference. The AAC would have 2 state flagships, 3 AAU schools, and a cadre of highly respected private schools. The AAC would have an institutional profile very similar to the ACC.
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I think our best hope is that Houston, Cincy, Memphis, and the Florida schools are still pissed at the B12-2-2 soliciting their applications 5 years ago and then refusing all of them.
The revenue difference between some AAC schools joining the B12-2-2, and sticking with the AAC is just a couple of million $$. While that's significant, Bowlsby has not shown any type of leadership that would convince schools that the B12-2-2 night be more stable with a couple of AAC teams.
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Originally posted by C0|dB|00ded View Post
I'll buy my first rosary tomorrow.
Some dude ^^^ on the conference board's bright idea if we get poached. It's high comedy over there. Half are talking about their new lives in the B12 and thanking everybody that helped them along the way, the other half are talking like they suffered a mild stroke. I'm just lurking (because banned of course) and biting my nails.
UMass and Rice? In the words of Michael Scott: “Please, God, no. No. NOOOOOOOOOO!”
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Originally posted by WuTheOne View PostI think our best hope is that Houston, Cincy, Memphis, and the Florida schools are still pissed at the B12-2-2 soliciting their applications 5 years ago and then refusing all of them.
The revenue difference between some AAC schools joining the B12-2-2, and sticking with the AAC is just a couple of million $$. While that's significant, Bowlsby has not shown any type of leadership that would convince schools that the B12-2-2 night be more stable with a couple of AAC teams.
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Originally posted by Fake Gregg Marshall View Post
I’m trying to think of decent football schools that the American would take, and would want to jump to the American, and what basketball would look like.
This is a pretty uninformed list, but to the best of my thinking, maybe: Northern Iowa, North Dakota State, South Dakota State… that’s all I got.
I just did a Google search for “best fcs football teams” and that list made me gag.
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We have to remember that there is a fairly big exit fee from the AAC and a 27 month notice requirement. That doesn't seem to be talked about a lot.
And while I certainly understand the notion that UCF/Houston et all leaving for an unstable Big 12 still has upside for them, I think I would be a bit nervous when virtually all of the remaining 8 in the Big 12 seem eager to take the first leap, especially KU. Does adding UCF etc make it more enticing for OSU, KU and ISU to stay? I don't think so.
I supposed it is in some way the dilemma WSU had when leaving the MVC for the AAC right after many AAC programs were publicly auditioning for the Big 12.
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Originally posted by C0|dB|00ded View PostDo you think the AAC could poach the MWC? Would be nice to have UNLV in the conference as one of the replacements. I have absolutely NO idea what kind of football they play, but their basketball can be quite good. I don't know if they're cheaters or what, but they usually have some great recruits.
Jumping farther to the west would seemingly bring more value, but also brings up travel issues for non revenue sports and would the money be worth it? SDSU, UNLV, Boise (not what they once were) and...? I would think you'd need four or five to get it done. I'm not sure BYU would join unless ESPN makes it work for them.Infinity Art Glass - Fantastic local artist and Shocker fan
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Originally posted by Fake Gregg Marshall View Post
I’m trying to think of decent football schools that the American would take, and would want to jump to the American, and what basketball would look like.
This is a pretty uninformed list, but to the best of my thinking, maybe: Northern Iowa, North Dakota State, South Dakota State… that’s all I got.
I just did a Google search for “best fcs football teams” and that list made me gag.
Few of these sound good for basketball. Buffalo had some success, as has WKU. Liberty has made huge investments, but they're Liberty and that rubs people the wrong way. Marshall and USM have had flirtations with success.Infinity Art Glass - Fantastic local artist and Shocker fan
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Originally posted by WuTheOne View PostI think our best hope is that Houston, Cincy, Memphis, and the Florida schools are still pissed at the B12-2-2 soliciting their applications 5 years ago and then refusing all of them.
The revenue difference between some AAC schools joining the B12-2-2, and sticking with the AAC is just a couple of million $$. While that's significant, Bowlsby has not shown any type of leadership that would convince schools that the B12-2-2 night be more stable with a couple of AAC teams.Infinity Art Glass - Fantastic local artist and Shocker fan
RIP Guy Always A Shocker
Carpenter Place - A blessing to many young girls/women
ICT S.O.S - Great local cause fighting against human trafficking
Wartick Insurance Agency - Saved me money with more coverage.
Save Shocker Sports - A rallying cry
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