Coronavirus 2019-nCoV

[pinstripers]

Kip Herriage @KHerriage

If Trump was still president, the vast majority on the left would not be vaccinated, would have no plans to get vaccinated and the media would be celebrating their courage, intelligence & independence.

“Orange man bad, me no takee his experimental jabs. Not now, not ever”

[wufan]

This is gonna be controversial, but I think there is a very good chance we have reached herd immunity. Nobody wants to be "THAT GUY" and put their neck out there and be wrong, but I don't mind. From what I am seeing, the existing major variants will not cause a massive new wave of infections. I think we are at about 70% population immunity.

That doesn't mean if you are over 65 you shouldn't get the vax. You should.

That doesn't mean people won't still pass away from the disease and complications of the disease for a little bit.

It doesn't mean people won't still get sick. I think when kids go back to school we will have a bunch snotty kids and parents.

There will still be pockets of outbreaks, but the magnitude and duration of those outbreaks will fizzle quickly.

I think the herd overall, however, is protected and this thing is gonna die down fairly quickly to quite manageable numbers -- barring a new unstudied selected-for variant developing (which is statistically extremely unlikely to happen).

I agree. We are on a healthy decrease across the nations. States like Kansas, North Dakota, and other sparsely populated states are going to see some spikes, but nothing like before, and most importantly, the Delta isn’t as dangerous.

[wufan]

If we are mandating the vaccine, why hasn’t the FDA approved it?

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Should you get vaccinated?

1. Are you under 30 and healthy?
2. Have you been previously infected?

If the answer to both is no, then you should get vaccinated. Everything else is about virtue signaling.

Wow! A full pivot on the REALITY that a vaccine gives better immunity than a mild/asymptomatic infection. And a Pfizer employee no less? Sir, you are either expert trolling at this point or have gone straight loco.

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And hereeeeeeeee comes the Herd Immunity guy! I knew you were up to no good when you attempted to float the argument that natural infection is a superior choice to the vaccine.

Herd immunity, anti-vax, kookiness. Aaand it's Friday!

Well done sir!

[RoyalShock]

This is gonna be controversial, but I think there is a very good chance we have reached herd immunity. Nobody wants to be "THAT GUY" and put their neck out there and be wrong, but I don't mind. From what I am seeing, the existing major variants will not cause a massive new wave of infections. I think we are at about 70% population immunity.

That doesn't mean if you are over 65 you shouldn't get the vax. You should.

That doesn't mean people won't still pass away from the disease and complications of the disease for a little bit.

It doesn't mean people won't still get sick. I think when kids go back to school we will have a bunch snotty kids and parents.

There will still be pockets of outbreaks, but the magnitude and duration of those outbreaks will fizzle quickly.

I think the herd overall, however, is protected and this thing is gonna die down fairly quickly to quite manageable numbers -- barring a new unstudied selected-for variant developing (which is statistically extremely unlikely to happen).

Dr. Scott Gottlieb said something very similar a week or so ago, that he believes this will be the last "wave" in the U.S., unless a new mutation that is resistant to current vaccines and antibodies emerges.

[Kung Wu]

And hereeeeeeeee comes the Herd Immunity guy! I knew you were up to no good when you attempted to float the argument that natural infection is a superior choice to the vaccine.

Herd immunity, anti-vax, kookiness. Aaand it's Friday!

Well done sir!

That's not what I said, and your response was also a change of subject.

Focus.

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https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/13/health/us-coronavirus-friday/index.html

As experts race to mitigate the spread of Covid-19 by encouraging vaccinations and mask wearing, hospital systems in a handful of states are now straining to keep up with the surge.

Eight states, many of which have lagged the national average for vaccinations, have Covid-19 patients that account for at least 15% of their overall hospitalizations: Alabama, Arkansas, Florida, Georgia, Louisiana, Mississippi, Nevada and Texas, according to a CNN analysis of data from the US Department of Health and Human Services.

Of all Covid-19 hospitalizations, these eight states' combined totals make up approximately 51% of patients, though the states account for only around 24% of the nation's population, according to Census data."In the past week, Florida has had more Covid cases than all 30 states with the lowest case rates combined. And Florida and Texas alone have accounted for nearly 40% of new hospitalizations across the country," White House Covid-19 response coordinator Jeff Zients said Thursday during a White House briefing.

Mississippi on Friday reported 5,023 new cases, a daily record, the state Department of Health said. Of the new cases, 98% of those are in unvaccinated people, the state's dashboard shows.

And Chief Medical Officer Dr. Geoff Lifferth at Sumner Regional Medical Center in Gallatin, Tennessee, said the hospital had no more open beds. "As an ER doc and a healthcare administrator, this past week has been one of the most exhausting and disheartening of my career," he said in an emotional Facebook post.

Looks like the states marked in RED are gonna see how the "natural vaccination" plan works out. They must be subscribed to our thread.

FDA authorizes 3rd dose to immunocompromised


Health officials continue to stress that widespread vaccinations are needed to temper the effects of the surge in the weeks ahead.

"Of the nearly 1,500 now in a hospital for Covid-19, more than 1,300 are unvaccinated," the Mississippi Department of Health said on Thursday.

More than 99.99% of people who are fully vaccinated against Covid-19 have not had a breakthrough case resulting in hospitalization or death, according to a CNN analysis of CDC data. Of the more than 164 million people in the US fully vaccinated as of August 2, fewer than 0.001% of those individuals -- 1,507 people -- died from Covid-19.

Yes! A military style victory for the fine men and women in the labs and hospitals around America!

Ya'll have a great weekend! And look into that Moderna vaccine if your last vaccination was 5 mos. ago or greater. It could be a great add to your personal Covid vaccine portfolio. :)

[wufan]

Wow! A full pivot on the REALITY that a vaccine gives better immunity than a mild/asymptomatic infection. And a Pfizer employee no less? Sir, you are either expert trolling at this point or have gone straight loco.

What other illnesses are there where you vaccinate AFTER you’ve been infected?

[MikeKennedyRulZ]

Kip Herriage @KHerriage

If Trump was still president, the vast majority on the left would not be vaccinated, would have no plans to get vaccinated and the media would be celebrating their courage, intelligence & independence.

“Orange man bad, me no takee his experimental jabs. Not now, not ever”

This is fact!

I believe that the Delta variant is running it's course like viruses do and will virtually be gone and minimalized by Labor Day at the latest.

[WuDrWu]

Here is a chart of the Covid hospitalizations current through Aug 7th:

Honest question......what are we looking at here, in this chart? What is it saying?

[Kung Wu]

Honest question......what are we looking at here, in this chart? What is it saying?

Total new hospitalizations in 100 key counties by week.

It's a sample of US trends. It reflects 10% of the population, so statistcially the US in total will have a very close overlay.

Edit: on my stupid phone traveling, so difficult to post ... here is a link:

https://gis.cdc.gov/grasp/COVIDNet/C...l#virusTypeDiv

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What other illnesses are there where you vaccinate AFTER you’ve been infected?

Uhhhhhmmmm. (strawman, appeal to ignorance)

CoronaviruZ scienceZ 101: The coronavirus immune response is historically non-durable. Dr. Fauci said this Day 1 of the pandemic and it's no more true today than it was then.

VACCINATIONS AFTER ASYMPTOMATIC AND MILD INFECTION IS RECOMMENDED BY ALL TOP INFECTIOUS DISEASE SPECIALISTS IN THE WORLD. THE RESULTING IMMUNE STATE IS SUPERIOR/STRONGER THAN PRIOR TO IMMUNIZATION.

I hope that is clear enough for you.

[C0|dB|00ded]

Honest question......what are we looking at here, in this chart? What is it saying?

No kidding. That might be the most unclear graph I've ever read on the subject.

Here's an easier one:



Current hospitalizations: 72,876 (30/100,000k)

https://carlsonschool.umn.edu/mili-misrc-covid19-tracking-project

[Kung Wu]

51% of people in the US fully vaxed.
10% more with at least one vax.
10% more with prior symptomatic infection.

That's 71% with antibodies and doesnt include asymptomatic prior infections or additional 2% unresolved cases.