Coronavirus 2019-nCoV

[revenge_of_shocka_khan]

https://www.kake.com/story/42672390/...om-coronavirus



Well lookie here... might both Greg Williams AND the Covid-denying Shockernetters be getting a win? Great news but I'm dubious. No way does a middle-aged man spend "days in the hospital fighting for his life" and then leave a week later in "perfect health" lol. I guess it could happen. Allahu akbar!

P.S. Do I have to do everything in this thread? Settling bets against myself... I am literally a picture of honesty and integrity!

Question:
Do they call him the hitman because he can't walk by a buffet without 'hitting' it? I kinda doubt he is one of those guys that works out and keeps themselves in shape, but I'm curious.

One time we went to Caracas and used the family bodyguard. He was, indeed, a hitman. Lifted weights 3--4 times a week, ran 6 miles a day (and could run less than 7 minute miles so his 10K was around 40 minutes).and packed heat in his SUV (If you're interested I can tell you that story offline). I'm wondering how a middle-aged DJ would compare to this guy when he was middle aged......

[MikeKennedyRulZ]

[MikeKennedyRulZ]

More "data" and "science" fails:

https://www.foxnews.com/health/oregons-youngest-coronavirus-death-didnt-die-from-virus-report

A family is pushing for answers after new testing verified their son, originally deemed Oregon's youngest coronavirus fatality, was in fact not infected with the virus, according to a media outlet.

[wufan]

https://abcnews.go.com/Health/live-u...82392#73191813

Coronavirus news: Fauci details lesser-publicized side effects of COVID-19

"A disturbing number of individuals" were found to have heart inflammation.



Dr. Fauci continues to pierce the shroud of bullshit like no other. There will be a Covid Syndrome.

Avoid this bug at all costs. We know nothing about the long-term consequences.

There are lots of good articles on why this is silly. I’m not surprised that you again have no idea what you’re talking about.

[wufan]

Question:
Do they call him the hitman because he can't walk by a buffet without 'hitting' it? I kinda doubt he is one of those guys that works out and keeps themselves in shape, but I'm curious.

One time we went to Caracas and used the family bodyguard. He was, indeed, a hitman. Lifted weights 3--4 times a week, ran 6 miles a day (and could run less than 7 minute miles so his 10K was around 40 minutes).and packed heat in his SUV (If you're interested I can tell you that story offline). I'm wondering how a middle-aged DJ would compare to this guy when he was middle aged......

The family bodyguard. What the duck is that?

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There are lots of good articles on why this is silly. I’m not surprised that you again have no idea what you’re talking about.

Why what is silly? The myocarditis, or the Covid Syndrome?

Please sir, tear away my veil of ignorance leaving me intellectually naked and confused so that I may thirst for the true wisdom only you can provide.

[wufan]

Why what is silly? The myocarditis, or the Covid Syndrome?

Please sir, tear away my veil of ignorance leaving me intellectually naked and confused so that I may thirst for the true wisdom only you can provide.

Acute myocarditis is common across a plurality of viral infections. This has been known for decades. It’s not particularly dangerous and it goes away. There is no more incidence of of myocarditis in Covid-19 than in any other coronavirus.

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Acute myocarditis is common across a plurality of viral infections. This has been known for decades. It’s not particularly dangerous and it goes away. There is no more incidence of of myocarditis in Covid-19 than in any other coronavirus.

You are partially correct.

https://www.eatthis.com/dr-fauci-new-covid-side-effect/

"There's another thing that we're learning that we need to keep an eye on," Fauci said. "There have been some studies, one from Germany and now a more recent one from the US, on cardiovascular effects, even on people without symptoms who've recovered biologically. When you do MRIs [magnetic resonance imaging] on their hearts, you sometimes see a degree of inflammation that might even be asymptomatic. Does that lead to arrhythmias and cardiomyopathy? We don't know."

"Two new studies from Germany paint a sobering picture of the toll that Covid-19 takes on the heart, raising the specter of long-term damage after people recover, even if their illness was not severe enough to require hospitalization," reports Stat News. "One study examined the cardiac MRIs of 100 people who had recovered from Covid-19 and compared them to heart images from 100 people who were similar but not infected with the virus. Their average age was 49 and two-thirds of the patients had recovered at home. More than two months later, infected patients were more likely to have troubling cardiac signs than people in the control group: 78 patients showed structural changes to their hearts, 76 had evidence of a biomarker signaling cardiac injury typically found after a heart attack, and 60 had signs of inflammation. These were relatively young, healthy patients who fell ill in the spring…"

"The other study, which analyzed autopsy results from 39 people who died early in the pandemic and whose average age was 85, found high levels of the virus in the hearts of 24 patients," according to Stat. "We see signs of viral replication in those that are heavily infected," Dirk Westermann, a cardiologist at the University Heart and Vascular Centre in Hamburg, said in an interview. "We don't know the long-term consequences of the changes in gene expression yet. I know from other diseases that it's obviously not good to have that increased level of inflammation."

"Another study, published this month, looked at 26 Ohio State athletes who experienced Covid-19 with mild or no symptoms and detected evidence of possible myocarditis in five of them and lesser abnormalities in nine more," reports the New York Times. "The condition poses a heightened risk to those whose physical activity puts stress on the heart: Even before the pandemic, myocarditis was a leading cause of death in young, otherwise healthy athletes."

https://www.theatlantic.com/health/a...rditis/616420/

Autopsies have found traces of the coronavirus’s genetic material in the heart, and actual viral particles within the heart’s muscle cells. Experiments have found that SARS-CoV-2 can destroy lab-grown versions of those cells. Severalstudieshave now shown that roughly 10 to 30 percent of hospitalized COVID-19 patients had high levels of troponin—a protein released into the blood when the heart’s muscle cells are damaged. Such patients are more likely to die than others with no signs of heart injury.

But how often does that happen? In the early months of the pandemic, it seemed clear that the risk of heart injuries was “directly proportional to the severity of the illness,” says Neel Chokshi, a sports cardiologist at the University of Pennsylvania. But in July, a team led by Valentina Puntmann at University Hospital Frankfurt, in Germany, complicated that picture. The researchers showed that 78 percent of people who had recovered from COVID-19 (including many who had never been hospitalized) still had some kind of heart abnormality that was detectable on MRI scans two months later. About 60 percent still had signs of myocarditis.

The worry is that COVID-19 is doing whatever it’s doing at scale. The original SARS epidemic of 2003 infected only 8,000 people, killed slightly fewer than 800, and was over in three months; its impact on the heart was “lost in the historical bin of the scientific literature,” says Checchia. SARS-CoV-2, by contrast, has infected at least 31 million people and killed at least 960,000. Its effects are thousands of times more obvious than its predecessor’s. Even if it’s no worse than any other viral illness, its sheer scope means that a tiny risk of severe long-term problems would still translate to a lot of failing hearts.

Some long-haulers have been diagnosed with dysautonomia—a group of disorders that disrupt involuntary bodily functions, including heartbeats (which can become inexplicably fast) and blood pressure (which can suddenly crash). But people who have lingering heart problems after viral myocarditis don’t usually experience the chronic symptoms that long-haulers do, and they typically have measurable changes to their hearts that long-haulers don’t. “There may be a connection, but it hasn’t been proved,” Kontorovich said.

Therefore your statement sir was a false equivalent until proven otherwise.

Even if SARS-CoV-2 were a carbon copy of the run of the mill influenza virus (which it's clearly not), it would still levy a heavy toll on society because it. is. novel.

My guidance (and the leading experts on the issue) remains the same: DO NOT get infected by El Corona if at all possible. Stop the spread!

CB and the GOOD Dr. Fauci have spoken.

Goodnight!

[wufan]

You are partially correct.

https://www.eatthis.com/dr-fauci-new-covid-side-effect/

https://www.theatlantic.com/health/a...rditis/616420/









Therefore your statement sir was a false equivalent until proven otherwise.

Even if SARS-CoV-2 were a carbon copy of the run of the mill influenza virus (which it's clearly not), it would still levy a heavy toll on society because it. is. novel.

My guidance (and the leading experts on the issue) remains the same: DO NOT get infected by El Corona if at all possible. Stop the spread!

CB and the GOOD Dr. Fauci have spoken.

Goodnight!

Nope

[SB Shock]

I can't get a shot for COVID,

Sure you can. Volunteer for one of the trials. Do it for all the first responders.

[wichshock65]

Sure you can. Volunteer for one of the trials. Do it for all the first responders.

He sure can. I did.

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Nope

And furthermore; why would you think tackling complex problems with a massive quantity of undefined variables using assumptions would be a good idea? You call yourself a scientist right? It's inherent in any logically trained mind that you NEVER assume anything. You'll assume that Covid is a Nothingburger-typical-virus, yet you won't assume that a world renown infectious disease specialist with over 50 years experience has a valid reason to be concerned with Covid-related cardiac complications? And you won't assume that Dr. Fauci is fully aware of every single one of the 20 known viruses known to cause myocarditis? Don't be like the naked emperor my friend. It's never too late to come to Jesus.

P.S. The folks you cause yourself to be associated with by your statements are of the lowest order of rationality.

[revenge_of_shocka_khan]

The family bodyguard. What the duck is that?

Exactly what it means. Caracas, even during the early Maduro days was a very dangerous place. The socialistas down there like to 'help themselves'. Kidnapping is rampant, people get murdered for their cell phones and there is a lot of property crime.

My g/f's family served at cabinet (and sub-cabinet) levels of government (and those were not the ones who were doctors and lawyers), so they were at particular risk. A bodyguard is very handy down in those parts to ensure that you don't become a crime victim.

BTW, and I forgot to mention this, he was also a black-belt martial artist.

[atlwsu]

I went there for business. My contacts sent me a picture of the cab driver and told me mot to get in anyone else's taxi. The did the same thing every morning from the Hotel.

Very dangerous place

[revenge_of_shocka_khan]

I went there for business. My contacts sent me a picture of the cab driver and told me mot to get in anyone else's taxi. The did the same thing every morning from the Hotel.

Very dangerous place

Absolutely. One of her brothers had a weekend home in Puerto la Cruz. He was going to go there and spend the weekend, but he had something come up at the last minute and his trip was delayed. He had a staff of Colombians he had just hired (IDK what happened to the old staff) who watched over the place, but when he got there, he found out that someone had tied them up and ransacked the place (probably would have been waiting for him.

He had to fire the Colombians because he couldn't tell whether this was a staged incident (and the Colombians were in on it) or not.

Also note that kidnapping is a cottage industry in Colombia, but at least they have a stable government and all the cocaine smuggling has switched routes to go through Venezuela (and the Venezuelan military is in on it as well).