2016-17 Bracketology

[ShockdaWorld]

I like moving up. I know nothing about what SMU has coming back in that 10 spot. That second round matchup would be a big time test though. I've watched a couple of UCLA games this year, and they look to be the real deal. As of right now, I'm not sure why they wouldn't be a one seed.

Edit: Oh wait, B12-2 gets two one seeds. I almost forgot that built in metric.

[molly jabali]

I like moving up. I know nothing about what SMU has coming back in that 10 spot. That second round matchup would be a big time test though. I've watched a couple of UCLA games this year, and they look to be the real deal. As of right now, I'm not sure why they wouldn't be a one seed.

Edit: Oh wait, B12-2 gets two one seeds. I almost forgot that built in metric.

I watched them play Nebraska...they are not that good.

PLUS....Alford will coach like Alford.

[ShockdaWorld]

I watched them play Nebraska...they are not that good.

PLUS....Alford will coach like Alford.

I didn't see that game. That Lonzo Ball kid looks pretty salty though.

[asiseeit]

With a win Saturday we could possibly run the table and end
up with only two losses. 3-4 seed? I doubt it. I think we will
have three losses and a five seed.

[ShockdaWorld]

With a win Saturday we could possibly run the table and end
up with only two losses. 3-4 seed? I doubt it. I think we will
have three losses and a five seed.

Oh you've done it now. Time for the "Too Big For Our Britches" committee to pick you apart.

[Shocker1976]

With a win Saturday we could possibly run the table and end
up with only two losses. 3-4 seed? I doubt it. I think we will
have three losses and a five seed.

While I did not predict a 5 seed, my pre-season prediction is a 30+ win and 3 loss season for the Shockers. Thanks for joining me on the bandwagon!

[Jamar Howard 4 President]

With a win Saturday we could possibly run the table and end
up with only two losses. 3-4 seed? I doubt it. I think we will
have three losses and a five seed.

Oh you've done it now. Time for the "Too Big For Our Britches" committee to pick you apart.

32-2 = 4 seed (3 more likely than a 5)
31-3 = 6 seed (5 more likely than a 7)

Just my opinion of what would happen in each case. Fever, no need to jump me.

[Cdizzle]

I think a 4 seed at 32-2 might be under-selling a little. Maybe even a 3 seed. People would hate on the schedule. But people would also have a tough time getting around 27 straight wins; against 2 losses to T25 teams.

It would certainly be a nice problem to have.

[SHOCKvalue]

With a win Saturday we could possibly run the table and end
up with only two losses. 3-4 seed? I doubt it. I think we will
have three losses and a five seed.

Well, from a purely logical perspective you are correct; however, when one applies the NCAA Selection Committee's "Eff-U-WSU" adjustment factor we're probably an eight or a nine.

[SHOCKvalue]

That little subscript number after each team's name is their NCAA seed. Any anomalies that stand out?

[T.VuOP]

That little subscript number after each team's name is their NCAA seed. Any anomalies that stand out?

Projected W-L 26-9?

[Cdizzle]

Projected W-L 26-9?

That's the 2015-2016 Record. Most stats sites just refer to it as the 2016 season for simplicity. This is the 2017 season, according to kenPom.

[Jamar Howard 4 President]

I think a 4 seed at 32-2 might be under-selling a little. Maybe even a 3 seed. People would hate on the schedule. But people would also have a tough time getting around 27 straight wins; against 2 losses to T25 teams.

It would certainly be a nice problem to have.

2014 SFA: 31-2, RPI=52
26 game winning streak
losses to #41 & #243
No good wins
#12 seed

2012 Murray St: 30-1, RPI=22
1 loss to #168
2 top 50 wins, 4 total top 100 wins
#6 seed

2011 Utah St: 30-3, RPI=15
losses to #11 & #31 in non-con, loss @#145 in con
5 top 100 wins (4 in the 80s/90s, but 1 @#42)
#12 seed

2006 George Washington: 26-2, RPI=37
losses to #32 & #66
7 top 100 wins (2 of which were top 50)
#8 seed

Obviously, none of these comparisons to 2017 WSU are perfect, but I think they point out how little respect 1-3 loss teams receive when they played a weak schedule. 2006 GW is especially interesting as their 7 top 100, 2 top 50 wins could potentially be an exact match with how WSU finishes this year, depending how things play out.

[Jamar Howard 4 President]

Any anomalies that stand out?

It helps if you look at selection sunday ranks, not final.
2016 - KenPom Rank 20, KenPom Equiv Seed 5, Actual Seed 11
2015 - KenPom Rank 15, KenPom Equiv Seed 4, Actual Seed 7
2014 - KenPom Rank 7, KenPom Equiv Seed 2, Actual Seed 1
2013 - KenPom Rank 30, KenPom Equiv Seed 8, Actual Seed 9
2012 - KenPom Rank 8, KenPom Equiv Seed 2, Actual Seed 5
2011 - KenPom Rank 53, KenPom Equiv Seed NIT, Actual Seed NIT
2006 - KenPom Rank 36, KenPom Equiv Seed 9, Actual Seed 7

-6, -3, +1, -1, -3, Wash, +2

Yes, KenPom has historically liked WSU a bit more than the committee, but only by a smidgeon. Last year was the one huge disagreement. Showing only the last 2 years definitely feels like cherry picking.

[SHOCKvalue]

Projected W-L 26-9?

That's the 2015-2016 Record. Most stats sites just refer to it as the 2016 season for simplicity. This is the 2017 season, according to kenPom.

Yep, sorry about that. Didn't cross my mind that the content might not make sense to non-kenpom-ers.