He has the guys balling. I think he has done a great job so far. Time will tell. I still say he gets the job if he wins 75 percent of the games.
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I am in no way an advocate of an immediate rush to judgement hire...8 games in is not a test. However, those who are adamant in dismissing his chances run several risks, not the least is overlooking a potential diamond. Why he has not pursued a top job before now is a fair question, but perhaps he has had a comfort feel.
Steve Fisher was 44 when Michigan fired Bill Frieder, and was in no rush to find a lead job.... look what a good career would have been wasted if he was not given the chance.
Just saying.... keep an open mind!
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To what extent did HCIB play a role with recruiting under fHCGM?
Was he an integral part of recruiting or am I off base with this thought?
I want what’s best for the program and hope that whoever we get is from the Marshall coaching tree.
I recognize this may not be the case.
Go Shocks!“Losers Average Losers.” ― Paul Tudor Jones
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Originally posted by DUShock View PostTo what extent did HCIB play a role with recruiting under fHCGM?
Was he an integral part of recruiting or am I off base with this thought?
I want what’s best for the program and hope that whoever we get is from the Marshall coaching tree.
I recognize this may not be the case.
Go Shocks!
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Originally posted by WuDrWu View Post
This comes up occasionally, but anyone that doesn't think Eddie was a really good head coach doesn't understand the game. It certainly was a different time and place when he took the reigns in the mid 80s. And yes, Eddie cut his teeth here and was learning on the job how to be a head coach. And he had an awful lot of Carolina blue blood coursing through his veins. He needed some time at the helm before he got here for sure. And the expectations for community leadership and fund raising were nothing compared to today. Eddie also never embraced the culture here, and that did not endear him to the fan base (not that he particularly cared). But if he had been a coach elsewhere first, he would have been even better here. Still, 3 seasons, autobid, at large, NIT. Not bad. Now, leaving behind Cohen? Muy mal.
if I remember correctly, he was so worried about image at wsu, that he removed black uniforms. I don't think he was prejudice but he said black was an image of bad guys. Can you imagine someone saying that today?
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Originally posted by Jim Ratt View PostFor the sake of continuity and stability in the BBall program, and to facilitate recruiting, Isaac Brown should be offered a multi-season contract NOW. This also takes into account the difficulty of suddenly taking over the program in this Covid-19 year; it wouldn't be fair to not give him more time to prove himself. Also, we should start looking to find space for Etienne's number over Koch Arena.
that and you never know what coaches could become available between now and April. What if you court some fragile relationships, say a sampson/houston relationship was not to his liking? That's just an example though.
Wait it out and see all aspects. Recruiting, player development, assistant retention, etc...
But so far so good in my opinion.
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If Coach Brown could sign us a couple good bigs in the 6'-10 range, keep all or almost all of this years squad together for next year...finish in the Top-3 (AAC) this year while getting an at-large birth...then man...I think you gotta give him the reigns. Cause that future looks bright!!!FINAL FOURS:
1965, 2013
NCAA Tournament:
1964, 1965, 1976, 1981, 1985, 1987, 1988, 2006, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018, 2021
NIT Champs - 1 (2011)
AP Poll History of Wichita St:
Number of Times Ranked: 157
Number of Times Ranked #1: 1
Number of Times Top 5: 32 (Most Recent - 2017)
Number of Times Top 10: 73 (Most Recent - 2013, 2014, 2015, 2017)
Highest Recent AP Ranking:
#3 - Dec. 2017
#2 ~ March 2014
Highest Recent Coaches Poll Ranking:
#2 ~ March 2014
Finished 2013 Season #4
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Originally posted by Atxshoxfan View Post
He was a good coach as long as he didn't have to play with his own recruits. I believe that everywhere he went he started at the top of the slide and went down fast. He recruited really nice kids that were mediocre ballers.
if I remember correctly, he was so worried about image at wsu, that he removed black uniforms. I don't think he was prejudice but he said black was an image of bad guys. Can you imagine someone saying that today?
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Ironic how one of the hottest Mid Major coaches is a 45 year old from Winthrop. Doesn’t have FHCGM’s resume at the same point in their careers, but he will be on some final lists of teams needing a coach at the end of the year.
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Brown's been coaching in a lot of good programs, and that was before he had the opportunity to join GGG's staff. It's why GGG picked him. He then showed he has some proven contacts just based upon who he picked up as an assistant coach (a Sweet 16 head coach).
I have a feeling he's going to show he can really coach this year, no matter where he ends up in the Fall of 2021. 6 years is a long time to learn under a coaching genius (I actually was going to say General, but...)Last edited by ShockingButTrue; January 4, 2021, 03:58 AM.
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Originally posted by Atxshoxfan View Post
He was a good coach as long as he didn't have to play with his own recruits. I believe that everywhere he went he started at the top of the slide and went down fast. He recruited really nice kids that were mediocre ballers.
if I remember correctly, he was so worried about image at wsu, that he removed black uniforms. I don't think he was prejudice but he said black was an image of bad guys. Can you imagine someone saying that today?
Did he recruit Paul Gruffovich?
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Fogler spoke at my Fraternity dinner meeting before the 1986-87 season and he said one reason he took the WSU job because of prior Wichita recruits that they tried to get at UNC but failed. Greg Dreiling, Antoine Carr and Aubrey Sherrod come to mind.
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Originally posted by molly jabali View PostWait...” serious consideration “ if he won the league or elite 8”??? Seriously?????? Something 3G did once? With no real center?
pretty gracious of you...
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Originally posted by AZ Shocker View PostIf Coach Brown could sign us a couple good bigs in the 6'-10 range, keep all or almost all of this years squad together for next year...finish in the Top-3 (AAC) this year while getting an at-large birth...then man...I think you gotta give him the reigns. Cause that future looks bright!!!
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Yep.FINAL FOURS:
1965, 2013
NCAA Tournament:
1964, 1965, 1976, 1981, 1985, 1987, 1988, 2006, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018, 2021
NIT Champs - 1 (2011)
AP Poll History of Wichita St:
Number of Times Ranked: 157
Number of Times Ranked #1: 1
Number of Times Top 5: 32 (Most Recent - 2017)
Number of Times Top 10: 73 (Most Recent - 2013, 2014, 2015, 2017)
Highest Recent AP Ranking:
#3 - Dec. 2017
#2 ~ March 2014
Highest Recent Coaches Poll Ranking:
#2 ~ March 2014
Finished 2013 Season #4
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