American Athletic Conference

[Shocker1976]

Rothstein seems like he's pretty credible guy but yeah, he may be brewing stories more so than they are naturally occurring. I admit, whenever there's something put out in the media dealing with out potential conference change, they've got me like a dog chasing the laser light.

I am with you; IMO UCONN joining the NBE flies in the face of what the NBE is all about - basketball centric catholic universities

[WheatShock]

As for a 20 game round robin, I wonder if that would be beneficial to a conference or not? Less OOC games they would need to schedule, but those conferences actually want a couple of games against some weaker competition. Also, with a 20 game conference schedule every team would be accepting the loss of 1 extra home game a year I would think.

A 20 game schedule helps as long as the conference remains strong. I would bet that most schools would drop one non conference home and home in favor of keeping their buy games.

[SHOXJOCK]

As much as I wish we could get out of the MVC, unfortunately the cards just don't appear to be in our favor.

So very sad but true.

[WSUwatcher]

I am with you; IMO UCONN joining the NBE flies in the face of what the NBE is all about - basketball centric catholic universities

I don't see it either, 1976 -- the NBE just reformulated itself not that long ago for the specific purpose of excluding public schools. It's one thing to accept Butler, which is not Catholic but still (very) small and private; it would be another altogether to reverse completely and add a state university, especially one with a football program.

[WuShock Reaper]

"Cinderella is getting written out of the March Madness story" - Washington Post

By ADAM KILGORE
Friday, February 24, 2017 - 10:47 AM

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/sports/wp/2017/02/24/cinderella-is-getting-written-out-of-the-march-madness-story/?utm_term=.365c2e094e7b

"College basketball undergoes constant evolution, a form of Darwinism that can turn well-established fixtures into long-forgotten relics. The four-year superstar went the way of the dodo. The notion of geographical alignment of conferences vanished. Playing the Final Four in an actual basketball gym grew quaint. If current trends continue apace, a quintessential slice of college hoops may join the endangered list: the mid-major at-large NCAA tournament berth.

'I 100 percent think mid-major teams getting at-large berths is not only diminishing, but — what is it when we have a creature that’s about to die?” Southern Illinois Coach Barry Hinson said. “It’s on life support. It’s getting ready to be an extinct species.'..."

[Topshock]

"Cinderella is getting written out of the March Madness story" - Washington Post

By ADAM KILGORE
Friday, February 24, 2017 - 10:47 AM

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/sports/wp/2017/02/24/cinderella-is-getting-written-out-of-the-march-madness-story/?utm_term=.365c2e094e7b

"College basketball undergoes constant evolution, a form of Darwinism that can turn well-established fixtures into long-forgotten relics. The four-year superstar went the way of the dodo. The notion of geographical alignment of conferences vanished. Playing the Final Four in an actual basketball gym grew quaint. If current trends continue apace, a quintessential slice of college hoops may join the endangered list: the mid-major at-large NCAA tournament berth.

'I 100 percent think mid-major teams getting at-large berths is not only diminishing, but — what is it when we have a creature that’s about to die?” Southern Illinois Coach Barry Hinson said. “It’s on life support. It’s getting ready to be an extinct species.'..."

Do you all still like Barry after he basically throws WSU under the bus with his Middle Tennessee comment??

[Topshock]

"Hinson, whose Salukis scrimmaged Middle Tennessee State before the season, said MTSU was the best team they’ve played this season other than Louisville. “It would be a travesty” if the Blue Raiders, who are 24-4 overall, 14-1 in Conference USA, don’t make the field, Hinson said. But he also said he expected they would be left out if they do not win the C-USA tournament."

The best team they have played? What did they lose the scrimmage by 75. Seem to me he should be lobbying for conference teams rather than MTSU. However from what I have heard from Southern Illinois fans this is just Barry being Barry.

[ShockerPrez]

"Hinson, whose Salukis scrimmaged Middle Tennessee State before the season, said MTSU was the best team they’ve played this season other than Louisville. “It would be a travesty” if the Blue Raiders, who are 24-4 overall, 14-1 in Conference USA, don’t make the field, Hinson said. But he also said he expected they would be left out if they do not win the C-USA tournament."

The best team they have played? What did they lose the scrimmage by 75. Seem to me he should be lobbying for conference teams rather than MTSU. However from what I have heard from Southern Illinois fans this is just Barry being Barry.

Doesn't bother me. I think he was making the point with them because he knows we will probably make the tourney regardless.

[Aargh]

"Hinson, whose Salukis scrimmaged Middle Tennessee State before the season, said MTSU was the best team they’ve played this season other than Louisville. “It would be a travesty” if the Blue Raiders, who are 24-4 overall, 14-1 in Conference USA, don’t make the field, Hinson said. But he also said he expected they would be left out if they do not win the C-USA tournament."

The best team they have played? What did they lose the scrimmage by 75. Seem to me he should be lobbying for conference teams rather than MTSU. However from what I have heard from Southern Illinois fans this is just Barry being Barry.

Maybe Barry just wanted to poke the bear before the bear takes on the Bears that fired him a few years back?

[wuhog]

“The rich get richer and the poor get poorer,” Hinson said. “Until you find a different evaluation process or expand the tournament, you’re gonna have this every stinking year.”

Expanding the tournament has been tried. It only gave more opportunities for shitty P5 conference teams.

[im4wsu]

Originally Posted by Topshock

"Hinson, whose Salukis scrimmaged Middle Tennessee State before the season, said MTSU was the best team they’ve played this season other than Louisville. “It would be a travesty” if the Blue Raiders, who are 24-4 overall, 14-1 in Conference USA, don’t make the field, Hinson said. But he also said he expected they would be left out if they do not win the C-USA tournament."

The best team they have played? What did they lose the scrimmage by 75. Seem to me he should be lobbying for conference teams rather than MTSU. However from what I have heard from Southern Illinois fans this is just Barry being Barry.

Doesn't bother me. I think he was making the point with them because he knows we will probably make the tourney regardless.

Maybe he didn't use WSU as his example , or Illinois State, so as to not give any additional credence to it being okay to leave them out.

[ripemupshocks]

More inline with this thread:

At a recent game, Elgin ran into Hinson, the Southern Illinois coach. “What do we need to do as a conference?” Elgin asked him. “The issue with our league right now isn’t our league,” Hinson said. “The issue with our league is realignment and who we’ve lost.”

1. Guess it just doesn't occur to Hinson that maybe the reason the good teams want to leave the MVC is because they're tired of being dragged down by all the putrid, embarrassingly lousy, dead-on-arrival teams like SIU, every f*****g season.

2. Maybe the good teams that go to the NCAA Tournament every season are sick and tired of having to support the dead fish teams in this conference that contribute nothing financially or otherwise to the MVC.

3. Maybe if the MVC had a Commissioner that had the balls to tell all the butt dragging University Presidents and AD's in in this dog conference; spend some f*****g money on your basketball programs or go join the Mid-Eastern Conference, and tell your turd coaches to schedule their RPI's up, or FIRE THEIR ASS; instead of asking one of those turd coaches, "What do we need to do as a conference?".

MAYBE THEN THE BREAD WINNERS IN THIS CONFERENCE WOULDN'T WANT TO LEAVE!

[Shock Top]

(Face)Palm has 16-11 (6-9) TCU in over WSU....

What absolute hourse$#!+. The Shox would destroy TCU and I guarantee the they wouldn't finish 17-11 with their schedule.

[ShockerFever]

(Face)Palm has 16-11 (6-9) TCU in over WSU....

What absolute hourse$#!+. The Shox would destroy TCU and I guarantee the they wouldn't finish 17-11 with their schedule.

Palm isn't even worth following or looking at anymore. Seriously.

[ShockerPrez]

(Face)Palm has 16-11 (6-9) TCU in over WSU....

What absolute hourse$#!+. The Shox would destroy TCU and I guarantee the they wouldn't finish 17-11 with their schedule.

The broadcast also said Lubardi gives TCU an at large bid if they beat WV....