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  • RPI numbers from the last 3 years for the Valley and the AAC. These are the 3 years with no membership changes in either league. Obviously you cannot simply subtract WSU's RPI from the MVC average, or add it to the AAC average and expect anything meaningful as it ignores a season's worth of weight to the team RPIs; but it's fun to look at nonetheless.

    Team 2017 2016 2015 Avg Team 2017 2016 2015 Avg
    BU 220 304 280 268 UCF 58 219 259 179
    DU 316 322 260 299 Cincy 14 55 36 35
    UE 191 92 83 122 UConn 119 33 82 78
    ISUr 39 118 53 70 ECU 214 22 220 152
    ISUb 234 170 177 194 Houston 62 90 252 135
    LUC 183 238 87 169 Memphis 116 140 89 115
    MSU 212 236 237 228 USF 317 230 277 275
    UNI 162 66 11 80 SMU 15 14 18 16
    SIU 147 136 274 186 Temple 130 69 33 77
    WSU 29 41 12 27 Tulane 295 232 214 247
    Tulsa 133 70 50 84
    Avg 173 172 147 164 Avg 134 107 139 127
    No WSU 189 187 162 180 Plus WSU 125 101 129 118

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    • From a marketing standpoint, The AAC has really milked the WSU to the AAC for all they can.
      They have had a lot of free marketing starting with the MVC tournament. if they really want to finish it off right,
      they will make their decision official next week. They will get more buzz Final Four weekend than if they wait till after
      the Final four is over.

      It also makes sense to bring WSU on board this fall when WSU is hot. WSU would bring more press and money this fall than waiting a year.
      Why give the MVC the potential publicity and money from a possible WSU Final Four run when the AAC could take away the money
      and the press coverage?

      Just my take. What do you think. I'll hang up and listen.

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      • Originally posted by calfan View Post
        From a marketing standpoint, The AAC has really milked the WSU to the AAC for all they can.
        They have had a lot of free marketing starting with the MVC tournament. if they really want to finish it off right,
        they will make their decision official next week. They will get more buzz Final Four weekend than if they wait till after
        the Final four is over.

        It also makes sense to bring WSU on board this fall when WSU is hot. WSU would bring more press and money this fall than waiting a year.
        Why give the MVC the potential publicity and money from a possible WSU Final Four run when the AAC could take away the money
        and the press coverage?

        Just my take. What do you think. I'll hang up and listen.
        Sounds good to me.

        One thing that occurred to me, and it is a bit of conspiracy theory, is that the university presidents might be hesitant to bring in a program that will be favored to win the conference in it's first year as a member. Some might see that as embarrassing, and wanting to wait until 2018-19 is the earliest option. It's a short-sighted concern, but they are human.

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        • Originally posted by Bluzrover View Post
          Don't get too comfortable, the natives will turn on you in an instant.
          No kidding. He might get sideswiped by this guy:

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          • Originally posted by RoyalShock View Post
            Sounds good to me.

            One thing that occurred to me, and it is a bit of conspiracy theory, is that the university presidents might be hesitant to bring in a program that will be favored to win the conference in it's first year as a member. Some might see that as embarrassing, and wanting to wait until 2018-19 is the earliest option. It's a short-sighted concern, but they are human.
            I imagine the increase in ticket sales and television viewers resulting from a preseason top 10 team would be enough to sway them.
            "In God we trust, all others must bring data." - W. Edwards Deming

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            • Originally posted by Kel Varnsen View Post
              I imagine the increase in ticket sales and television viewers resulting from a preseason top 10 team would be enough to sway them.
              I would hope so.

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              • Originally posted by Cdizzle View Post
                RPI numbers from the last 3 years for the Valley and the AAC. These are the 3 years with no membership changes in either league. Obviously you cannot simply subtract WSU's RPI from the MVC average, or add it to the AAC average and expect anything meaningful as it ignores a season's worth of weight to the team RPIs; but it's fun to look at nonetheless.

                Team 2017 2016 2015 Avg Team 2017 2016 2015 Avg
                BU 220 304 280 268 UCF 58 219 259 179
                DU 316 322 260 299 Cincy 14 55 36 35
                UE 191 92 83 122 UConn 119 33 82 78
                ISUr 39 118 53 70 ECU 214 22 220 152
                ISUb 234 170 177 194 Houston 62 90 252 135
                LUC 183 238 87 169 Memphis 116 140 89 115
                MSU 212 236 237 228 USF 317 230 277 275
                UNI 162 66 11 80 SMU 15 14 18 16
                SIU 147 136 274 186 Temple 130 69 33 77
                WSU 29 41 12 27 Tulane 295 232 214 247
                Tulsa 133 70 50 84
                Avg 173 172 147 164 Avg 134 107 139 127
                No WSU 189 187 162 180 Plus WSU 125 101 129 118
                What I like most about this is the fact that this season, the AAC had the 7th best RPI as a conference trailing the SEC and PAC 12 who are 5th and 6th respectively. I'm sure by adding WSU to the AAC the conference RPI would rise significantly. Whether the AAC moves into 5th or 6th (perhaps higher) remains to be seen because, as you've pointed out, every year the RPI fluctuates. Some of the trends look great (Houston, Cincy, UCF, SMU) and some are troublesome (UConn, ECU, USF, Temple, Tulane). But what we know about the MVC schools are far more worriesome so I like the fact we'll be in a conference of like-minded schools. This is going to be fun.

                BTW, Sully's report from last night in which he quoted Katz's article is trickling out to other AAC markets. Just saw it picked up on the Cincy newspaper's website. This is soon to be announced.

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                • Just an opinion piece I found. Not my opinion of course.

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                  • Hm...
                    "In God we trust, all others must bring data." - W. Edwards Deming

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                    • I don't think I've seen this posted yet, sorry if it has.

                      The Selection Committee slapped the AAC around. Only two teams got invited, only two deserved it.

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                      • I like they guy that mapped Wichita State in South Dakota.

                        I'm going to assume that it is for hyperbolic purposes, and not ignorance.
                        "When life hands you lemons, make lemonade." Better have some sugar and water too, or else your lemonade will suck!

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                        • Originally posted by Kel Varnsen View Post
                          Yeah, that's an odd tweet isn't it? But interesting that our attendance tops those three.

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                          • Don't judge the UConn fanbase on NoEscalators. He's just there to talk trash.

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                            • Originally posted by Bluzrover View Post
                              Yeah, that's an odd tweet isn't it? But interesting that our attendance tops those three.
                              That is Paul's nick name for Steve (who he retweeted) nothing to read into that.

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                              • Originally posted by Bluzrover View Post
                                Yeah, that's an odd tweet isn't it? But interesting that our attendance tops those three.
                                Where is this Steve guy getting his numbers from? Those attendance numbers are wayyyy off, especially SMU's.

                                CORRECTION: I guess most of those numbers are correct, but SMU's is definitely off.

                                2nd CORRECTION: SMU's attendance average was 6900, according to the AAC website. The rest looks legit.

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