American Athletic Conference

[DUShock]

So how does one go about getting elfin replaced? Aka fired

Member school Presidents. I don't know if it is a simple majority, super majority, or unanimous vote.

[Jtaylor]

http://www.news-leader.com/story/news/2016/03/20/16-million-try-25-million-new-report-reveals-true-scope-msu-athletics-spending/81608818/

[shockrah]

People named Doug seem to suck (present company excluded).

[ShockerPrez]

MVC needs to look for another quality team or 2 if we are gonna have 3 or 4 not participating in trying to get better.

[ShoxRoxMySox]

Unfortunately, I didn't have the time to read the entire piece or research anything. But, for anyone that has, is there a link to increasing pressure to pay athletes and the new reports showing "soaring" costs for athletics in some cases? Just wondered if this was the NCAA building part of its future argument, but like I said I know next to nothing about this topic.

[rrshock]

http://www.news-leader.com/story/new...ding/81608818/

The new data will show that college athletics are a drain on many schools. I look for some schools to do major cuts or switch leagues in order to be able to afford to be competitive "at their level".

[IdahoShocker]

Another interesting take-away from the article, WSU has the lowest subsidy % of the athletic budget for any school. By a wide margin. Being far from an expert, I think this means WSU tends to make more profit from it's sports and gets a higher % of private funding. For example the article says MSU is paying $6M a year on bonds for the JQH Arena, compared to our large private donors for CKA.

[giskard]

Another interesting take-away from the article, WSU has the lowest subsidy % of the athletic budget for any school. By a wide margin. Being far from an expert, I think this means WSU tends to make more profit from it's sports and gets a higher % of private funding. For example the article says MSU is paying $6M a year on bonds for the JQH Arena, compared to our large private donors for CKA.

Also, we don't play football. Some of that could change if we start football.

[IdahoShocker]

Also, we don't play football. Some of that could change if we start football.

Duh, I forgot that. Great point. So that means our budget is within $1M annually of ISUr, SIU, and MSU without Football which is the most expensive sport. So if we did add football our budget would likely be at least 25% more than anyone else. Not to start a new tangent, but I'm not convinced all the private donors would support football as strongly as they have basketball.

[Jhook89]

Would really like to see us get SFA.... I think they have potential with a bigger athletic budget to become a good program. Recruiting Texas alone is a hotbed of recruits.

[ShockTalk]

Also, we don't play football. Some of that could change if we start football.

Are you saying it could change the other way if others stop football?

[giskard]

Are you saying it could change the other way if others stop football?

If they dropped football, their total expenditures would go down and it is likely the subsidy percentage would drop. At the MVFC level, football doesn't tend to make a profit.

[SHOCKvalue]

After adjusting for equivalency - neutralizing FB vs no-FB, and (in the apparent case of MSU) deducting out debt service (which is 100% a sunk cost liability, NOT an asset, in the context of athletics support) WSU has, and has had for some time, the largest athletics budget in the MVC, and it is really not even close.

In MBB alone, our budget is roughly 175% of number two Bradley, and is close to 250-300% the MVC average. Marshall makes more in his salary alone than something like 2/3rds or 3/4ths the MVC MBB budgets.

If we restarted football our overall budget would grow another $10-$15M, based on the context of comments that have been made by Bardo (FBS football at the MWC or AAC level).

[WheatShock]

NCAA Financial Data

WSU is second to VCU among non football playing schools in spending.

[WheatShock]

WSU is at #105 on the list