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  • C0|dB|00ded
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    Originally posted by SB Shock View Post

    LOL, cold is now getting his news from far left websites. Who would have thought that?

    BTW, Ukraine attacked and heavily damage Russia heavy cruiser Moskvu yesterday. Another admiral to have a untimely death.
    Wtf?




    Commentary: Ukraine’s neo-Nazi problem (3/19/18)

    As Ukraine’s struggle against Russia and its proxies continues, Kiev must also contend with a growing problem behind the front lines: far-right vigilantes who are willing to use intimidation and even violence to advance their agendas, and who often do so with the tacit approval of law enforcement agencies.

    A January 28 demonstration, in Kiev, by 600 members of the so-called “National Militia,” a newly-formed ultranationalist group that vows “to use force to establish order,” illustrates this threat. While the group’s Kiev launch was peaceful, National Militia members in balaclavas stormed a city council meeting in the central Ukrainian town of Cherkasy the following day, skirmishing with deputies and forcing them to pass a new budget.

    Many of the National Militia's members come from the Azov movement, one of the 30-odd privately-funded “volunteer battalions” that, in the early days of the war, helped the regular army to defend Ukrainian territory against Russia's separatist proxies. Although Azov uses Nazi-era symbolism and recruits neo-Nazis into its ranks, a recent article in Foreign Affairs downplayed any risks the group might pose, pointing out that, like other volunteer militias, Azov has been “reined in” through its integration into Ukraine’s armed forces. While it’s true that private militias no longer rule the battlefront, it’s the home front that Kiev needs to worry about now.

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  • SB Shock
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    LOL, cold is now getting his news from far left websites. Who would have thought that?

    BTW, Ukraine attacked and heavily damage Russia heavy cruiser Moskvu yesterday. Another admiral to have a untimely death.

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  • C0|dB|00ded
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    Five years after the Maidan uprising, anti-Semitism and fascist-inflected ultranationalism are rampant.


    Five years after the Maidan uprising, anti-Semitism and fascist-inflected ultranationalism are rampant.

    Absolutely chilling article from 2019.
    Was anybody aware that Pootin' was actually telling the truth about a Nazi movement growing in Ukraine?

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  • N Crestway
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    Bucha now presenting evidence of systematic killing over a period of weeks. One Bucha resident stated that where he lived the Russians were focused on all males under the age of 50.

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  • pinstripers
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    The horrible stories coming from the Ukraine are no surprise, rapes, wanton murder, destruction for destruction's sake. terrible. Very similar to the Japs in Manilla during WWII, or or the Russians marching to Berlin from the East, same time period.

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  • C0|dB|00ded
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    Originally posted by N Crestway View Post

    Hillary believes preventing Putin from attending the G-20 conference will be an effective sanction. Arresting Putin at the G-20 conference might be effective. however.
    If Pootin' goes to the G-20, everybody else (besides China) better pack up and go home or I will have lost all faith in humanity.

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  • atlwsu
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    Have any of you looked at the AP daily photographs from Ukraine, they are devastating. I don't think we should depend on government aid alone.

    One today showed a 57 year old woman on her knees in the rubble, with a burned-out tank behind her, crying over the loss of her husband. A second of a 6 year old standing next to th crude grave of his mother in what looked like the yard to their home. She had died of starvation.
    Last edited by atlwsu; April 5, 2022, 03:58 PM.

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  • N Crestway
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    Originally posted by ShockingButTrue View Post

    Hillary believes preventing Putin from attending the G-20 conference will be an effective sanction. Arresting Putin at the G-20 conference might be effective. however.

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  • Kung Wu
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    Good point.

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  • SB Shock
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    Originally posted by Kung Wu View Post
    Everybody who thinks Putin will eventually be tried for a war crime, put your hand in the air.

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    nobody?
    It doesn't actually matter if he is or isn't. This is another way of ratcheting up pressure on Russia.

    1. It makes it easier for European politicians to sell to their people "you are going to pay higher prices because we are reducing our energy dependence on Russia"

    2 To say to those countries (e.g. India) trying to walk the fine line between Russia and the West - are you really going to side with "War Criminal"?

    3. To the Russian Oligarchs - Putin going to bring you all down, and there will be no chance of normalization.

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  • SB Shock
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    Originally posted by wufan View Post

    If that’s what you got from my statement then I can’t help you.
    I am not asking for help. You are either "equivocate" or you are just somebody who feels they have to weigh in on everything even if they really have nothing to add but "war is horrible" - no duh!

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  • ShockerPrez
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    Originally posted by ABC View Post
    I think the bar for "atrocities" is a lot higher for the country being invaded. For example I have no problem with Ukrainian citizens poisoning invading Russian soldiers. None.
    Can civilians fighting foreign invaders on their home soil even be held accountable for war crimes?

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  • wufan
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    Originally posted by SB Shock View Post

    Yes you did. You tried to say Russia action are just a part of the horror of ware and then implied that Ukraine action somehow justified it.
    If that’s what you got from my statement then I can’t help you.

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  • ShockingButTrue
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    Originally posted by Kung Wu View Post
    Everybody who thinks Putin will eventually be tried for a war crime, put your hand in the air.

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    nobody?

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