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  • ShockerPrez
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    Originally posted by SB Shock View Post

    Not really. NATO doesn't want to annihilate Russia. NATO didn't want to do before the invasion, or during, and they still won't after this is all over.

    In fact the U.S., EU and NATO actually have tried to do everything that they could to integrate Russia into the world. NATO/EU still are trying to get Russia back on track with the world.
    Normal people know this. The problem is Putin does not. Or at least, his angle to power and wealth is pretending and exploiting to the Russian people the opposite view. Not sure which it is. But one thing is for sure: He thought he had a porn star dong, but what he really has is a 3 incher with a lifetime supply of Viagra (nukes).

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  • C0|dB|00ded
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    Originally posted by wufan View Post
    I don’t believe that NATO has a place in a post Soviet Russian world, nor do I believe that the US has a place in a Eurocentric alliance.
    Lulwut?

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  • SB Shock
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    Originally posted by wufan View Post

    Whether or not you think bringing Ukraine into NATO at any point in the last 10 years was the correct move, to do so now would be to directly threaten Russia with annihilation.
    Not really. NATO doesn't want to annihilate Russia. NATO didn't want to do before the invasion, or during, and they still won't after this is all over.

    In fact the U.S., EU and NATO actually have tried to do everything that they could to integrate Russia into the world. NATO/EU still are trying to get Russia back on track with the world.

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  • wufan
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    Originally posted by N Crestway View Post

    You can pretty much thank Angela Merkel for the Ukraine being turned down in 2008. She led the campaign to block it and then France got on board with Germany. While Germany tries to claim that their relationship with Russia was due to morality and guilt about WWII, the real reason is more likely economic self interest. Admittedly Merkel does have a screw loose but for most Germans it was probably about money and complacency.

    Following Zelenskyy's recent internet speech to the German Bundestag, there was apparently no discussion about the Ukraine just silence and later some little Bundestag member birthday celebrations. One Bundestag member described the session as one of the most disgusting things he had ever witnessed in the German parliament.
    Whether or not you think bringing Ukraine into NATO at any point in the last 10 years was the correct move, to do so now would be to directly threaten Russia with annihilation.

    I don’t believe that NATO has a place in a post Soviet Russian world, nor do I believe that the US has a place in a Eurocentric alliance.

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  • N Crestway
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    Originally posted by C0|dB|00ded View Post
    So it is now understood that Pootin' was just playin' around. But what did he gain by a half-measure invasion that had a 20% casualty rate?

    His sanctions are surely not lifted. Could this have just been a probe to see how the world reacts? Had we not been unified, he would have sent the "real" forces and taken Ukraine and then planned his next invasion?

    I'd say the U.S. and NATO did a good job of fulfilling their mission. It's just too bad that Ukraine wasn't already a member.
    You can pretty much thank Angela Merkel for the Ukraine being turned down in 2008. She led the campaign to block it and then France got on board with Germany. While Germany tries to claim that their relationship with Russia was due to morality and guilt about WWII, the real reason is more likely economic self interest. Admittedly Merkel does have a screw loose but for most Germans it was probably about money and complacency.

    Following Zelenskyy's recent internet speech to the German Bundestag, there was apparently no discussion about the Ukraine just silence and later some little Bundestag member birthday celebrations. One Bundestag member described the session as one of the most disgusting things he had ever witnessed in the German parliament.

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  • SB Shock
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    7 buses full of Russian soldiers have shown up in Belarusus with radiation poisoning. They were digging in the forest around Chernobyl where the ground is radioactive.

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  • MikeKennedyRulZ
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    Vlady being Vlady...



    Ukraine warned its negotiators not to eat, drink or even touch anything as they headed into talks with Russia in Istanbul on Tuesday, following allegations that Russian oligarch Roman Abramovich and others may have been poisoned during previous talks.

    “I advise anyone going for negotiations with Russia not to eat or drink anything, preferably avoid touching surfaces,” said Ukrainian Foreign Minister Dmytro Kuleba in an interview on national television channel, Ukrayina 24.

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  • C0|dB|00ded
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    So it is now understood that Pootin' was just playin' around. But what did he gain by a half-measure invasion that had a 20% casualty rate?

    His sanctions are surely not lifted. Could this have just been a probe to see how the world reacts? Had we not been unified, he would have sent the "real" forces and taken Ukraine and then planned his next invasion?

    I'd say the U.S. and NATO did a good job of fulfilling their mission. It's just too bad that Ukraine wasn't already a member.

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  • C0|dB|00ded
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    Originally posted by SB Shock View Post

    Solar sails are supposed to be extremely fast in the vacuum of outer space, maybe they could make a "Solar Sail Ponderous-Sonic Missile".

    That way no propellant would need to be used.
    What happens when it reenters the atmosphere? Too much friction to maintain velocity.

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  • N Crestway
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    Originally posted by ShockerPrez View Post

    A lot of it is due to the fact that the people around Biden are pure leftist ideologues as well. They don't really care or know about things not having to do with changing this country into their twisted utopia. Their focus is trans rights, painting their political opponents as racist and censoring opposing speech.

    Regardless of how wreckless those with TDS thought Trump was, he had competent people who knew how to deal with these things, and Putin saw that.

    Putin sees a freak show in the cabinet now and he also sees unserious people. That's a fact! Men claiming to be women and cheering it on is a ****ing clown show!! Fact. Having unserious people hired based on how many intersectional boxes they check instead of competence, does not make us stronger. It makes hard cold dictators who give zero shits about their citizens lives believe that we are a country of clowns. When our VP sounds like a 3rd grader trying to give a book report on a book she didn't read, when trying to articulate policy and sound serious, we look like a clown show. When our president is an angry old man who should be screaming at orderlies for his Ensure, we look like a clown show. Fat, dumb, stupid clowns, not willing or able to make hard choices and deal in a world of reality.
    Have to assume then that Joe Biden is the voice of sanity in this administration...scary thought. Regarding foreign policy, however, he is probably Antony Blinken's hand puppet which is sort of a comforting thought...or at least I think it is right now.

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  • N Crestway
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    Originally posted by wufan View Post

    This appears to be the largest number of casualties in this amount of time in a war since WWII, correct?
    Nothing quite on the scale of WWII. Hard to say what the casualties really were during the Chinese nationalist-Chinese communist civil war that ended in 1949. Have to assume they were pretty high.

    On another note, Biden and NATO had better get in all the equipment promised plus Mig-29s from Poland, Romania, etc. because there will be another big Russian offensive when the weather improves and the ground dries in May.

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  • ShockerPrez
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    Originally posted by 1972Shocker View Post

    Don't forfet about perhap the biggest one. Climate change and the desire to be fossil fuel free ASAP regardless of the consequences. Not only do our enemies see these things they actively and surreptitiously encourage and cultivate these movements.
    Thank you. Yes, the climate is the biggest loser in this conflict, according to this administration.

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  • 1972Shocker
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    Originally posted by ShockerPrez View Post

    A lot of it is due to the fact that the people around Biden are pure leftist ideologues as well. They don't really care or know about things not having to do with changing this country into their twisted utopia. Their focus is trans rights, painting their political opponents as racist and censoring opposing speech.
    Don't forfet about perhap the biggest one. Climate change and the desire to be fossil fuel free ASAP regardless of the consequences. Not only do our enemies see these things they actively and surreptitiously encourage and cultivate these movements.

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  • ShockerPrez
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    Originally posted by wufan View Post

    TBF, there are only a handful of people that could be President and make the situation this bad.
    A lot of it is due to the fact that the people around Biden are pure leftist ideologues as well. They don't really care or know about things not having to do with changing this country into their twisted utopia. Their focus is trans rights, painting their political opponents as racist and censoring opposing speech.

    Regardless of how wreckless those with TDS thought Trump was, he had competent people who knew how to deal with these things, and Putin saw that.

    Putin sees a freak show in the cabinet now and he also sees unserious people. That's a fact! Men claiming to be women and cheering it on is a ****ing clown show!! Fact. Having unserious people hired based on how many intersectional boxes they check instead of competence, does not make us stronger. It makes hard cold dictators who give zero shits about their citizens lives believe that we are a country of clowns. When our VP sounds like a 3rd grader trying to give a book report on a book she didn't read, when trying to articulate policy and sound serious, we look like a clown show. When our president is an angry old man who should be screaming at orderlies for his Ensure, we look like a clown show. Fat, dumb, stupid clowns, not willing or able to make hard choices and deal in a world of reality.

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  • wufan
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    Originally posted by pinstripers View Post
    We wouldn’t be here if Trump was in office. You know it. I know it. The world knows it. TDS is a hella thing
    TBF, there are only a handful of people that could be President and make the situation this bad.

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