Russia-Ukraine War

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https://www.newsweek.com/europe-preparations-world-war-3-baltic-states-dragons-teeth-air-defenses-1993930

Europe Quietly Prepares for World War III

With warnings swirling over a possible war with Russia in a matter of years, NATO's European members have already started laying the groundwork for defenses, should Russian troops set foot on alliance soil.

"Russia is preparing for a war with the West," Bruno Kahl, the head of Germany's foreign intelligence service, said in late November.

But it's not likely to be a large-scale attack into NATO territory, the intelligence chief warned. Moscow could opt for a limited incursion or upping its hybrid warfare tactics to probe the alliance's conviction, Kahl said.

NATO is trying to prepare for both scenarios: an all-out war, and less obvious techniques designed to undermine stability in the alliance's member countries.

Let's go NATO!

Why do people like Putin exist? Does he just not get laid enough? His country has more natural resources and freakin' land space than most others. They aren't religious zealots. They are a fairly modern nation (unlike places like N. Korea).

Maybe it's some kind of parasitic worm in his head.

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https://thehill.com/opinion/internat...aine-conflict/

With Trump taking over the US military, it’s time to finally change course on Ukraine

Trump needs to show how a strong American president, unlike Obama and Biden, responds to threats and bullying. In addition to warning Putin against further escalation, he should tell him to start withdrawing from Ukraine, send North Korean forces home, and demand that China start sending no-strings financial assistance to help Ukraine rebuild its country.

If Putin refuses to follow these measures, Trump should tell him that he will remove all restrictions on Ukraine’s use of Western weapons except for civilian structures and historical and cultural sites, such as the Kremlin’s iconic onion domes. He should also threaten to increase the supply of long-range missiles to Ukraine until Russia stops bombing Ukrainian cities and infrastructure, and say he will work with NATO to accelerate Ukraine’s admission to the alliance. Further, Trump should also significantly increase sanctions on China for helping Russia conduct its aggression.

Finally, he should tell Putin and Xi Jinping that since Russia’s 10-year invasion of Ukraine has clearly emboldened Beijing to step up its own aggression against Taiwan, he is declaring formally and officially, with the full consent and approval of Congress, that America will unconditionally defend Taiwan against any form of aggression.

Yup! Talk about onions.

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So what you're saying is, Biden's years of indecisive action has resulted in many, many unnecessary deaths?

I'm saying that I'm happy with his decision NOW! It might have been a little soon to allow strikes within Russia from the onset. I have no idea what the perfect course of action is (hindsight 20/20), but it certainly does not include bending to the wannabe dictator's whims. That has almost always ended in more attempted conquests historically.

"Biden" is far from perfect. But he's been consistent. And sane!

#StandWithUkraine

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Nope no confusion, we all know a life long troll who has gotten banded from every board he posts on is gonna troll.

Banned and banded! These are hurtful topics!

[jdmee]

You confusing Shocker sports and NIL w/ political talk? Speaking of that, have we downgraded to intramurals yet?

Super excited today to read about long-range missiles hitting their targets in Russia! Love the 4D chess move that Biden is committing prior to Trump taking over. They are either working together, or Biden is tying Trump's Putin-loving hands. Win. Win. Win!

Nope no confusion, we all know a life long troll who has gotten banded from every board he posts on is gonna troll.

[Kung Wu]

Super excited today to read about long-range missiles hitting their targets in Russia! Love the 4D chess move that Biden is committing prior to Trump taking over.

So what you're saying is, Biden's years of indecisive action has resulted in many, many unnecessary deaths?

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Cold's self served ban lasted about as long as a liberal celebs have lived "out of the country"

You confusing Shocker sports and NIL w/ political talk? Speaking of that, have we downgraded to intramurals yet?

Super excited today to read about long-range missiles hitting their targets in Russia! Love the 4D chess move that Biden is committing prior to Trump taking over. They are either working together, or Biden is tying Trump's Putin-loving hands. Win. Win. Win!

[ShockerFever]

Cold's self served ban lasted about as long as a liberal celebs have lived "out of the country"

That’s so funny because the analogy is perfect and it played out to a tee lol

[jdmee]

Cold's self served ban lasted about as long as a liberal celebs have lived "out of the country"

[Atxshoxfan]

Our resident genius has spoken. Now go out and think like him, you mindless twits.

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https://www.cnn.com/world/live-news/ukraine-russia-war-11-18-24/index.html

US allows Ukraine to use long-range missile strikes into Russia


Excellent! "Sleepy Joe" not so sleepy here.

Preventing Ukraine from hitting the military bases Russia is attacking from is absurd.

Russia is NOT defending its sovereignty, it is invading a neighboring country.

UKRAINE is defending its sovereignty and is 100% in its rights to send a volley of missiles straight up the ass of Russia's military WHEREVER they may reside.

But... but... but... Trumper whine what??!! You don't mind Israel shooting inside Iran, but Ukraine can't???

Get your heads out of your collective hypocritical asses for a second and use your God-given brain.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cdrdmkxy7xmo

SMMFH...

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https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/ukraine-russia-war-news-trump-putin-zelensky-ceasefire-b2643577.html

Ukraine-Russia latest: Musk ‘joins Trump’s Zelensky call’ as Putin hails ‘courageous’ US election win


Elon Musk promised to support Volodymyr Zelensky with his Starlink satellites

Elon Musk reportedly jumped on Donald Trump’s first call with Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelensky.

The move potentially reveals how high Trump values the Tesla billionaire and foreshadows a possible role in his administration.

Axios reported that the president-elect told Zelensky he will support Ukraine, but didn’t go into details on a 25 minute phonecall.

Musk also weighed in to say he will continue supporting Ukraine through his Starlink satellites - that have become pivotal to Ukraine forces communications on the frontline.

Musk had previously mocked Zelensky on social media for his attempts to fundraise for his nation’s war effort.

It came as Russian president Vladimir Putin congratulated Trump on winning the US election and said Moscow was ready for dialogue with him.

In his first remarks since Mr Trump’s win, Mr Putin said the president-elect had acted “like a real man” during an assassination attempt in Pennsylvania in July.

Mr Trump’s win has caused concern in Ukraine, where the Russian forces have made swift advances of late, over fears that he would curtail US support for Kyiv.

Really, really, REALLY hoping that Trump does the right thing here. This is a place where you flex America's muscle setting an example for the entire world. Elon can set up a Tesla factory in Russia or something... anything. Just please don't let those free people twist in the wind.

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North Korea allegedly sending troops to fight in Ukraine/Western Russia

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Putin has time and 3 to 1 manpower advantage

Not if NATO is directly involved. Of course that will not happen. In fact I'm not sure if NATO will adequately defend the Baltic states...Germany will have one brigade in Lithuania by 2027 which is sort of laughable.Technical superiority can offset Russia's manpower advantage to some degree, however.

We may also see a slow, measured escalation on the part of an "alliance of the willing" which would initially include support troops as Macron proposed this year, of course his coalition is on the way out. If the Christian Democrats take power in Germany next year, Germany may be more willing to lend this kind of support.

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Good. Looks like they don’t need any more help. Send them a bill for the tax payer money we sent them. [/Q
And while we are at it lets send a bill to Israel , Kuwait the Saudi Peninsula Japan Taiwan and South Korea. This is the kind of forward thinking that we need.

Not really.

It's a geopolitical privilege for us to be able to park our weaponry in other people's countries. We fight our battles on foreign lands because of it.

Can anybody in here complete a little imagination exercise on what Europe and the Middle-East would look like if we had never opened a single overseas base?

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/06/us-military-bases-around-the-world-119321/

"the United States still maintains nearly 800 military bases in more than 70 countries and territories abroad—from giant “Little Americas” to small radar facilities. Britain, France and Russia, by contrast, have about 30 foreign bases combined."

Think about this number for a moment. Now imagine if we never had had any of them. What does the world look like? Does America even exist?

We are the richest nation in the world - by far. We have profited greatly by maintaining some semblance of world order so that we can build our widgets and sell them.

Trump complaining about countries paying their "fair share" is so simplistic it isn't even amusing. But it resonates with the average voter, because they are thinking in 1 dimensional grocery store economics. Let's go to the customer service counter and get a refund on our overripe tomatoes.

When people say "voters are stupid", it isn't that wrong. Can any of us in here even begin to imagine the geopolitical strategies our county has been engaged in for the last 80 years? Clearly it's been to accumulate base positions around the globe.

So now this NYC "RE developer"/reality show host comes into the White House, barely reads his briefings, and he's going to go collect on all the "debt" these foreign countries owe us.

Simpleton.

Maybe they'll call our bluff and ask us to kindly leave their borders. Then watch what happens next...