Russia-Ukraine War

[ShockerPrez]

EVs are fine, but they are still dependent on fossil fuels. While you don't have to buy gas, your electric bill might tick up a shade, no? I don't know how much.

And while there may be a few charging stations where you can charge for free now, just wait until those businesses start getting those bills with dozens of EVs sucking on their power. It won't be free for long. And the increased demand for coal to go to power plants will go up, along with your electric rates (which you are using more of). Especially when Biden ends coal (remember he told that girl that).

So, the moral of this story is that the government will bend you over either way eventually. Whether you get an EV or not.

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How does the working poor afford an electric vehicle? Even a used one? They don't. Electric vehicles sound like a good way to wean society off of crude oil, but in reality, is probably the most regressive, unaffordable tax ever conceived. A used electric car is $35-$50,000. A decent, dependable, older, gas burning used car is $5,000. No way the working poor can pay an additional $30,000 upfront to get to a car to deliver them to a low paying job. And they never make up the cost difference in the lessend cost of gas.

https://www.carmax.com/cars/electric-vehicles

Give it some time brother. Electric vehicle prices will fall right in line with traditional vehicles once the Big 3 start cranking them out.

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https://twitter.com/DanODonnellShow/...hiMrnm-aw&s=19

"No ability for the oil industry to continue to drill... PeRiOd!!!11"

Must have been one of his senior moments when he said that lol. It doesn't even make sense.

https://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/de...illion%20b%2Fd.

In the February STEO, we forecast that U.S. crude oil production will increase to 12.0 million b/d in 2022, up 760,000 b/d from 2021. We forecast that crude oil production in the United States will rise by 630,000 b/d in 2023 to average 12.6 million b/d. We expect more than 80% of that crude oil production growth to come from the Lower 48 states (L48), which does not include production from Alaska and the Federal Offshore Gulf of Mexico.

And just in case you'd like to know what production was like during Trump's reign:

U.S. crude oil production grew 11% in 2019, surpassing 12 million barrels per day. Annual U.S. crude oil production reached another record level at 12.23 million barrels per day (b/d) in 2019, 1.24 million b/d, or 11%, more than 2018 levels. The 2019 growth rate was down from a 17% growth rate in 2018.

Annual average U.S. crude oil production reached 9.3 million barrels per day (b/d) in 2017, an increase of 464,000 b/d from 2016 levels after declining by 551,000 b/d in 2016.

The quicker you guys opt out of politics (like I have) the happier your lives will be. Both sides lie.

Now, if you want to discuss economic/governmental philosophies... then we can have a ball. And if we did that, I doubt there would be much disagreement between any of us. The reason I continue to perturb, is because I am WILLFULLY coming from a place "above/beyond the bullshit". Or at least I'm making every effort to speak from that place.

[MoValley John]

I'd arm every man, woman, and child with Stinger missiles so Russia cannot gain air superiority. Then it's guerilla warfare time. A horrible existence, but it will assure the Russians of paying a price they could never conceive of paying.

Then I would HEAVILY bolster NATO forces inside countries surrounding Russia. This, along with the sanctions, is about all we can do short of actively engaging. Then we wait...

As far as the energy crisis is concerned... high gas prices will convince a lot of folk to move on over to electric. That isn't such a bad thing. Once you drive an electric vehicle, it's hard to go back. They need to get cheaper though. Perhaps some creative leases or incentives can take the sting out for the average American. I like the idea of cooperative ownership programs as well. Americans will innovate in these times and come out better for it.

How does the working poor afford an electric vehicle? Even a used one? They don't. Electric vehicles sound like a good way to wean society off of crude oil, but in reality, is probably the most regressive, unaffordable tax ever conceived. A used electric car is $35-$50,000. A decent, dependable, older, gas burning used car is $5,000. No way the working poor can pay an additional $30,000 upfront to get to a car to deliver them to a low paying job. And they never make up the cost difference in the lessend cost of gas.

https://www.carmax.com/cars/electric-vehicles

[wichshock65]

https://www.newsweek.com/have-biden-...uction-1686104



Just another viewpoint to keep the conversation honest.

There's no question that a Biden Administration is going to be less liberal with oil exploration leases as the Republicans are FIRMLY in the back pocket of big oil. But... there's only so much the D's can do as market forces will eventually prevail. As I mentioned just recently, soaring oil futures WILL stimulate more domestic extraction efforts. You can bank on it just like you'd bank on the sun rising tomorrow. The question is, how long will we be involved in the conflict? If the shooting stops tomorrow, this all becomes a nothingburger as far as domestic supply is concerned. In fact, there's nothing wrong with our supply right now, the speculators are merely bidding up the price of contracts with the expectation that we will have a supply crunch in the near future.

https://www.energy.gov/fecm/strategic-petroleum-reserve-9

Here's some info on our SPR.

https://twitter.com/DanODonnellShow/status/1501202578033438720?t=JCB1MozwwAQM3hiMrnm-aw&s=19

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I don't find EV's political at all, I find them EXCITING! Get out and rent one at your earliest convenience so you can see what I'm talking about. Peace and quiet combined with power like you've never driven outside of an exotic sports car. What's not to like? Yes, the price. But that will find its market equilibrium in time.

Forgot to mention the clean air. Imagine walking down a city block with no exhaust fumes - anywhere. Who doesn't like fresh air!

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This one 'looks' pretty good, but 'looks' can be deceiving...

Subsidies are a market bastardization, that is for sure.

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I just towed a trailer with my truck two thousand miles round trip, three separate times (6K miles in total) since mid-December, to an area where the average low temperature in the winter is somewhere in the single digits, if that. Tell me how that looks with an electric truck?

Not good. As I said, EV's are not for everyone in 2022.

I could see a transition where most families will have one EV vehicle and one traditional. In the end, I think 90% of terrestrial travel will be electric. Then comes air.

[MikeKennedyRulZ]

Yeah, the "SUV" is sucky looking.

The "get up" as you say... is otherworldly. Overpriced for the budget-conscious consumer, but you absolutely get the latest tech on earth - in a car - for your dollars spent.

The market will soon be flooded with EV options, so stay tuned! Ford's Mustang Mach E is getting rave reviews. It's a bit ugly though IMO.



Ford F-150 Lightning pre-orders are all sold out.

The Mach E is plain and ugly. I've seen a bunch of those here is So Cal. Bought my V8 Tundra this year before the did away with the V8 and added a hybrid. EV's have a loooong way to go before becoming mainstream with affordability and range being the two biggest issues I see.

[SHOCKvalue]

As far as the energy crisis is concerned... high gas prices will convince a lot of folk to move on over to electric. That isn't such a bad thing. Once you drive an electric vehicle, it's hard to go back. They need to get cheaper though. Perhaps some creative leases or incentives can take the sting out for the average American. I like the idea of cooperative ownership programs as well. Americans will innovate in these times and come out better for it.

The only thing that happens when we move over to EV's will be that we move from dealing with global bad actors who specialize in fossil fuels to global bad actors who deal in natural materials associated with battery production.

I just towed a trailer with my truck two thousand miles round trip, three separate times (6K miles in total) since mid-December, to an area where the average low temperature in the winter is somewhere in the single digits, if that. Tell me how that looks with an electric truck?

Until the infrastructure and "refueling" capabilities of EV's make an industrial revolution-like jump in scaling, EV's will remain an option only for people who live their entire lives in urban areas, or who only travel between urban areas via the interstate.

[WstateU]

Yeah, the "SUV" is sucky looking.

The "get up" as you say... is otherworldly. Overpriced for the budget-conscious consumer, but you absolutely get the latest tech on earth - in a car - for your dollars spent.

The market will soon be flooded with EV options, so stay tuned! Ford's Mustang Mach E is getting rave reviews. It's a bit ugly though IMO.



Ford F-150 Lightning pre-orders are all sold out.

This one 'looks' pretty good, but 'looks' can be deceiving...

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I have driven one of the Model S and was impressed by the get up. Not impressed with much else and wouldn't spend the money. Too gimmicky. Wife and I looked at the smaller SUV a few months ago. Looked cheap inside and not impressed.

Yeah, the "SUV" is sucky looking.

The "get up" as you say... is otherworldly. Overpriced for the budget-conscious consumer, but you absolutely get the latest tech on earth - in a car - for your dollars spent.

The market will soon be flooded with EV options, so stay tuned! Ford's Mustang Mach E is getting rave reviews. It's a bit ugly though IMO.



Ford F-150 Lightning pre-orders are all sold out.

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https://www.newsweek.com/have-biden-administration-policies-reduced-us-oil-production-1686104

Republicans argue that President Joe Biden's temporary freeze on new drilling leases and other initiatives centered on clean energy have hurt the country's ability to produce its own oil and gas.

But administration officials and experts say that's not exactly the case.

"We've already seen domestic production ramp up," Alan Zibel, a research director at Public Citizen, told Newsweek.

Zibel noted that production "fell off a cliff" in the spring of 2020 due to the coronavirus pandemic but has been gradually coming back since, under both former president Donald Trump and Biden.

Natural gas marketed production increased 2.2 percent in 2021, according to the U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA). While crude oil production fell slightly in December 2021 compared to November 2021, the EIA has predicted U.S. production of crude oil will rise to average 12 million barrels per day in 2022 and then to a record-high of 13 million barrels per day in 2023.

"It's simply not true that my administration or policies are holding back domestic energy production," Biden told reporters on Tuesday. "That's simply not true."

Just another viewpoint to keep the conversation honest.

There's no question that a Biden Administration is going to be less liberal with oil exploration leases as the Republicans are FIRMLY in the back pocket of big oil. But... there's only so much the D's can do as market forces will eventually prevail. As I mentioned just recently, soaring oil futures WILL stimulate more domestic extraction efforts. You can bank on it just like you'd bank on the sun rising tomorrow. The question is, how long will we be involved in the conflict? If the shooting stops tomorrow, this all becomes a nothingburger as far as domestic supply is concerned. In fact, there's nothing wrong with our supply right now, the speculators are merely bidding up the price of contracts with the expectation that we will have a supply crunch in the near future.

https://www.energy.gov/fecm/strategic-petroleum-reserve-9

Here's some info on our SPR.

[MikeKennedyRulZ]

Have you ever driven a Tesla?

https://turo.com/us/en/search?countr...%2070532985000

Go rent one and take the ol' lady out for a spin. She'll be thrilled I assure you.

I have driven one of the Model S and was impressed by the get up. Not impressed with much else and wouldn't spend the money. Too gimmicky. Wife and I looked at the smaller SUV a few months ago. Looked cheap inside and not impressed.

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You can tell this guy was a Republican.

And just like a Dim does, he diverts attention from the insane gas prices and deflects to electric cars. Definitely a sound and timely solution.

Now that covid is over, this guy is gonna go counter argument anywhere that’ll fulfill his need for self-gratifying trolling.

Have you ever driven a Tesla?

https://turo.com/us/en/search?country=US&defaultZoomLevel=11&delivery=false&endDate=03%2F14%2F2022&endTime=10%3A00&isMapSearch=false&itemsPerPage=200&latitude=37.68717609999999&location=wichita%2Cks&locationType=CITY&longitude=-97.33005300000002&region=KS&sortType=RELEVANCE&startDate=03%2F11%2F2022&startTime=10%3A00&useDefaultMaximumDistance=true&utm_campaign=gs%3Are%3Alt%3Abroad%3Awd%3Ageo-city%201734040947&utm_medium=cpc&utm_source=google&utm_term=gs%3Are%3Alt%3Abroad%3Awd%3Ageo-city%3Awichita%20kwd-299752354052%20337973271257%2070532985000

Go rent one and take the ol' lady out for a spin. She'll be thrilled I assure you.