Jordan Cyphers

[shockball]

duh

[wufan]

Whose leaving the program in order to create the 3 openings because I only know about 1 scholarship?

I think Coy's scholarship is available.
The succeeding article in the Ute paper said that their basketball program had oversigned for next year so it looks like the writing was on the wall for Jordan. His first year of eligibility would be our first year without Murray and Hatch. Maybe we could use a redshirt junior.

Coy's scholarship is going to EO.

[1979Shocker]

Whose leaving the program in order to create the 3 openings because I only know about 1 scholarship?

I think Coy's scholarship is available.
The succeeding article in the Ute paper said that their basketball program had oversigned for next year so it looks like the writing was on the wall for Jordan. His first year of eligibility would be our first year without Murray and Hatch. Maybe we could use a redshirt junior.

Coy's scholarship is going to EO.

Actually, EO will get Hannah's scholarship. If Coy had remained on the team, all 13 scholarships would have been used up this year.

With Hannah graduating this year, that frees up his scholarship, which EO now gets. Since Coy chose not to remain on the team, that frees up another scholarship, which can be used for a PG or any other position the coaches feel they need.

[SFL]

Whose leaving the program in order to create the 3 openings because I only know about 1 scholarship?

I think Coy's scholarship is available.
The succeeding article in the Ute paper said that their basketball program had oversigned for next year so it looks like the writing was on the wall for Jordan. His first year of eligibility would be our first year without Murray and Hatch. Maybe we could use a redshirt junior.

Coy's scholarship is going to EO.

Actually, EO will get Hannah's scholarship. If Coy had remained on the team, all 13 scholarships would have been used up this year.

With Hannah graduating this year, that frees up his scholarship, which EO now gets. Since Coy chose not to remain on the team, that frees up another scholarship, which can be used for a PG or any other position the coaches feel they need.

Dildo! Dido! Ditto!

[WSUShokker]

If we can get him as a walkon great...if he is worth opening a scholarship for then thats fine as well....

Let me ask...if he is released from Utah is he free to play a pick up game with say some local kids at a local college? Does that violate NCAA rules at all if they are not organized practices persay? Maybe it would give us an idea what this kid can bring to the table and what hes learned over the last 2 years if anything....

I was initially one that thought we would have EO and a Juco point guard as the new blood...I am starting to lean toward at least one and maybe 2 spots opening up....Is Marshall out recruiting for next year or for 2012? Or both.

why has there be no news of player post season interviews/evaluations yet? Is it because Marshall is not ready to do them yet or has he just been busy striking while the iron is hot?

[ShockTalk]

If we can get him as a walkon great...if he is worth opening a scholarship for then thats fine as well....

Let me ask...if he is released from Utah is he free to play a pick up game with say some local kids at a local college? Does that violate NCAA rules at all if they are not organized practices persay? Maybe it would give us an idea what this kid can bring to the table and what hes learned over the last 2 years if anything....

I was initially one that thought we would have EO and a Juco point guard as the new blood...I am starting to lean toward at least one and maybe 2 spots opening up....Is Marshall out recruiting for next year or for 2012? Or both.

why has there be no news of player post season interviews/evaluations yet? Is it because Marshall is not ready to do them yet or has he just been busy striking while the iron is hot?

If he has done them already, my guess, for the next couple of weeks anyway, is that we will not likely here about anyone leaving until a replacement is in place.

[WSUShokker]

If we can get him as a walkon great...if he is worth opening a scholarship for then thats fine as well....

Let me ask...if he is released from Utah is he free to play a pick up game with say some local kids at a local college? Does that violate NCAA rules at all if they are not organized practices persay? Maybe it would give us an idea what this kid can bring to the table and what hes learned over the last 2 years if anything....

I was initially one that thought we would have EO and a Juco point guard as the new blood...I am starting to lean toward at least one and maybe 2 spots opening up....Is Marshall out recruiting for next year or for 2012? Or both.

why has there be no news of player post season interviews/evaluations yet? Is it because Marshall is not ready to do them yet or has he just been busy striking while the iron is hot?

If he has done them already, my guess, for the next couple of weeks anyway, is that we will not likely here about anyone leaving until a replacement is in place.

If he has done them and someone was out...I think the news would be out by now..the player certainly wouldnt keep his mouth shut so that we could announce his replacement.....I dont see that...

I believe they havent been done yet ...and I think that is somewhat odd. Only 2 reasons for that...

1. HCGM has been busy out of town recruiting....
2. Someone is going and we want commitments to fill those vancancies or vacancy.

Im leaning for option 2

[tropicalshox]

I think HCGM has been busy with out of town recruiting and perhaps #2 is one of the reasons.

[Downtown Shocker Brown]

I think HCGM has been busy with out of town recruiting and perhaps #2 is one of the reasons.

:good:

[150946shox]

Seems to me that the announcements of a player leaving always come shortly after the post seaons banquets. As far back as Jay Lewis (1999-2000), Maurice Evans, Adam Liberty, Sean Ogirri, Ryan Bradley etc. They all announced after the banquet which is scheduled for April 15 this year.

I notice this because I always attend the banquet and wish the players well in the year to come, then see they're gone shortly afterward.

[RoyalShock]

The athletic department surely has more important things to do than put out a press release about transfers. I would also suspect there is some consideration afforded to the player(s) to have it publicized at the right time.

And who's to say that a final decision is made after the meeting? Don't be so quick to assume that the player comes in and is immediately told he does not have a scholarship next year.

Take a step back and don't be so quick to make assumptions. It sounds an awful lot like you (whoever you are, I'm not pointing fingers) are eager to hear someone is not returning.

We'll hear something (if anything is to be heard) at the appropriate time.

[RoyalShock]

More defections from Utah, including Toure's high school teammate Chris Hines and their top returning scorer.

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/700020514/Carlon-Brown-leaving-Utes.html

That makes four this year.

[pinstripers]

Hey, trop, were we in on Hines back when?

[WSUwatcher]

Hines

According to Utah's website, Hines is a redshirt freshman this year, which means that a transfer directly to a D-1 school is unlikely (because he'll have to sit a year that he doesn't get back, inasmuch as he's already redshirted).

Most likely a juco candidate this coming year, I'd think.

[tropicalshox]

Hey, trop, were we in on Hines back when?

Going from memory I'm pretty sure the answer is no. His verbal to Utah was well before Murry made his decision. I believe you wil find our discussion about Hines was due to only what influence he would have on Murry picking Utah over the Shockers.

Because of Utah's defections they are out beating the bushes. We are in competition with them for at least three recruits: Rogers, Watkins and Ragland.