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Brown averaged more minutes than Grady or McDuffie, but perhaps fewer minutes are more appropriate for those categories"I not sure that I've ever been around a more competitive player or young man than Fred VanVleet. I like to win more than 99.9% of the people in this world, but he may top me." -- Gregg Marshall 12/23/13 :peaceful:
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From ISUR board - kinda funny . .
Re: MVC All-Conference picks?
Postby RedbirdsSoccer » Tue Mar 01, 2016 9:28 am
1. FVV Coach of Year
2. Dan Muller
3. Barry Hinson
Let's see how Marshall does next year without his floor general and on-court coach.If you take the high road, you won't find much traffic there . . .Comment
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All-Valley spots filled by team with number of non-seniors in (). This is not different individuals, but spots filled.
WSU 7 (2)
ILS 4 (3)
UNI 4 (2)
MSU 4 (4)
INS 3 (2)
UE 3 (0)
SIU 2 (1)
BU 2 (2)
DU 1 (1)
UL 1 (0)Comment
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He might regress all the way back to the year before Fred was on the team.Originally posted by Rixtoy1 View Post
You know. Go 16-2 with a MoV of 16.
#selectivememoryComment
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Wait....that doesn't make sense, because Paris Lee is already better than Fred and Ron put together...Originally posted by Rixtoy1 View Post
ISUr taking the political discourse tack of throw any old bulls*** out there and SOMEBODY will believe it, I see.Comment
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Church didn't make all-newcomer team? That's just stupid. WSU is not gonna get 3 guys on all-defense, just won't happen. If HCGM doesn't get COY, I would not be shocked.Comment
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Redturd soccer? Seriously?
BahahahaDeuces Valley.
... No really, deuces.
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We need at least one major snub for chip-on-the-shoulder purposes and, based on past history, I am confident we will get it.
I'm pretty sure Fred will get POY and I doubt we will get the shared POY with Ron that 3G would like. I expect the DPOY to go to the Big E and the COY to go to whoever they pull out of the hat (a hat which doesn't include 3G's name). I don't think the Big E getting defensive POY is that big of a snub. He had a very good year. 3G not getting COY would be a snub and if it was any conference other than the Valley it would seem too far-fetched to even consider. BUT it is the Valley.
I don't know for sure what team awards, if any, are given but the Shocks had the highest scoring offense (76.0 PPG) and best scoring defense (56.9 PPG) in Valley play and the have margin of 19.1 PPG was 13.2 PPG better then the next best team and this from a team that generally avoided running up the score late in blowouts.Last edited by 1972Shocker; March 1, 2016, 02:09 PM.Comment
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It's anti-Marshall butthurtness like this which should expedite our exit out of this kindergarten conference.Deuces Valley.
... No really, deuces.
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SportsReference is source for PlayerEfficiencyRating, WinShares, and BPM (Box plus/minus compared to average player)
The PER for the 1st, 2nd and HM teams range from 15.5 to 29.8. I've listed other MVC players who played in 20 or more games with PERs in that range
Likewise for the Defensive team, the BOM range is 3.5 to 11.5 so I've listed others who playeed in 20 or more games with BPMs in that range.
First Team PlEffRtg WinShare Box +/- Ron Baker, Wichita State, Sr. 22.8 5.2 11.5 D.J. Balentine, Evansville, Sr. 19.4 4.3 2.7 Anthony Beane, Southern Illinois, Sr. 18.8 3.9 1.0 Egidijus Mockevicius, Evansville, Sr. 29.8 6.6 5.5 Fred VanVleet, Wichita State, Sr. 23.5 4.3 9.8 Second Team DeVaughn Akoon-Purcell, Illinois State, Sr. 18.3 2.5 1.6 Devonte Brown, Indiana State, Sr. 15.5 2.3 1.0 Montel James, Loyola, Sr. 21.0 2.5 -1.6 Brenton Scott, Indiana State, Sophomore 17.1 2.9 2.9 Wes Washpun, UNI, Sr. 20.3 4.1 4.7 Honorable-Mention Selections Matt Bohannon, UNI, Sr. 16.5 3.9 5.3 Paris Lee, Illinois State, Jr. 16.5 3.1 3.5 MiKyle McIntosh, Illinois State, So. 17.1 2.2 3.7 Dequon Miller, Missouri State, Jr. 10.3 0.9 -2.7 Jeremy Morgan, UNI, Jr. 21.1 4.5 9.9 Reed Timmer, Drake, So. 19.8 3.2 1.0 Others with PER above lowest mentioned Camyn Boone, Missouri State,Sr. 20.7 2.3 -0.2 Deontae Hawkins, Illinois State,So. 18.3 2.8 4.3 Sean O'Brien,Southern Illinois,Jr. 17.5 3.1 3.0 Chris Kendrix,Missouri State,So. 17.4 2.2 1.8 Bennett Koch,Northern Iowa,So. 16.1 1.6 -2.9 Paul Jesperson,Northern Iowa 15.8 3.0 3.1 Devon Turk, Loyola, 15.6 2.2 0.6 All-Newcomer Team Dequon Miller, Missouri State, Jr. 10.3 0.9 -2.7 Anton Grady, Wichita State, Sr. 18.4 1.8 2.1 Mike Rodriguez, Southern Illinois, Jr. 12.4 2.4 0.5 Markis McDuffie, Wichita State, Fr. 18.2 2.3 5.8 Everett Clemons, Indiana State, Jr. 13.9 2.2 3.1 All-Freshman Team Markis McDuffie, Wichita State 18.2 2.3 5.8 Obediah Church, Missouri State 15.0 1.7 3.2 Dwayne Lautier-Ogunleye, Bradley 8.0 0.3 -3.1 Jarred Dixon, Missouri State 13.2 1.3 -0.5 Luuk van Bree, Bradley 10.3 1.1 -0.7 All-Defensive Team Ron Baker, Wichita State, Sr. 22.8 5.2 11.5 Egidijus Mockevicius, Evansville, Sr. 29.8 6.6 5.5 Jeremy Morgan, UNI, Jr. 21.1 4.5 9.9 Fred VanVleet, Wichita State, Sr. 23.5 4.3 9.8 Paris Lee, Illinois State, Jr. 16.5 3.1 3.5 Others above lowest Box +/- selected Zach Brown,Wichita State,So. 18.1 2.8 8.8 Shaquille Morris,Wichita State,So. 21.7 2.3 6.4 Markis McDuffie,Wichita State,Fr. 18.2 2.3 5.8 Matt Bohannon,Northern Iowa,Sr. 16.5 3.9 5.3 Evan Wessel,Wichita State,Sr. 8.3 1.9 5.0 Conner Frankamp,Wichita State,So. 15.0 1.8 4.9 Mislav Brzoja,Evansvilel,Jr. 15.5 2.7 4.7 Rashard Kelly,Wichita Satte,So. 14.7 1.9 4.7 Wes Washpun, UNI, Sr. 20.3 4.1 4.7 Adam Wing,Evansville,Sr. 13.4 3.1 4.6 Deontae Hawkins, Illinois State,So. 18.3 2.8 4.3 MiKyle McIntosh, Illinois State, So. 17.1 2.2 3.7 "I not sure that I've ever been around a more competitive player or young man than Fred VanVleet. I like to win more than 99.9% of the people in this world, but he may top me." -- Gregg Marshall 12/23/13 :peaceful:
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Remember when Nancy Pelosi said about Obamacare:
"We have to pass it, to find out what's in it".
A physician called into a radio show and said:
"That's the definition of a stool sample."Comment
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Pretty much every SIU fan with half a brain knows Hefferman is a joke. He's not just a homer; he's a moron, and that's an insult to morons. Embarrassing. How anyone but Marshall could be COY is beyond me. I too would go with Marshall, Muller, and (very reluctantly) Hinson.Originally posted by ShockerFever View PostComment
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Shaq's gotta be on most improved team. Next year he's probably the best post player in the league. He's come long way since last year.Comment
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If I was the Bradley coach and received the COY award this year (which won't happen) I would decline to accept it on the basis that I am not interested in participation trophies at this level.Comment
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Right? I mean, I have nothing against Wardle. He's trying something, and it may work. Perhaps he will earn it in another couple of years. I would certainly call his year more successful than, say, Giacoletti's. Maybe even Moser's and Lusk's. Heck, you might even convince me he did a better job than Simmons. But let's take it easy.Originally posted by 1972Shocker View PostComment
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And Heffernan went with Ben Jacobson of UNI as COY with his vote. Man, I'm no NCAA Div I coach, but it sure seems like it's that man's job to get his team prepped and 'up' for EVERY game, not just biggies like NC or Iowa, or WSU for that matter. This team flat lost too damn many times to the 'puff balls' of the Valley. If I were a UNI fan I would have pulled out all of my beautiful, curly locks over the way Jacobson's squad played this year.Originally posted by WuShock16 View Post
To me, he just didn't do the best with what he had on hand for consideration as COY.
I know I'm biased, but I'd go 3G or Hinson.Comment
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