Who should be Wichita State's Head Coach?

[Dan]

Much more difficult? Arguing over this is counter-productive because both have merit, and Turgeon deserves a lot of credit. However, a F4 finish, #1 or #2 ranking, a #1 Seed, and 34-0 undefeated regular season is quite a steep hill to climb, and is rarified air.

Had we expected 3G to make a final 4, I would agree with you. But the expectations of the coach coming in was much steeper with Turgeon. I know you’ve seen your share of losing teams, but we were bottom of the barrel MVC when Turgeon got here and the facilities were garbage. The recruiting class he put together with Howard, Kampman, Burns and Miller was incredible for that period of our program (too bad Jamie Sowers left, he had sky high potential).

[pinstripers]

Actually, what I heard was that Cohen was recruiting Griffin, and Craig Duerksen from Hillsboro, and almost no other Div. 1 schools were. After Cohen was fired, he was angry, and went to Seton Hall with the information that they could play. Even though Wichita (Scott Thompson) continued to recruit them, Seton Hall jumped in and signed them. Griffin worked out for SH but Duerksen transferred back to Hutch Juco after one year. Then Duerksen transferred from Hutch to Northwestern after one year.

Had never heard that story. What a chickenshit

[Aargh]

Finding "the next Marshall" is unlikely. There may not be one out there now. It's also unlikely WSU will see 3 future NBA players, including an all-star PG, on the roster at any time in the future.

It's also unlikely Marshall was ever going to have 3 future NBA players on his roster had he continued coaching here. After the 3 future NBA players who ran the table in the MVC graduated, Marshall was able to get two future NBA players over the remainder of his career. Maybe more if we watch Council. None of the future NBA players after FVV, RB, and CE played more than 2 years here.

Not even Marshall was "the next Marshall". If you're going to use an undefeated season and a F4 as the standard, then Marshall was on a downward trajectory.

[wichshock65]

Finding "the next Marshall" is unlikely. There may not be one out there now. It's also unlikely WSU will see 3 future NBA players, including an all-star PG, on the roster at any time in the future.

It's also unlikely Marshall was ever going to have 3 future NBA players on his roster had he continued coaching here. After the 3 future NBA players who ran the table in the MVC graduated, Marshall was able to get two future NBA players over the remainder of his career. Maybe more if we watch Council. None of the future NBA players after FVV, RB, and CE played more than 2 years here.

Not even Marshall was "the next Marshall". If you're going to use an undefeated season and a F4 as the standard, then Marshall was on a downward trajectory.

Our next Marshall was not even interviewed because our brain dead ex AD was too lazy. Instead, Mississippi State has our next Marshall.

[Downtown Shocker Brown]

Finding "the next Marshall" is unlikely. There may not be one out there now. It's also unlikely WSU will see 3 future NBA players, including an all-star PG, on the roster at any time in the future.

It's also unlikely Marshall was ever going to have 3 future NBA players on his roster had he continued coaching here. After the 3 future NBA players who ran the table in the MVC graduated, Marshall was able to get two future NBA players over the remainder of his career. Maybe more if we watch Council. None of the future NBA players after FVV, RB, and CE played more than 2 years here.

Not even Marshall was "the next Marshall". If you're going to use an undefeated season and a F4 as the standard, then Marshall was on a downward trajectory.

Marshall had 3 players with NBA potential on that 2020 roster. That is why HCIB was able to have the success he did. Dennis, Etienne, and Council, with continued development under fHCGM all had potential to be drafted and make a mark.

[ShockingButTrue]

Had never heard that story. What a chickenshit

Yep. Thanks Eddie...

Watching Butler beat ranked Xavier the other night bummed me out a little. Was crossing my fingers we'd get Matta (or Beilein) 3 years ago...

[Downtown Shocker Brown]

Did it cross anyone’s mind that perhaps Cohen was just looking out for the kids? Seton Hall is a great learning institution.

Does Griffin make it where he did playing for Scott Thompson at Wichita State?

[ShockTalk]

Did it cross anyone’s mind that perhaps Cohen was just looking out for the kids? Seton Hall is a great learning institution.

Does Griffin make it where he did playing for Scott Thompson at Wichita State?

How would he have done under Cohen had he not been fired????

[Woodrow]

Finding "the next Marshall" is unlikely. There may not be one out there now. It's also unlikely WSU will see 3 future NBA players, including an all-star PG, on the roster at any time in the future.

It's also unlikely Marshall was ever going to have 3 future NBA players on his roster had he continued coaching here. After the 3 future NBA players who ran the table in the MVC graduated, Marshall was able to get two future NBA players over the remainder of his career. Maybe more if we watch Council. None of the future NBA players after FVV, RB, and CE played more than 2 years here.

Not even Marshall was "the next Marshall". If you're going to use an undefeated season and a F4 as the standard, then Marshall was on a downward trajectory.

We have to believe and hopefully Saal does believe more than some of the posters on SN. There are other Marshalls out there.

[Ashockalypse]

Finding "the next Marshall" is unlikely. There may not be one out there now. It's also unlikely WSU will see 3 future NBA players, including an all-star PG, on the roster at any time in the future.

It's also unlikely Marshall was ever going to have 3 future NBA players on his roster had he continued coaching here. After the 3 future NBA players who ran the table in the MVC graduated, Marshall was able to get two future NBA players over the remainder of his career. Maybe more if we watch Council. None of the future NBA players after FVV, RB, and CE played more than 2 years here.

Not even Marshall was "the next Marshall". If you're going to use an undefeated season and a F4 as the standard, then Marshall was on a downward trajectory.

You now have the record for most full of **** posts of all time. You are the GOAT of Shockernet. You have the ability to look into the future and tell that the best Coach in our history was not going to win any mor or get any more NBA players. What an idiot.

[Stickboy46]

... Heiar is done for

[WuShock16]

... Heiar is done for

Holy ****ing ****!

[pinstripers]

Verbal Commits @VerbalCommits

New Mexico State G Kyle Feit is entering the transfer portal. https://verbalcommits.com/players/kyle-feit

[WuDrWu]

Apparently 3 players have entered the portal already, and NONE of them had anything to do with either of the incidents. There will be teams transitioning to D1 that are in far better shape than NMSU.

Aren't they moving to CUSA? Can CUSA decline to admit them now? I mean at this point....do you REALLY want to take a roadie to Las Cruces and deal with that **** show, no matter the sport?

[TrackSuitAndTie]

Marshall had 3 players with NBA potential on that 2020 roster. That is why HCIB was able to have the success he did. Dennis, Etienne, and Council, with continued development under fHCGM all had potential to be drafted and make a mark.

I love Dexter Dennis, but he's nowhere near an NBA player as a wing who shoots 29% from deep and can't dribble very well.