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  • Compare the list of debt of football institutions to the list of endowments at those Universities and you will discover why the football debt is insignificant comparatively.

    California system is over 15 billion.
    University of Arizona is 1.2 billion.
    Arizona State is 1.4 billion.
    Illinois system is over 3 billion.
    Texas A&M system is over 18 billion.
    Georgia Tech is almost 3 billion.
    University of Michigan is over 17 billion.
    University of Iowa is over 3 billion.
    University of Washington is almost 5 billion.
    Ohio State is almost 7 billion.
    Colorado University system is 2 billion.
    University of Minnesota is over 5 billion.

    And so on.

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    • Originally posted by Signman View Post
      Compare the list of debt of football institutions to the list of endowments at those Universities and you will discover why the football debt is insignificant comparatively.

      California system is over 15 billion.
      University of Arizona is 1.2 billion.
      Arizona State is 1.4 billion.
      Illinois system is over 3 billion.
      Texas A&M system is over 18 billion.
      Georgia Tech is almost 3 billion.
      University of Michigan is over 17 billion.
      University of Iowa is over 3 billion.
      University of Washington is almost 5 billion.
      Ohio State is almost 7 billion.
      Colorado University system is 2 billion.
      University of Minnesota is over 5 billion.

      And so on.
      Why the population, as a whole or at least a commanding majority, isn't bleeding from the ears from ANY discussion of the Federal Government "forgiving" student loan debt, when the schools themselves are sitting on billions and billions and billions of dollars (many of those dollars also coming from the Fed), is beyond comprehension.

      I have no problem if you want to forgive some loans, but for the love of all that's holy, go to the people that profited from these loans in the first place, NOT the people that had nothing to do with the transaction from the beginning.

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      • Originally posted by AZ Shocker View Post
        They'll leverage the perception and optics in their favor. No way the Bay area schools come to the AAC. Let's not forget the first word in the AAC. I don't want want those pu##ies. Do you?
        Those four schools coming to the AAC would dramatically increase the perception, reach and likely even increase the media pay out. So yes, I want those pu##ies in the AAC.

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        • Originally posted by pogo View Post
          I don't know if adding whats left of the pac 12 ensures any stability for the AAC or could turn into a waiting game for the two California waiting to be picked in the next round. Would taking several schools from the AAC to reform the pac 12 work? It would seem that for an AAC school or schools to join the pac 12 they would have to be aware that the two California schools will always be looking for a larger pay day from one of three conferences that could throw them that life liine and then where would the remaining schools be left with? I would think an AAC school would be more inclined to see how this plays out over the next year.
          IMO, if an AAC school has the ability to choose of moving to the PAC with the 4 schools or having the PAC4 move to the AAC its a no brainer to have them come to the AAC for stability reasons. Either way, the PAC4 is going to jump first chance they get to the BigXII, B1G, ACC or SEC. At least in the AAC you are still in a conference with the majority of the members being "stuck" and no realistic path to being invited up. Plus I'm guessing adding the PAC4 to the AAC will also add a couple upper tier MWC schools shortly after because the AAC becomes without a doubt the 5th best conference. If you jump to the PAC you run the risk of being stranded in a conference, well away from your school, that will also likely no longer be considered a power conference anyways.

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          • Originally posted by TrackSuitAndTie View Post

            Probably a risk worth taking if you're the AAC. Adding those four schools would boost media payouts immediately and allow schools to collect exit fees if/when those schools bolt. Washington State and Oregon State also only really have the B12 as an option if they join the AAC so they might be stuck if the B12 doesn't want them. Stanford and Cal have more options and drive more media value.
            Good point about exit fees.. I'm going to guess any rebuilt PAC will have VERY low barriers to exit.

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            • Cougars and Beavers-and Bears and Trees oh my

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              • This guy has contacts inside the AAC, but also might be too close and be giving a homer look




                IF the comment about Stanford having mutual interest .. that's a big deal.

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                • another interesting bit ... I'd hope our "pairing" with Navy would be helpful here. Navy isn't getting jettisoned

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                  • What’s he going to do? Just start booting teams from the conference with no money being given to them? Good luck with that move. Sounds like a garbage rumor.

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                    • Originally posted by Stickboy46 View Post
                      another interesting bit ... I'd hope our "pairing" with Navy would be helpful here. Navy isn't getting jettisoned

                      Not to be an echo of myself, but if this new conference needs a MBB/Olympic to match up to Navy then that's Gonzaga as far as the day is long. I wouldn't hold my breath on our hopes under those circumstances.

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                      • Originally posted by SHOCKvalue View Post

                        Not to be an echo of myself, but if this new conference needs a MBB/Olympic to match up to Navy then that's Gonzaga as far as the day is long. I wouldn't hold my breath on our hopes under those circumstances.
                        Yup, that's likely .. unless one of the other bigger conferences uses it as an excuse to grab Gonzaga before they can.

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                        • Originally posted by shoxlax View Post
                          What’s he going to do? Just start booting teams from the conference with no money being given to them? Good luck with that move. Sounds like a garbage rumor.
                          Would likely be based on having enough votes to dissolve the AAC. I believe it would take 11 of 14 schools, add the pac4, then grab 3-5 from the MWC in the future

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                            • Originally posted by RoyalShock View Post
                              This is by far the cleanest way. Wonder if there is a way they can merge the two conferences and keep BOTH conferences NCAA and CFP distributions

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                              • Originally posted by SHOCKvalue View Post

                                Not to be an echo of myself, but if this new conference needs a MBB/Olympic to match up to Navy then that's Gonzaga as far as the day is long. I wouldn't hold my breath on our hopes under those circumstances.



                                There has been tons of articles that there have been talks that Gonzaga is going to the Big 12 since June. Jerome Tang has mentioned that something real big is coming soon in the Big 12. What would Gonzaga choose? PAC 4 and MWC or Big 12? It’s obvious.

                                https://www.seattletimes.com/sports/...ches-weigh-in/

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