Realignment Carousel Spins Up again (USC and UCLA to Big 10)

[pogo]

SDSU going 322 million in debt when you have a 4 million a year TV deal is impressive.

That really is going ALL IN.

[pogo]

I forget but I believe WSU was less than 10 million in debt when they pulled the plug on Football. Those amounts above make it look like we weren't even trying.

[BAShocker]

Yup, https://www.outkick.com/cal-stanford...nnual%20income.

They pay 18 million a year in INTEREST alone on the financing for their football stadium.

Cal Berkley probably thinks the U.S. govt should/will bail them out.

[1972Shocker]

Cal Berkley probably thinks the U.S. govt should/will bail them out.

And they probably will. Stacking another $400 million on to of $32 trillion is not that big of a deal.

[Aargh]

And they probably will. Stacking another $400 million on to of $32 trillion is not that big of a deal.

“A billion here, a billion there, and pretty soon you're talking real money."

- Everett Dirksen

[shoxlax]

No public school in the country has more athletics debt than the University of California-Berkeley. It is operating significantly in the red, to the point that the university is paying back some of the athletic department’s debt to help ease the burden and make it look like it was operating in the green.

Is this debt as in how much money they owe or debt as in net deficit? Seems like some of you are commingling terms?

[Shoxing Me Softly]

Well the dreaming is over. Calturd came up one vote short for ACC. They are now looking to rebuild the PAC. AAC about to get raided, this pipe dream of them joining AAC isn’t going to happen.

[Stickboy46]

Well the dreaming is over. Calturd came up one vote short for ACC. They are now looking to rebuild the PAC. AAC about to get raided, this pipe dream of them joining AAC isn’t going to happen.

The PAC that doesn't have a media deal, and as a conference has a ton of debt is going to raid conferences with 17 to 34 million dollar buyouts? Its already basically been said by other conference leaders that the PAC will lose its A5 status and will get their CFP distributions adjusted down.

They might pull something off, but it's not a sure deal by any means.

[ShockerExpress]

The PAC that doesn't have a media deal, and as a conference has a ton of debt is going to raid conferences with 17 to 34 million dollar buyouts? Its already basically been said by other conference leaders that the PAC will lose its A5 status and will get their CFP distributions adjusted down.

They might pull something off, but it's not a sure deal by any means.

Not only that, but you have to be concerned that every former P5 member of that conference is GONE the second they get the chance.

Not saying AAC will stick or add, but there is a better shot than Shoxing is indicating.

[AZ Shocker]

They'll leverage the perception and optics in their favor. No way the Bay area schools come to the AAC. Let's not forget the first word in the AAC. I don't want want those pu##ies. Do you?

[pogo]

Read where espn offered the pac 12 30 million each but the offer was turned down by the pac 12 and asked for 50 mil ESPN said no thanks and then the fox offer came in at 25 mil and thats when CU left to be followed by the others.

[pogo]

I don't know if adding whats left of the pac 12 ensures any stability for the AAC or could turn into a waiting game for the two California waiting to be picked in the next round. Would taking several schools from the AAC to reform the pac 12 work? It would seem that for an AAC school or schools to join the pac 12 they would have to be aware that the two California schools will always be looking for a larger pay day from one of three conferences that could throw them that life liine and then where would the remaining schools be left with? I would think an AAC school would be more inclined to see how this plays out over the next year.

[TrackSuitAndTie]

I’m not sure why there’s a discussion regarding the potential add of current MWC schools to the AAC. The MWC is relatively stable, moreso now that the PAC is dead (assuming that comes to be). I doubt the new look AAC has any appeal to the MWC schools. The old AAC yes, but our current iteration may very well prove to be a weaker conference than the MWC.

Certain MWC schools could be enticed IF the AAC manages to land the Pac-4 (ESPN desperately needs that West Coast inventory). If the Pac-4 join the league, the American solidifies itself as the fifth best conference in FBS football. When discussing realignment, football is really all that matters. So there's a scenario where MWC could, in a couple of years, apply to join the AAC. Of course, things could go in a completely different direction, but that is why there is discussion regarding the addition of MWC schools in the future.

I could see a scenario where Colorado State and Air Force, who were previously very close to joining the AAC, become the league's 19th and 20th members in 2025 or 2026. Of course, this would hinge entirely on the AAC landing the Pac-4 schools. I list Colorado and Air Force because they would likely be more tolerable to Stanford and Cal (compared to other MWC schools) from an academics perspective.

[TrackSuitAndTie]

I don't know if adding whats left of the pac 12 ensures any stability for the AAC or could turn into a waiting game for the two California waiting to be picked in the next round.

Probably a risk worth taking if you're the AAC. Adding those four schools would boost media payouts immediately and allow schools to collect exit fees if/when those schools bolt. Washington State and Oregon State also only really have the B12 as an option if they join the AAC so they might be stuck if the B12 doesn't want them. Stanford and Cal have more options and drive more media value.

[Kung Wu]

AAC Pacific Division vs AAC Atlantic Division