Isaac Brown: Head Coach

[Downtown Shocker Brown]

Extremes? How thick can you be? This is a thread about the WSU head Coach. Gosh, If it weren't for him we'd be, what, 16-1 and ranked top 5 nationally, right?

In other words, why don't you bring this trash over to the We Suck At Rebounding Thread, because if it's a coaches issue, or lack thereof, why are you letting GGG off the hook? Didn't you see the relevant post I inserted regarding last year's squad shortcomings on hitting the glass, of which all players remain except the 7 footer? I'll re-post it here shortly for you.

Since you're the expert here, why don't you start a thread on why current players who can't dribble with their left hand insist on trying to drive the ball from 15-18 feet, which more often than not ends in turnovers? Because if Coach Brown could get that fixed we'd be 15-2, right? Or maybe start a thread about lack of movement of offense, because if the coach placed a little more emphasis in that area we'd have a 2 game lead over the 10th ranked team in the country instead of a 1 game lead, heading into March.

Do. You. Get. My. Point? STFU.

Even after editing, there is zero coherent thought in this post. Just deflection.

I think Coach Brown should start calling/texting/snap chatting/tweeting and sending any Shocker fans in TN to get someone who is a fantastic coach that teaches the nuances of rebounding.

[ShockingButTrue]

Even after editing, there is zero coherent thought in this post. Just deflection.

I think Coach Brown should start calling/texting/snap chatting/tweeting and sending any Shocker fans in TN to get someone who is a fantastic coach that teaches the nuances of rebounding.

Thank you downtown for giving me the chance to post this again (jeez, who are you to talk about bad syntax):

You didn't see me anywhere on this thread saying the Shocks are good at defensive rebounding. However I DID post a stat the showed we're top 40 in rebounding as a TEAM, yes. That has much to do with why they're in first place in the conference in the month of March.

If anyone is pointing directly to the lack of defensive rebounding at HC Brown (which it kinda' reads like) they are being short-sighted. I would feel stupid making such a point (blaming the coach), but If I did, then it would be at the lack of execution that takes place sometimes on offense. But I'm not going to ignorantly say our lack of offense is Clarence Jackson's fault. We all know better (I think).

Where were the rebounding experts last year when the Mountaineers outrebounded the Shocks by a count of 31 to 48, this after having been outrebounded by Northern Iowa the previous night by a count of 40 to 35? Yes, you read that right. Or, last year in the Shocks' 2 match-ups against the Coogs when the rebounding tallies were 39-35 on January 18th in favor of the Coogs here in Wichita. In the second match-up on Febuary the 9th the rebounding tally was 44-30 Coogs. The Shockers lost both games. Who coached those teams, of which IB inherited every. single. player?

This years Shocker team, in 2 games against the mighty Coogs had rebound totals of 45-41 in favor of the Coogs at their gym, and 35-33 in favor of the Shocks in the return game in Wichita.


Do you need that translated downtown? Read it slowly, or, I can/will post it again. Really, there are some substantive points in there.

[Shockm]

Why didn't we do it either game against Houston last year? It was GGG's fault then, right?

The answer is YES.

Although we were a good rebounding team last year and usually held our own. When we didn’t, that was considered an outlier. This years Houston game is an outlier. However, it shows that we can rebound if we want or choose to.

[ShockingButTrue]

The answer is YES.

Although we were a good rebounding team last year and usually held our own. When we didn’t, that was considered an outlier. This years Houston game is an outlier. However, it shows that we can rebound if we want or choose to.

Chris Jans ain't getting hired ok? Just accept reality.

[Shockm]

Thank you downtown for giving me the chance to post this again (jeez, who are you to talk about bad syntax):

You didn't see me anywhere on this thread saying the Shocks are good at defensive rebounding. However I DID post a stat the showed we're top 40 in rebounding as a TEAM, yes. That has much to do with why they're in first place in the conference in the month of March.

If anyone is pointing directly to the lack of defensive rebounding at HC Brown (which it kinda' reads like) they are being short-sighted. I would feel stupid making such a point (blaming the coach), but If I did, then it would be at the lack of execution that takes place sometimes on offense. But I'm not going to ignorantly say our lack of offense is Clarence Jackson's fault. We all know better (I think).

Where were the rebounding experts last year when the Mountaineers outrebounded the Shocks by a count of 31 to 48, this after having been outrebounded by Northern Iowa the previous night by a count of 40 to 35? Yes, you read that right. Or, last year in the Shocks' 2 match-ups against the Coogs when the rebounding tallies were 39-35 on January 18th in favor of the Coogs here in Wichita. In the second match-up on Febuary the 9th the rebounding tally was 44-30 Coogs. The Shockers lost both games. Who coached those teams, of which IB inherited every. single. player?

This years Shocker team, in 2 games against the mighty Coogs had rebound totals of 45-41 in favor of the Coogs at their gym, and 35-33 in favor of the Shocks in the return game in Wichita.


Do you need that translated downtown? Read it slowly, or, I can/will post it again. Really, there are some substantive points in there.

You still are good at making excuses. I wouldn’t want you to coach. IB is probably the right guy for this time, but he needs to tighten some things up and that might be through recruiting better players and/or getting a coach who is good at coaching that skill.

[ShockingButTrue]

You still are good at making excuses. I wouldn’t want you to coach. IB is probably the right guy for this time, but he needs to tighten some things up.

Did you at least comprehend my point? I'll post it again for 'ya if you didn't.

And Jans ain't walking through that door buddy? Sa va'?

[ShockerPrez]

So we should be able to have more rebounds than Tulane (who is one of the few teams we did have more rebounds) and South Florida (who did have Yetna at that time but probably not now) who out rebounded us by 11 a couple of months ago? I think so but some say we are just too short.

It's a good goal. Whether we do or not, probably will depend on if the missed shots go to where our guy is. And then we will probably get the rebound, or not.

[Downtown Shocker Brown]

Thanks, ShockingButFalse.

Premise 1: Not being as efficient at rebounding = lack of execution on offense. And since we cannot blame Clarence Jackson for the offense, then the first statement is false.

Premise 2: Not being as efficient at rebounding started last year, so we suck at rebounding because of Coach Marshall.

Premise 3: We have out rebounded Houston twice, so we must be good rebounders.

I, and I am sure others, continually get your jibberish. So let me be clearer in my response (probably a waste of effort, but hell, why not).

1. Being less efficient at rebounding started before this year. It started before last year. Coach Brown was here when we were Top 20 rebounding team. It was practiced, preached, walked, and talked. Every practice, every shot. That isn’t happening to that same level right now. (*see more under premise 3.) It has nothing to do with offense. But offense also comes down to execution. So maybe you are right and we need a Coach that can help Coach Brown teach these young men how to execute better.

2. It was Coach Marshall’s fault that the rebounding focus decreased after the departure of the Assistant Coach that led most of the drills on rebounding, and held people to a higher standard. Many have said so. Go look.

3. A broken clock is right twice a day. But the way we executed against Houston is how we must be executing every game to be a Top 25 team. Coach Brown did a good job preparing them for that. Hopefully it continues tonight.

Coach Brown is here, and I am proud to have him. As he works on his staff for next year, he needs to get an assistant that can compliment what he is good at with things that he isn’t as good at. That is how all great Coaches/Leaders work.

I get your connection to Coach Brown. It’s not personal. Just facts, or as you like to say, ShockingButTrue.

[ShockingButTrue]

Thanks, ShockingButFalse.

Premise 1: Not being as efficient at rebounding = lack of execution on offense. And since we cannot blame Clarence Jackson for the offense, then the first statement is false.

Premise 2: Not being as efficient at rebounding started last year, so we suck at rebounding because of Coach Marshall.

Premise 3: We have out rebounded Houston twice, so we must be good rebounders.

I, and I am sure others, continually get your jibberish. So let me be clearer in my response (probably a waste of effort, but hell, why not).

1. Being less efficient at rebounding started before this year. It started before last year. Coach Brown was here when we were Top 20 rebounding team. It was practiced, preached, walked, and talked. Every practice, every shot. That isn’t happening to that same level right now. (*see more under premise 3.) It has nothing to do with offense. But offense also comes down to execution. So maybe you are right and we need a Coach that can help Coach Brown teach these young men how to execute better.

2. It was Coach Marshall’s fault that the rebounding focus decreased after the departure of the Assistant Coach that led most of the drills on rebounding, and held people to a higher standard. Many have said so. Go look.

3. A broken clock is right twice a day. But the way we executed against Houston is how we must be executing every game to be a Top 25 team. Coach Brown did a good job preparing them for that. Hopefully it continues tonight.

Coach Brown is here, and I am proud to have him. As he works on his staff for next year, he needs to get an assistant that can compliment what he is good at with things that he isn’t as good at. That is how all great Coaches/Leaders work.

I get your connection to Coach Brown. It’s not personal. Just facts, or as you like to say, ShockingButTrue.

Premise 1 annotated: If someone is dumb enough to blame lack of rebounding on the coach (or, Udeze) then why not blame the lack of offense on the coach (or C. Jackson). Did you get that?

Premise 2 annotated: Who did Coach Brown inherit his players from?

Premise 3 annotated: No. It just means Coach Brown could beat Houston and GGG couldn't for 6 straight games (nor out rebound them). Extrapolate from that what you will, but it kinda' speaks for itself. We do have a separate thread about how we suck at rebounding right?

And yes it was a waste of your effort, because that's about when I quit reading, due to your 3 premises revealing how much you did indeed misinterpret what I intended.

When was the last time WSU was leading the AAC in the month of March. That's. My. Point. Did you discern that much?

[Shockm]

Premise 1 annotated: If someone is dumb enough to blame lack of rebounding on the coach (or, Udeze)?

who do you blame the poor rebounding on? (Bottom 1/3 Rebounding team in the nation)

[SubGod22]

who do you blame the poor rebounding on? (Bottom 1/3 Rebounding team in the nation)

Short people

[Shockm]

ShockingButTrue’s posting style reminds me of Clod. Many of his posts seemingly are not very thoughtful and seem to be meant more to provoke others. He may just not be capable of problem solving.

[ShockingButTrue]

ShockingButTrue’s posting style reminds me of Clod. Many of his posts seemingly are not very thoughtful and seem to be meant more to provoke others. He may just not be capable of problem solving.

Provoke?

What place was WSU in exactly 1 year ago on March the 3rd with the rebounding guru GGG as head coach? I'd like to say that will provoke some thinking on your part, but...

[ShockingButTrue]

Short people

GGG's players buddy. You're rooting for more court time for JB right?

I hate to be the one to tell you, but WSU ain't hiring Chris Jans. Ever...

[Downtown Shocker Brown]

Glad Coach Brown had no hand in recruiting those players. Oh, wait.