Coach Gregg Marshall Investigation

[Shocker1976]

How ironic. SM and CF. Two of the players Gregg provided a second (and third) chance would not reciprocate. You were therefore a good judge of character while Gregg was not. Good for you.

Perhaps SM and CF gave Marshall fourth and fifth chances; who really knows? What I do know is that Marshall's boorish behavior reached a point of no return for me and I wanted him to retire at age 60 as he publicly stated he would. What has now become clear to many of the readers of Shockernet is that Marshall's behavior is beyond boorish and WSU would be well served to "move on" from said individual.

[ShockingButTrue]

Are you serious? He's ****ing gone?

Holy ****!

Well, we are totally ****ed then.

I mean, Gregg Marshall is only the greatest coach in Shocker history. The AAC is collectively moaning right now. Now we're Tulsa w/o football.

The ghost of Mark Mangino and Bobby Knight are

Gregg had definitely lost his edge, but he had the potential to gain his second wind. I was waiting for it to happen in fact. Now we're going to hire a "nice guy" as a replacement. We're ****ed.

Oh well, at least I was front and center to experience a Shocker Golden Era. The trip to Atlanta will never be forgotten.

Thanks Gregg for all you did!

Bringing the level down a notch, or maybe even two, is just what's needed in these trying times and you're perfect for the job. Thanx... ; D

[Dan]

It’s not over yet.

[shockersx]

Glad your so confident. Did you see Shaqs emoji's after his Twitter post of a cop shooting a black dude?
its common this year. So much so we have a brand new name for these things.cancel culture. If you think it doesn't exist, you really need to do some homework. Personally, I believe this could be the case here....I said "could....
Do you think this would be an item if it were a black coach rather than marshal? Be honest!

So... Shaq tweeting emojis has you convinced that WSU is caving to the BLM crowd? Yeah I’m gonna need to see more evidence that led you to this conclusion. I think *if* Gregg gets the axe, he got himself cancelled.

Plus, based off what happened with President Golden, sure seems like WSU caves to other political pressure.

[ky-mike]

What if the "leaked" news about parting ways this week was a setup to discredit *******?

Obviously no news is no news, so there is still hope that this can be resolved in a manner that does the least amount of damage to all involved.

[ShockAzs]

Why are so many here jumping to conclusions on pure speculations. I hate, "news" outlets repeating the same rumor as fact, building the narrative.

[TheShocktocles]

A great man once said "In this age, in this country, public sentiment is everything. With it, nothing can fail, against it nothing can succeed."

[asiseeit]

I am not making any accusations or claims, however, without re reading all these pages I believe I recall some
mention of this Beamer person having Antifa posts on her webb page. We already know how left wing many
members of the media can be which makes me wonder how far left ******* could possibly be. Anyone know
his political back ground? First I've heard of SM's BLM reference but a case "might" be made about some sort
collusion between these entities with some very left wing attorneys involved, as well. I sure hope this kind of
activity is not responsible for targeting GM and Koch but it wouldn't be the most surprising thing I have seen in
recent months

[Dan]

It appears at this point that the national media has all been reporting that WSU is “expected” to fire Marshall this week. The source of that info appears to be some random Facebook poster who claims to have sources. He even said he has friends at ESPN. Meanwhile. neither WSU nor Taylor Eldridge has reported anything about a firing. It also seems that 3G saw all this speculation being reported on the local news and went up to WSU and probably blew a gasket and was asked to leave. Perhaps he blew a gasket because he has been negotiating something less than a termination. Perhaps a suspension is forthcoming and the Goodman’s of the world already blew their wad. Let’s just step back and see how this plays out.

[shockersx]

I am not making any accusations or claims, however, without re reading all these pages I believe I recall some
mention of this Beamer person having Antifa posts on her webb page. We already know how left wing many
members of the media can be which makes me wonder how far left ******* could possibly be. Anyone know
his political back ground? First I've heard of SM's BLM reference but a case "might" be made about some sort
collusion between these entities with some very left wing attorneys involved, as well. I sure hope this kind of
activity is not responsible for targeting GM and Koch but it wouldn't be the most surprising thing I have seen in
recent months

Antifa lost Gregg his job! And the radical left wing set him up! The socialists and communists had it out for him!

[shocker43]

I am not making any accusations or claims, however, without re reading all these pages I believe I recall some
mention of this Beamer person having Antifa posts on her webb page. We already know how left wing many
members of the media can be which makes me wonder how far left ******* could possibly be. Anyone know
his political back ground? First I've heard of SM's BLM reference but a case "might" be made about some sort
collusion between these entities with some very left wing attorneys involved, as well. I sure hope this kind of
activity is not responsible for targeting GM and Koch but it wouldn't be the most surprising thing I have seen in
recent months

Jesus you're delusional. Why are y'all so scared to admit what happened instead of finding some "alternative fact" to justify it? Shut up. You're making the entire fan base look bad. GM is a bad person. Punched a student, choked an assistant coach, and tried to fight another student over a damn parking spot. If the independent investigation didn't confirm these things to be true, we wouldn't be in this position. Gregg screwed Gregg.

Also, a recent podcast with Ron Baker shows his hand on this story. He didn't say much, but its obvious where he stands. He said he will tell his story eventually. I'm interested to see if he gets crucified on this board like Shaq has.

[pinstripers]

I'm ols enough to remember the demise of Bill Clinton and Richard Nixon. It really wasn't their sins that brought them down, it was the denials, the cover-ups, the lying about it later.

[Kung Wu]

Bingo. If the school parts ways with GM does anyone think that decision will not be based upon clear evidence of physical abuse? If you think to the contrary then you simply believe the entirety of the powers that be along with legal counsel are fully incompetent.

An organization has a much lower bar as to what is considered "physical abuse" than the common man does. Organizations don't even want the _perception_ of physical abuse. That puts coaches in a precarious position.

There is no excuse for a history professor to ever put their hands on a student, run them down in front of other students, or to visit their living quarters. Good coaches are physically touching students on a near daily basis, are having to get lazy 19 year-olds' attention for not attending classes or paying attention/participating at practice, and sometimes have to check in on their where abouts at night to make sure they are obeying curfew and not out smoking dope at 3am. A history professor that never played D1 sports cannot possibly understand or relate to that dynamic, even if they imagine they can.

I expect experienced presidents and athletic directors to better understand that dynamic, because if they are experienced they have seen it play out over and over and have "heard it all". 19-year olds make bad decisions often. Coaches rarely. That doesn't mean coaches are infallible, but generally the adult in the room is ... the adult.

[revenge_of_shocka_khan]

I'm ols enough to remember the demise of Bill Clinton and Richard Nixon. It really wasn't their sins that brought them down, it was the denials, the cover-ups, the lying about it later.

The difference between then and now is that we have a whole bunch of people buying into bullshit conspiracy theories courtesy of Fakebook - Antifa, Q-Anon and so forth, so any mentally imbalanced idiot can post crap on Fakebook and a whole bunch of intellectually lazy people will start amplifying it.

I could say more, but it probably more appropriately belongs in one of the elections pages. Let's just say that if you buy into the fact this election got stolen and you regurgitate this bullshit in front of a judge, you will be in danger of losing your law license, or, if you're a 'witness' a purjury charge, which is why a lot of this stuff is dying on the vine.

I don't think anyone wants to risk their livelihood by committing ethical violations in front of a judge.

And I think Patty Beamer, no matter what her political leanings are, is mentally imbalanced and it would be appropriate for school administrators to go to court to get a restraining order to prevent her from posting, reposting or speaking to media about things that might not be true.

[pinstripers]

The difference between then and now is that we have a whole bunch of people buying into bullshit conspiracy theories courtesy of Fakebook - Antifa, Q-Anon and so forth, so any mentally imbalanced idiot can post crap on Fakebook and a whole bunch of intellectually lazy people will start amplifying it.

I could say more, but it probably more appropriately belongs in one of the elections pages. Let's just say that if you buy into the fact this election got stolen and you regurgitate this bullshit in front of a judge, you will be in danger of losing your law license, or, if you're a 'witness' a purjury charge, which is why a lot of this stuff is dying on the vine.

I don't think anyone wants to risk their livelihood by committing ethical violations in front of a judge.

And I think Patty Beamer, no matter what her political leanings are, is mentally imbalanced and it would be appropriate for school administrators to go to court to get a restraining order to prevent her from posting, reposting or speaking to media about things that might not be true.

uh.....what?