Coach Gregg Marshall Investigation

[Ted Lasso's Neighbor]

I could see him surviving as some have mentioned above. His rolling contract is terminated, his salary slashed, the other portion of his salary goes into a fund for anger management ( or something like that), he is required to take counseling, the players involved agree to this as long as he doesn't stray from the path.

He also cannot be around the team during games, similar to when Chris Jans was brought back. He is free to potentially pursue other jobs and if he leaves, WSU is free and clear from anything other than his minimal base salary this year. No car allowance, etc etc.

I was thinking along those same lines but I put my post over in the coaching search thread (#352) because I mentioned Isaac Brown as becoming the head coach and Marshall being a special coach like Jans was, or even become a paid consultant like Golden is doing now.

[revenge_of_shocka_khan]

For me this is the more interesting issue; if Marshall committed "these acts" and they were subsequently reported to the AD - was corrective action taken by the AD or were these acts hidden from WSU Administrators (President Bardo)?

This is why I posted earlier that this could be perceived as a governance failure. The AD exercises governance over the sports programs. I don't (or can't) see any way Boatwright was not aware IF everything being said is true.

I also hedged and said that Boatwright may not have initially spoken up about it because he was afraid of the political blowback. However, once the 'cat got out of the bag', he may have acted as a sort of guide to the legal firm to the evidence.

If that was the case, the decision to be made by the University President is whether he believes Boatwright was direlect in his duties by sitting on it too long.....either way, I would not want to be Boatwright right now.

[Ted Lasso's Neighbor]

If he really was escorted out earlier this week, he was likely fired for cause and they gave him the choice to resign to save face. That would explain giving him a few days to think about things However, it also means he was given strike 1 about this previously per his contract. When did that happen? If he is fired, I think GM goes scorched earth and lawsuits with many zeroes in them will fly against WSU. Where is WSU going to get the money for that? The big donors are sure not going to chip in to fight it when many of them do not want him to go to begin with.

I am personally still holding out about 10% hope that he was also given the choice to seek counseling, make restitution, admit guilt etc and continue to coach at WSU. However, the percent of that hope seems to be dropping by the hour.

Stevenson getting his waiver approved yesterday made me wonder if that was either a) part of a list of things Marshall had to do if he wanted to remain and show he would change, or b) changes had been made in who had the final say on the waiver and thus the waiver approved.

However, I'm not sure how the whole waiver thing works with regards to who has the final say. I remember people saying Huggins was blocking Teddy Allen's, but I didn't know if that was just speculation and a head coach could actually do that or if it was the AD or how that all worked. Does anyone know how the whole waiver thing works and who has the final say? Coach, AD, NCAA, etc?

[OregonShocker]

The only way IMO is whether SM or others reported it when it happened, ADDB handled it internally, and there is proof that it has not reoccurred.

I think this COULD be a way out; however, I fear the repercussions for going forward, such as recruiting, etc. Same with the other options mentioned here; could hurt future recruiting. So, what is the statue of limitations on physical abuse? The verbal abuse I don't put creed in; we ALL have faced verbal abuse while playing competitive sports. Look at the trash talking that goes on now between players; is this abuse? No, it comes down to physical and what was done; and then, how do we see the future with HCGM?

[ABC]

Gregg is not a public figure (or at least he is not currently judged to be). These stories usually have to be researched and pass legal vetting prior to publishing.

As far as what 'Harry Reid did to Romney' I agree with that observation and would add that it happens on both sides (Jerome Corsi and James O'Keefe).

For libel and slander, I think GM is a public figure.

[pinstripers]

What's the timing between the Shaq incident and Sexton stepping down?

[Ted Lasso's Neighbor]

Gregg is not a public figure (or at least he is not currently judged to be). These stories usually have to be researched and pass legal vetting prior to publishing.

As far as what 'Harry Reid did to Romney' I agree with that observation and would add that it happens on both sides (Jerome Corsi and James O'Keefe).

Here is some interesting info about anonymous sources - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Source...nymous_sources

I think where it's starting to get out-of-hand, especially as we saw on Tuesday night, is people using them on Twitter. Social media seems to have it's own set of rules compared to print media, so legal vetting may not apply (or doesn't seem to apply), when it comes to Twitter.

[podunkboy]

Don't like to bring that university up the turnpike into it, but KU wrecked Mangino's career and their entire football program for less than HCGM is being accused. If what he's denying is proven to be true, he needs to go. I've suffered through some fairly bad years of Shocker basketball, it's probably made me a stronger person. Coach Marshall's got a bank account full of cash and doesn't need to work another day of his life (and he'll probably get a cushy network analyst job after a year or two of "anger management" counseling.) I'd just like this to be wrapped up soon so we can all move over to the "who's the next coach" thread and begin the healing. Oh, and if everything's proven false...we're good, right?

[AZ Shocker]

I'm starting to wonder if kids simply don't wanna win anymore......

[BOBB]

I'm starting to wonder if kids simply don't wanna win anymore......

Weak take.

Also weak is drawing parallels between this situation and politics.

[Ted Lasso's Neighbor]

Nothing to do with the investigation, but just an interesting day in WSU hoops history (also a tie in to Shockernet via the twitter account ShockerHoops):

[AZ Shocker]

Weak take.

Also weak is drawing parallels between this situation and politics.

I'm an out-of-the-box thinker BOBB. It's still 2020 and the world is upside down. It is a weak take I realize but forgive me for wondering out loud. Peace.

[wichshock65]

Also posted in recruiting forum.

[mjbaker84]

and so it begins

[Shocker Mama]

Crap.