Russia-Ukraine War

[MikeKennedyRulZ]

During a press conference Thursday in Warsaw with Polish President Andrzej Duda, Harris was asked about the ongoing flood of refugees into the country. Duda was also asked a question. After a brief pause, she broke into laughter over which leader should answer first.

https://twitter.com/tomselliott/stat...oland-n2604375

Cringy. She is a bimbo.

[1972Shocker]

Harris is terribly inexperienced and had her fair share of embarrassing moments, but this isn't one of them. This is just some guy on Twitter trying to make something of nothing.

Your probably accurate in your assessment. Politico reported that administration officials “say she’s not [in Poland] to make any deals, whether it be on humanitarian aid or the transfer of military equipment. Instead, her role is to serve as an emissary and an emblem of the administration’s commitment to the country and the trans-Atlantic alliance more broadly.”

On the other hand this Fox news reporter was not very complimentary although he was largely expressing opinions as much or more than reporting facts:

https://twitter.com/RNCResearch/status/1501940920639320067?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1501940920639320067%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fredstate.com%2Fsister-toldjah%2F2022%2F03%2F10%2Ffox-news-reporter-rips-into-kamala-over-detached-from-reality-press-conference-in-poland-n534136

Perhaps the issue is that the Biden Administration has not made it clear enough what the purpose of her trip is which sounds like it's more about photo ops than doing anything substantive.

[Kung Wu]

During a press conference Thursday in Warsaw with Polish President Andrzej Duda, Harris was asked about the ongoing flood of refugees into the country. Duda was also asked a question. After a brief pause, she broke into laughter over which leader should answer first.

https://twitter.com/tomselliott/stat...oland-n2604375

Harris is terribly inexperienced and had her fair share of embarrassing moments, but this isn't one of them. This is just some guy on Twitter trying to make something of nothing.

[1972Shocker]

During a press conference Thursday in Warsaw with Polish President Andrzej Duda, Harris was asked about the ongoing flood of refugees into the country. Duda was also asked a question. After a brief pause, she broke into laughter over which leader should answer first.

https://twitter.com/tomselliott/status/1501901624943464449?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1501901624943464449%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Ftownhall.com%2Ftipsheet%2Fkatiepavlich%2F2022%2F03%2F10%2Fkamala-harris-had-another-laughing-incident-in-poland-n2604375

[Shockm]

For 30 years Ukraine has been a sovereign country, partially controlled by Russia and partially by the west, receiving aid from both. It literally translates to “borderland” which is why it is most often referred to as “the Ukraine”.

It is not a “return to normal” for Ukraine to be independent, rather it is a return to the last 30 years of history and ignoring the previous millennia.

Your historical statement of the Ukraine is quite simplistic, and leaves out a lot of understanding of the people there. While it is true that Ukraine has been under the rule of different nations (and many wars for the territory) for the past several hundred years (Lithuania, Poland, Russia, etc.), the people who lived there (especially in rural areas) have been largely left alone to live their own lives without governmental interference. Therefore, the cultural customs, languages, food, religion, etc. have been created from many nationalities. These people have also been abused by many nationalities during different periods of time, (including German Nazi's, during WW2). Therefore, when the Bolsheviks came into the country in the early 1900's there was a lot of lawlessness, followed by Stalin who ruled with a heavy hand, and lasted throughout the time of Soviet rule, although the Soviets rule included a short interruption by German Nazi rule during the late 30's and early 40's.

https://www.rochester.edu/newscenter...-putin-513812/

"Mass Ukrainian nationalism emerged out of the traumas of the 20th century. Like Ukraine, there are plenty of states in Europe now that don’t have a long tradition of statehood. Putin claims that there’s not a Ukrainian history separate from Russian. But that’s not true. Among the speakers of Ukrainian and in the lands now comprising Ukraine, there were many different experiences. They belonged at times to different states and realms. But there was interaction between Ukrainian speakers throughout much of this history, and they developed a common identity, especially after the mid-19th century.

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What made Ukraine historically a place of “borders and mixing”?

• Ukraine is an area of various ethnicities, including nomads, absent of clear religious or physical boundaries.

The word “Ukraine” derives from a Slavic root, which can mean “frontier,” “edge,” “border,” or “outlands.” It has always been a place of borders and mixing, although the country itself didn’t exist yet, including the border between the steppe and the forest zone, which is extremely important in terms of the sorts of people who lived here. You have the mixing of many ethnicities: different Slavic ethnicities, Turkic peoples. Eventually, you get Jews, Germans, people who come to be called Poles, Greeks, people who spoke Iranian languages, and so on. Religious boundaries were equally fuzzy between the Orthodox Christian Church and the Catholic Christian Church, with Islam thrown in."


I think that the one thing that unifies the modern Ukrainian people in the past 30 years, is that for the first time, they have been (largely anyway) a democracy that has been self ruled for the first time, without a tyrant, and as a people (who includes a lot of citizens of Russian language, customs, etc.) they have been allowed more new freedoms (which can have a large drawback, and opens itself to corruption abuses). As a group of people, they don't want to go back to being ruled by a tyrant any longer, and feel closer to the western democracies than Russia.

[pinstripers]

I believe it was wind + drought + tilling leading to the dust bowl, not wind + tilling leading to drought.

THIS

[MoValley John]

I believe it was wind + drought + tilling leading to the dust bowl, not wind + tilling leading to drought.

You just need to imagine.

[Kung Wu]

Putin doesn't care about the Ukrainians. He will annex the Ukraine, then new Russian companies (mostly state owned) will be in control of trillions of dollars of resources, and the Ukrainians -- now Russians -- will be left to rebuild their tattered Russian territory.

Sad.

[wufan]

"Imagine" is the operative word here, Imagine a drought today like we often have in the West deepened by natural global warming combined with manmade global warming [if it exists]. Despite better farming techniques today and USDA assistance I believe that dryland wheat farming is going to become more problematic in the future on the southern High Plains.

Study the history of the Dust Bowl. A major contributor was breaking out too much land due to high wheat prices during WWI, continuing to break out even more land for more another decade as wheat prices declined, and improper farming techniques for a semi arid climate. Then drought hit, not due to farming techniques, but the effects of the farming techniques combined with the drought created a natural disaster.

I believe it was wind + drought + tilling leading to the dust bowl, not wind + tilling leading to drought.

[wufan]

The Ukraine has been a sovereign country since the early 1990's...no pretending on the part of the Ukrainians, look at the way they are defending their country against tremendous odds.
Sooner or later Putin will hit NATO countries like the Baltic states. Right now I have a feeling that the European NATO countries would be hard pressed to hold a line running from Poland through Romania without US help, much less defend the Baltic states. As it looks right now we are probably going to be at war with this SOB sooner or later.

For 30 years Ukraine has been a sovereign country, partially controlled by Russia and partially by the west, receiving aid from both. It literally translates to “borderland” which is why it is most often referred to as “the Ukraine”.

It is not a “return to normal” for Ukraine to be independent, rather it is a return to the last 30 years of history and ignoring the previous millennia.

[MoValley John]

"Imagine" is the operative word here, Imagine a drought today like we often have in the West deepened by natural global warming combined with manmade global warming [if it exists]. Despite better farming techniques today and USDA assistance I believe that dryland wheat farming is going to become more problematic in the future on the southern High Plains.

Study the history of the Dust Bowl. A major contributor was breaking out too much land due to high wheat prices during WWI, continuing to break out even more land for more another decade as wheat prices declined, and improper farming techniques for a semi arid climate. Then drought hit, not due to farming techniques, but the effects of the farming techniques combined with the drought created a natural disaster.

So everything you've stated is based on "imagining" something. Great.

here are facts.
The war is being funded largely by oil.
Oil and energy are huge factors in Putin's war.
Wheat has little, if anything, to do with the war.
Wheat grows damn near anywhere, in damn near any climate.
If nothing else will grow, wheat probably will.
Climate change is not driving this war.
The dust bowl was not a result of global warming.

[N Crestway]

Russia attacking border countries, and no one giving a **** about Ukraine is the historic normal. The only question is if we want to get into a European war to uphold the last 30 years of pretending Ukraine was a sovereign country and Russia wasn’t a threat.

The Ukraine has been a sovereign country since the early 1990's...no pretending on the part of the Ukrainians, look at the way they are defending their country against tremendous odds.
Sooner or later Putin will hit NATO countries like the Baltic states. Right now I have a feeling that the European NATO countries would be hard pressed to hold a line running from Poland through Romania without US help, much less defend the Baltic states. As it looks right now we are probably going to be at war with this SOB sooner or later.

[N Crestway]

So agricultural practices at the turn of the century caused a drought? How land was tilled caused it not to rain? Or was the global warming of the late 1800's early 1900's what caused the drought? And if global warming from way back caused the rain to stop, why did it ever rain again?

Back to your comments on wheat production, and wheat being raised further north because of global warming, you do realize that wheat has been raised in damn near deserts? Wheat was being raised in the middle east way back to long before Christ. Just a fact. Both Pakistan and Mexico rank in the top 20 of wheat exporters. Hot, arid climates.

"Imagine" is the operative word here, Imagine a drought today like we often have in the West deepened by natural global warming combined with manmade global warming [if it exists]. Despite better farming techniques today and USDA assistance I believe that dryland wheat farming is going to become more problematic in the future on the southern High Plains.

Study the history of the Dust Bowl. A major contributor was breaking out too much land due to high wheat prices during WWI, continuing to break out even more land for more another decade as wheat prices declined, and improper farming techniques for a semi arid climate. Then drought hit, not due to farming techniques, but the effects of the farming techniques combined with the drought created a natural disaster.

[SB Shock]

I'm out of another thread that Cold has hijacked with his idiocy.

Yeah, Nissan leaf are more important than Russia threat of chemical weapons use

Ukraine-Russia war: Western officials 'seriously concerned' Putin could use chemical weapons


Western officials see the prospect of Russia deploying 'non-conventional' weapons as a realistic possibility, it emerged today, as Ukraine accused Putin of targeting a maternity hospital

[wufan]

Play nice boys. You know you're dealing with a 200lb neutered Rottweiler wearing a muzzle, a bark collar, and a Prince Albert right through the ol' red rocket (purely decorative). Rest assured I'm given' you the facts straight up with NO chaser.

Your red rocket is purely decorative? I think I could have guessed that.