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  • Shockm
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    Originally posted by wufan View Post

    most of China’s is stolen western tech.
    And Billions of dollars of Afghanistan finders-keepers weapons which technically isn't stolen.

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  • ShockerPrez
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    Originally posted by wufan View Post

    Let’s not forget that most of Russia’s army is Soviet era tech where as most of China’s is stolen western tech.
    That's true. But Russia's tech is/was based on what they could steal from the West too. Just look at their Backfire bomber vs the B1. I think the biggest unknown, but what still tilts the balance is the ability of munitions to hit their targets the first time. The U.S. has the goods. Does China?

    China and Russia's milirary seems to be based on quantity over quality. And China's Navy is suspect. I know they want Taiwan, but watching Russia should give them 2nd thoughts. Especially if the U.S. gets involved. No idea what a 21st century amphibious assault looks like, but it won't be defended with MG42s and 88s from 10 miles inland. It will be guided missles that will hit the boats.

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  • wufan
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    Originally posted by ShockerPrez View Post

    Hopefully China is taking notice that maybe theirs isn't what they think it is either.
    Let’s not forget that most of Russia’s army is Soviet era tech where as most of China’s is stolen western tech.

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  • ShockerPrez
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    Originally posted by ShockerDropOut View Post
    One thing I think that has been revealed is that the Russian military is not as formidable, minus the nuclear option, as was once believed.
    Hopefully China is taking notice that maybe theirs isn't what they think it is either.

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  • N Crestway
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    Originally posted by ShockerDropOut View Post
    One thing I think that has been revealed is that the Russian military is not as formidable, minus the nuclear option, as was once believed.
    At some point they probably get it figured out unfortunately. It took them about 2 years in WWII but they eventually did it,maybe in part because Stalin brought back a lot of officers who had been sent to the Gulag.

    Putin is still succeeding in destroying the Ukraine which was probably his second option if he couldn't take it quickly. I also believe that he has successfully bluffed NATO and the Biden administration. Interesting how Blinken was initially receptive to the idea of the transfer of mig-29's from Poland to the Ukraine but then the idea was scotched a short time later....maybe part of the reason due to NATO weakness on the ground in central Europe. Despite all the talk and promises NATO ground forces, particularly Germany, are still in no shape to confront Russia, the Baltic states being particularly vulnerable.
    Last edited by N Crestway; March 19, 2022, 03:44 AM.

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  • ShockerDropOut
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    One thing I think that has been revealed is that the Russian military is not as formidable, minus the nuclear option, as was once believed.

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  • wufan
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    Originally posted by SB Shock View Post
    Putin has had the FSB arrest General Roman Gavrilov and his deputy for "wasteful squandering of fuel” and "leaks of military information that led to loss of life”

    General Gavrilov is in charge of Federal National Guard who lead the attack into Ukraine.

    Sergey Beseda (and his deputy)_, who is in charge of FSB foreign intelligence has also been arrested for “unreliable, incomplete and partially false information about the political situation in Ukraine.”
    Putin is desperate in the best possible way! I pray for a Ukrainian victory and that Putin doesn’t become desperate in the worst possible way.

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  • SB Shock
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    Putin has had the FSB arrest General Roman Gavrilov and his deputy for "wasteful squandering of fuel” and "leaks of military information that led to loss of life”

    General Gavrilov is in charge of Federal National Guard who lead the attack into Ukraine.

    Sergey Beseda (and his deputy)_, who is in charge of FSB foreign intelligence has also been arrested for “unreliable, incomplete and partially false information about the political situation in Ukraine.”

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  • Ted Lasso's Neighbor
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    Looks like some in the media have decided to pull Koch Industries and their dealings in Russia. One of the articles I saw was from CBS News at https://www.cbsnews.com/news/koch-in...ine-sanctions/ and they mention

    Wichita, Kansas-based Koch has several business lines in Russia, and is among the nearly 40 companies described as "digging in" by refusing to curb or stop business in that nation, according to a tally compiled by Yale University professor Jeffrey Sonnenfeld and his research team.
    They don't bother mentioning who the other 40 companies are, they just focus on Koch Industries. But the link they give in the tally part goes to https://som.yale.edu/story/2022/over...ia-some-remain and a person at Yale breaks what companies are doing into 4 different areas, ranging from withdrawal to not doing anything. It's interesting to see which companies are listed where. The current list seems to only have 27 in the not doing anything part vs the number 40 that CBS mentions.

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  • C0|dB|00ded
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    Oh my.......





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  • ShockerFever
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    Never realized until today that I’m actually Hispanic. Crazy.
    Last edited by ShockerFever; March 11, 2022, 02:59 PM.

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  • ShockerFever
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    Originally posted by C0|dB|00ded View Post




    It really is like arguing with children most times in here.
    Sup mirror?

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  • ShockerPrez
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    Originally posted by SB Shock View Post
    Dimitry Rogozin, the head of Russia's Space Agency and a close ally to Russian President Vladimir Putin, threatened to leave U.S. Astronaut Vande Hei behind in space and detach Russia's segment of the space station altogether.
    Elon Musk to the rescue.

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  • SHOCKvalue
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    I know when I think of Catholicism one of the first things I think of is the Arabian portions of the world.

    Wait... what!?

    I mean... maybe the tiny sliver of the overall population in those regions that is GREEK ORTHODOX, but I digress.

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  • SB Shock
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    Originally posted by SB Shock View Post
    Dimitry Rogozin, the head of Russia's Space Agency and a close ally to Russian President Vladimir Putin, threatened to leave U.S. Astronaut Vande Hei behind in space and detach Russia's segment of the space station altogether.
    In other breaking news

    the Russian Ministry of Defense made a wholly unsubstantiated and outright bizarre claim that the U.S. government is somehow training birds infected with or otherwise carrying biological weapons to fly from Ukraine to Russia.

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