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You are so selfish Cold. Why don't you do what's best for all mankind and wait. Shame on you. -
LA Dept of Health is so inept. Unbelievable. They move to close outdoor dining but admit they have no evidence of a link between outdoor dining and Covid. So lame.
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What in the F are you talking about clown? Me participation in their phase 3 trial makes me a hero. They had to pause their testing for a month due to a person showing issues - which were later found to be unrelated to the vaccine. They need people to take the shot so they can complete the trial and get approved.Originally posted by MikeKennedyRulZ View Post
The vaccine works; it's efficacy is still not well established but seems to be around 70% on average.
So yeah, here's an opportunity to get vaccinated about 4-6 mos. before you'd normally have a chance (in my category)... IF you get a shot of the real deal.Comment
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Most coronavirus cases spread from people with no symptoms, CDC says in new report
This is part of why the alien virus is so insidious; it has an endless supply of happy infectors running around oblivious. You need near 100% compliance with masks and social distancing until the infection spikes are under control. This is what other countries did through a unified effort between community and government.As coronavirus cases surge higher than ever before across the US, it's important to remember that most of them spread from people with no symptoms.
That includes people who have not yet developed symptoms but may fall ill as their infection progresses. Research shows that people "who feel well and may be unaware of their infectiousness to others" likely account for more than 50% of COVID-19 transmissions, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said in a science update on Friday.
That could happen at your Thanksgiving table, warns Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases.
"Right now today, in mid to late November, we're finding that innocent occurrences such as groups of friends and family meeting indoors because of the cold weather for dinner are becoming a major source of asymptomatic spread," he said during a virtual lecture for the University of Virginia School of Medicine on Wednesday. "That seems to be driving infections much more so now than the more obvious settings of bars and other places."
Top epidemiologist says Sweden has no signs of herd immunity curbing coronavirus
Sweden's top infectious disease expert said Tuesday that the country has not seen evidence of herd immunity slowing the spread of the coronavirus in the country.
“The issue of herd immunity is difficult,” Anders Tegnell, Sweden's state epidemiologist, said at a news briefing, according to Bloomberg News.
“We see no signs of immunity in the population that are slowing down the infection right now," Tegnell said.
Sweden has seen a resurgence of the virus in recent weeks, with the rate of new infections more than doubling from earlier this year.Some U.S. officials including Dr. Scott Atlas, a member of President Trump's coronavirus task force, have promoted a strategy of herd immunity despite repeated warnings from health experts that such a plan would be insufficient for controlling the spread of the virus or limiting deaths in the U.S.
Advocates of the idea have pointed to Sweden as an example, citing the country's unwillingness to implement lockdown measures inhibiting public life to stop the virus's spread.
That takes care of that fruitcake theory. Exactly as I said, Sweden is uniquely positioned to prevail in epidemics due to certain inherent cultural advantages.Tegnell has fought back against those views, however, and in an interview last month pushed back against the idea that Sweden had pursued a strategy of herd immunity.
"In common with other countries we’re trying to slow down the spread as much as possible... To imply that we let the disease run free without any measures to try to stop it is not true,” Tegnell told New Statesman.
“I want to make it clear, no, we did not lock down like many other countries, but we definitely had a virtual lockdown,” Tegnell said. “Swedes changed their behavior enormously. We stopped travelling even more than our neighboring countries. The airports had no flights anywhere, the trains were running at a few per cent of normal service, so there were enormous changes in society.”
Imagine if the White House had folks advocating for the herd immunity strategy in this country? Oh wait...
Epidemiologist Says Restricting Small Gatherings Isn't Enough To Stop The Surge
For weeks now, the message from public health officials has been clear: The safest way to celebrate Thanksgiving this year is with members of your immediate household only.
The level of coronavirus cases in the U.S. right now means the chances of encountering an infected person while traveling or while sitting at a crowded table are very real.
But to truly turn the current surge in cases around, epidemiologists say governments need to do more than just order people not to see friends and family.
There has been a lot of focus recently on the role of small gatherings in the national jump in cases. But those aren't the main culprits, says Ellie Murray, an epidemiologist at Boston University's School of Public Health.
According to state health department reports, the largest sources of coronavirus infections are workplaces like meatpacking plants and warehouses, institutional settings like prisons and retirement communities, and businesses like restaurants and bars, Murray tells All Things Considered.
"We have seen really large spread happening from things like bars especially and other kind of indoor gatherings like that, where people spend a long time in proximity with a lot of people," she says. "And I think that those places need to be closed down, for at least until we can get a handle on the current surge."I agree with this. But in the case of a packed beach, you're gonna have some transmission. I've seen it happen first hand.Every gathering has some potential for transmission. Whenever you come in contact with another person, there is some chance of transmission. But outdoor gatherings, especially ones that are really outdoors in the fresh air — we're not talking those tents or bubbles — and people have space to spread out, that is the lowest risk possible situation. And that should really be the last thing that we're putting regulation in place to stop. ...
A lot of governments in the summer were closing beaches and closing parks, and those are actually where we should be encouraging people to go instead of restaurants and stores and things like that.
They had coronavirus. Now they’re showing up at memory clinics with serious cognitive loss
There’s the man who used to be so handy around the house, he could repair just about anything.
“But he had a problem with the fence, and he had to call his brother over to help fix it,” says Dr. Jacqueline Rondeau, director of the Montclair Memory Clinic.
And there’s the registered nurse whose memory is suddenly failing her. “She didn’t know what day it was,” Rondeau says. “She’s forgetting a lot of things.”These new patients were referred to the Montclair Memory Clinic in recent months with one thing in common. They had coronavirus, and now they’re experiencing significant cognitive impairment — the kind more typically seen in someone who is at risk for dementia.
“I have had a handful of post-COVID patients, and they are having serious problems,” says Rondeau, a neuropsychologist who’s been treating people with memory loss for nearly two decades.
“We’re talking about people who were functioning normally (prior to contracting coronavirus), but now they’re not able to function the way they used to,” she says. “There can be neurocognitive impairment. There can be neurobehavioral impairment, or emotional impairment.”
The trend is being seen not just here in New Jersey, but at memory centers around the country and globally. The journal Neurology Today is reporting hundreds of COVID-19 “long-haulers” being treated for cognitive problems at specialty clinics set up in areas hardest hit by the virus.This kinda backs up my anecdotal report of several young folk in Independence, Ks. suffering from post-Covid cognitive issues.Somewhere between 40% and 50% of percent of Covid-19 patients develop neurological or psychiatric problems while they are still in the hospital, according to Dr. Robert Stevens, a Johns Hopkins University neurologist.
Worrisome as that is, what concerns scientists even more is the potential that people who’ve had the virus will continue to face cognitive problems long after they go home.
A team of leading specialists spoke to that concern in a paper published in Alzheimer’s Research and Therapy, warning that the virus could result in “potentially very significant” long-term cognitive problems for people who are recovering from it. The evidence strongly suggests survivors of COVID-19 are at higher risk of eventually developing neurological diseases, including Alzheimer’s disease, they say.
My recommendation remains the same: Avoid the insidious, alien virus if possible. Follow the CDC's guidance and continue to hunker down. The vaccine is right around the corner - perhaps available today if you sign up for the AstraZeneca trial.Comment
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They are also going to turn off the water/power to places hosing large gatherings.Originally posted by MikeKennedyRulZ View PostLA Dept of Health is so inept. Unbelievable. They move to close outdoor dining but admit they have no evidence of a link between outdoor dining and Covid. So lame.
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Check the source papers on the 50% claim. One uses poor methodology to estimate 50% in an attempt to justify lock downs, while the other did a survey of other studies in March through June and found that between 2 and 44% might be spread by pre-symptomatic carriers.Originally posted by C0|dB|00ded View Posthttps://www.businessinsider.com/cdc-...mptoms-2020-11
Most coronavirus cases spread from people with no symptoms, CDC says in new report
This is part of why the alien virus is so insidious; it has an endless supply of happy infectors running around oblivious. You need near 100% compliance with masks and social distancing until the infection spikes are under control. This is what other countries did through a unified effort between community and government.
Top epidemiologist says Sweden has no signs of herd immunity curbing coronavirus
That takes care of that fruitcake theory. Exactly as I said, Sweden is uniquely positioned to prevail in epidemics due to certain inherent cultural advantages.
Imagine if the White House had folks advocating for the herd immunity strategy in this country? Oh wait...
Epidemiologist Says Restricting Small Gatherings Isn't Enough To Stop The Surge
I agree with this. But in the case of a packed beach, you're gonna have some transmission. I've seen it happen first hand.
They had coronavirus. Now they’re showing up at memory clinics with serious cognitive loss
This kinda backs up my anecdotal report of several young folk in Independence, Ks. suffering from post-Covid cognitive issues.
My recommendation remains the same: Avoid the insidious, alien virus if possible. Follow the CDC's guidance and continue to hunker down. The vaccine is right around the corner - perhaps available today if you sign up for the AstraZeneca trial.
Trust the science! The science does not have data to support a 50% asymptomatic spread.Livin the dreamComment
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I agree. 50% does seem a little high. I've never heard higher than 40% previously stated.Originally posted by wufan View Post
Still insidious though.Comment
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We have to trust the science right? Well, apparently the science does not support the hysteria we are currently being urged to join by the MSM. I don't doubt this scientist for a second.Originally posted by t7017s View PostComment
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Cold will say this scientist doesn’t count and probably got his degree from the Mickey Mouse School of Medicine. If he doesn’t agree with it, then there has to be something wrong with that “science”.Originally posted by t7017s View Post
I will say though that it doesn’t explain the sudden rise in hospitalizations and deaths, unless the data is being grossly manipulated.Deuces Valley.
... No really, deuces.
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Yeah the pandemic is over that's why 4x the amount of deaths relative to the highest point of any flu season are currently occurring. It's all just vanilla pneumonia and the positives are mostly residual dead virus components.
Oh, and Covid is real btw.Comment
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Cold, can you name a person on here or any notable person anywhere that has stated that covid isn’t real? If that’s the point you’re going for, it sure plummets your IQ down several factors of 10.Deuces Valley.
... No really, deuces.
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Worry not! My IQ ranking is quite stable. In fact, you might say that I am a stable genius.Originally posted by ShockerFever View Post
The phrase I continue to repeat is nuanced. I am not surprised it would confuse you. Make no mistake though, it is absolutely directed at you and a handful of others on here.Comment
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Well then, plummet away.Originally posted by C0|dB|00ded View Post
Worry not! My IQ ranking is quite stable. In fact, you might say that I am a stable genius.
The phrase I continue to repeat is nuanced. I am not surprised it would confuse you. Make no mistake though, it is absolutely directed at you and a handful of others on here.Deuces Valley.
... No really, deuces.
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Pretty effing real...
Restaurants and bars will be full tonight as usual. *sigh*Comment
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