Coronavirus 2019-nCoV

[RoyalShock]

So now that I have basically recovered, am I bulletproof or not?

I think the general thought now is that you're good for at least 90 days.

[SB Shock]

So now that I have basically recovered, am I bulletproof or not?

CDC says "Based on what we know from other related human coronaviruses, people appear to become susceptible to reinfection around 90 days after onset of infection."

[pinstripers]

TERRIFIC, now if I was still young enough to party like a rockstar, I would!

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I may have to hang around a little bit longer lol. I think I derive some catharsis by the **** I post in here. I do hope you'll indulge me a bit more.

Just watched this video and it upset me a little bit. Remember about 6-7 months ago when I said they'd eventually have a Covid Syndrome? Well guess what...

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I think the general thought now is that you're good for at least 90 days.

Your comment is a bit disturbing. Where are you reading that the "general thought" on Covid immunity is that it's not durable?

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Tue = 2,669
Wed = 2,873
Thu = 2,921
Fri = 2,718

I think the last four day's numbers indicate we are all caught up from Thanksgiving.


I had some nice social interaction today. The weather was great so I visited with my folks outdoors, then I went to a house and talked with a friend who's doing some remodeling work for me. Had an outdoor fire going, shot the **** over some beers... still can't shake this pall that's come over me. I've always kind of had this knack for predicting the future. Nothing magical or clairvoyant, just a semi-subconscious process that connects disparate facts and combines them into high-probability expectations. I don't like what my spider sense is telling me... not even a little bit. I think we're headed for some real trouble in this country.

We've not even begun to experience the fallout from Thanksgiving and then we get Christmas.

Just heard from an ex whose dad was released from the hospital. They pumped him full of steroids and sent him home. His O2 levels were still very low and he had difficulty breathing. Guess they didn't have room for his level of urgency? That was a couple days ago and he's improving now thankfully.

I'm really tired. My brain won't allow me to delude it. In fact, I get the bad news in high definition. I need some mind-altering drugs. I've read that micro-dosing psilocybin can have very positive effects on perspective.

CB on shrooms... that might be interesting. ;)

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/12/04/kansas-obituary-covid-masks/

Obituary for Kansas covid-19 victim slams anti-maskers who ‘refuse to wear a piece of cloth on their face to protect one another’

After his 81-year-old father died of the coronavirus on Tuesday following nearly a week of isolation at a nursing home, Courtney Farr could not contain his frustration with the attitudes of people in his rural Kansas hometown who have downplayed the severity of the pandemic and railed against wearing masks for months.
So when it was time to write the obituary for his father, Marvin James Farr, the son slammed those in Scott City, Kan., who refuse to wear a mask to prevent the spread of the virus that killed his dad and more than 275,000 other Americans.

“He was born into an America recovering from the Great Depression and about to face World War 2, times of loss and sacrifice difficult for most of us to imagine,” the obituary said. “He died in a world where many of his fellow Americans refuse to wear a piece of cloth on their face to protect one another.”

Farr said local anti-mask sentiments have made it even more difficult to bear the loss of his father. “I’ve spent most of this year hearing people from my hometown talk about how this disease isn’t real, isn’t that bad, only kills old people, masks don’t work,” he said Wednesday on Facebook. “And because of the prevalence of those attitudes, my father’s death was so much harder on him, his family and his caregivers than it should have been.”

Marvin James Farr was born May 23, 1939, in Modoc, Kan. He graduated from Kansas State University in 1968. Following an interest in science, he considered studying to be a mortician, but decided instead to work as a farmer and veterinarian in a small town in western Kansas, his obituary said.

“The science that guided his professional life has been disparaged and abandoned by so many of the same people who depended on his knowledge to care for their animals and to raise their food,” his son wrote.

[shoxlax]

CDC says "Based on what we know from other related human coronaviruses, people appear to become susceptible to reinfection around 90 days after onset of infection."

I thought the experts were backtracking from that now, saying immunity could last for years or decades.

[wufan]

I thought the experts were backtracking from that now, saying immunity could last for years or decades.

Too early to tell. It’s all projected modeling. You can find real experts that believe a whole array of immunity based timelines.

The thing is with all viruses, as you successfully fight off the virus, you develop T-Cells, Once the virus is completely gone, the T-Cells drastically reduce in number, but they always hang around. If a T-Cell comes in contact with that same virus later, it rapidly proliferates and overwhelms the virus before you can get sick. If the virus is able to replicate for a period of time before it comes into contact with the correct T-Cells, you will get symptoms. That’s why patients that have undergone chemotherapy are susceptible to all kinds of infections...the chemo destroys T-Cells. Same with HIV.

Bottom line is that once you’ve been infected, you are never really immune, but you are always more likely to destroy the virus before you become symptomatic.

[SB Shock]

I thought the experts were backtracking from that now, saying immunity could last for years or decades.

I have not seen anything close to that, but that would be great. Unfortunately there is some limited evidence of some being reinfected in months. I'm sure that will be part of big study.

But here is presentation by cdc that discusses it (among other things) in more detail.

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/acip/meetings/downloads/slides-2020-10/COVID-Wallace.pdf

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I thought the experts were backtracking from that now, saying immunity could last for years or decades.

Wow. The entire news cycle is immunity durability at the moment. You ignore this **** for a couple days and the Covid news train leaves you behind at the station. Here's the encouraging article I posted a few weeks ago that might be the basis of your confusion:

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/17/health/coronavirus-immunity.html

There is contradictory information coming out from reputable sources. This is normal when facing a novel and unusual threat. Many things will be learned about this virus in the years ahead; some bad and maybe some good. To me the risk with what's known is enough to encourage rational people to exercise extreme caution. What's unknown is just the cherry on top of the **** sundae.

I believe traditional medical theory indicates that the worse the infection, the more robust the immune response and therefore protection, all things considered equal. My ex, who was part of a super-spreader event at the beginning of the summer, recently told me that her friends (who had fairly nasty cases - no hospitalization though) have all tested positive for Covid antibodies 5 months removed from the episode. That's encouraging I would think. The NYT's article detailed immune cells still present in those previously infected by SARS-1 17 years later.

But there are reports in various states of hundreds of cases of reinfections that are currently being investigated. The good news is that the vaccines are coming. And some experts are positing that vaccinations may create an even greater protective response in the body than your typical mild infection. So those of you that have had a go with the alien virus may be wise to take the vaccine too. I know I would.

I'm going to get the antibody test next week to see whether or not I've been the unlucky recipient of the alien seed.

My recommendation is unchanged; my current comment on the state of things is as follows: **** you! You insidious alien/demon scourge on society.

And to the pangolin-eating Chinese...

[RoyalShock]

The 90 days, from what I recall, has to do with how long you can go without being required to quarantine again after having an exposure to a known positive.

[SB Shock]

I'm going to get the antibody test next week to see whether or not I've been the unlucky recipient of the alien seed.

So are you saying you are Covid hypocrite?

If you have been doing everything you have been preaching, why would you think you are a Covid Survivor like most of us here?

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So are you saying you are Covid hypocrite?

If you have been doing everything you have been preaching, why would you think you are a Covid Survivor like most of us here?

Because I got Covid-like symptoms after visiting the chiropractor, quarantined for 10 days, tested negative during, and the best way of knowing whether or not I got a false negative is to test for antibodies? Add in the fact that 30-40% of those infected w/ Covid are asymptomatic (all age ranges) and I'm curious.

Interesting side note: a friend of mine in the assisted living biz had a fairly healthy woman in her early 70's go tits up in a couple days w/ Covid while a frail 90's gal tested positive and was asymptomatic. Alien indeed.

I really believe your outcome w/ this disease is dose specific. Everything else is a distant second. They've proven as much with influenza.

If your wife comes home loaded up w/ the virus from work (like MVJ's did), then proceeds to climb into bed with you and breathe on you all night, you're gonna get sicker than a dog (as MVJ did).

The moral of the story is: wear that mask as much as possible, and your odds of having a bad go greatly diminish.

[ShockerFever]

Because I got Covid-like symptoms after visiting the chiropractor, quarantined for 10 days, tested negative during, and the best way of knowing whether or not I got a false negative is to test for antibodies? Add in the fact that 30-40% of those infected w/ Covid are asymptomatic (all age ranges) and I'm curious.

Interesting side note: a friend of mine in the assisted living biz had a fairly healthy woman in her early 70's go tits up in a couple days w/ Covid while a frail 90's gal tested positive and was asymptomatic. Alien indeed.

I really believe your outcome w/ this disease is dose specific. Everything else is a distant second. They've proven as much with influenza.

If your wife comes home loaded up w/ the virus from work (like MVJ's did), then proceeds to climb into bed with you and breathe on you all night, you're gonna get sicker than a dog (as MVJ did).

The moral of the story is: wear that mask as much as possible, and your odds of having a bad go greatly diminish.

What if the antibody test is a false negative?