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  • Originally posted by pinstripers View Post
    oops, read it wrong
    Hahaha 👍

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    • Originally posted by WuDrWu View Post
      Back in the day, they would simply let Austin rub some dirt on it and get back in there.

      Not so today. I know we're all concerned about his long term health, as he and his family most certainly should be.

      I won't be surprised if we've seen the last of him for the season. Not predicting mind you, just my thought based on repetitive injuries with today's information. I want the young man to be right. I'm certain he's chomping at the bit to get back out there, but that's what family and doctors are there to protect against.....the perceived invincibility of youth.


      My percieived invincibility of youth ended during my first formation flight in flight school. I made an appointment with the Base Legal to make out a will. :)

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      • Originally posted by WuDrWu View Post
        Back in the day, they would simply let Austin rub some dirt on it and get back in there.

        Not so today. I know we're all concerned about his long term health, as he and his family most certainly should be.

        I won't be surprised if we've seen the last of him for the season. Not predicting mind you, just my thought based on repetitive injuries with today's information. I want the young man to be right. I'm certain he's chomping at the bit to get back out there, but that's what family and doctors are there to protect against.....the perceived invincibility of youth.
        He needs to get as right and healthy as he can. If surgery can be a big plus to getting right, better to do it now than after additional injuries. If it requires he RS next year with very limited contact (if any), that is what he should do. WSU basketball will be just fine and will be even better in the future with a healthy Austin Reaves.

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        • Originally posted by Jhook89 View Post
          There goes any dream of Austin bulking up over the off season.
          Why do you say that? Not that I'm disagreeing, but have you read something or know something that indicates his injury is more severe than what Sully reported?

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          • Originally posted by Bluzrover View Post
            Why do you say that? Not that I'm disagreeing, but have you read something or know something that indicates his injury is more severe than what Sully reported?
            I haven't gone back and reread everything or listened to the podcast of the coach's show, but what I recall is that there is mention of some surgery after the season is over. The shoulder that's popping out now is the one that was operated on after his So year in HS, not the one he had surgery on last spring.

            Maybe there have been some advancements in the surgery used, or maybe there is access to better surgeons now. I have a lot of confidence that the people making these decisions will do a lot of research and be well-informed before any decisions are made.
            The future's so bright - I gotta wear shades.
            We like to cut down nets and get sized for championship rings.

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            • Originally posted by Bluzrover View Post
              Why do you say that? Not that I'm disagreeing, but have you read something or know something that indicates his injury is more severe than what Sully reported?
              I think that he is thinking that after surgery, he won't be able to lift heavy weights for a while because of recuperation time but we don't know how long he will have to heal prior to lifting heavy weights that are required to bulk up (shoulders are iffy).

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              • Not sure that the experience of any Shockernetters or their offspring in bulking up is all that relevant. More relevant would be Austin's gene pool. I recall seeing a picture of his Dad and he definitely wasn't a skinny guy. His brother Spencer who is a Junior at Central Missouri is listed at 6-3, 195. None of that guarantees Austin can bulk up but it might be a bit more revealing that comaprisons to unrelated parties. Austin is not all that skinny in his lower body but he has not had the physical problems that would have prevented him from developing his lower body. Clearly his shoulder injury/surgery history have been a consistent road block to Austin bulding up his upper body.

                That said I certainly don't know that just building up his upper body will eliminate the issues he has with his shoulders. Seems like it should, but I don't think there is any guarantee of that.

                Who knows maybe the reason for signing SHJ out of Hutch Juco was primarily an insurance policy against Austin being on the shelf or maybe taking a redshirt year.

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                • AR's Shoulder Issues

                  Last fall after Austin dislocated his shoulder in an early game, there was a considerable amount of discussion about it. At one point, someone posted the fact that there is a way to tighten up the shoulder joint through some means, perhaps exercise, so that it is less vulnerable to future dislocations. I thought that was interestingm, but that was the last I heard about it. It would be interesting if that poster could illuminate us further on the matter.

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                  • Paul Suellentrop ‏@PaulS:uellentrop 3h
                    3 hours ago


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                    Austin Reaves won't practice today. Won't play Wednesday at Drake, WSU coach Gregg Marshall said.

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                    • I remember when Rob Kampman was here, Turgeon was trying to get him to bulk up. They tried everything. Diet (high-prote4in, high calorie) offset by exercise - and nothing worked. I remember Turgeon making a comment that some guys hjust can't bulk up.
                      The future's so bright - I gotta wear shades.
                      We like to cut down nets and get sized for championship rings.

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                      • Originally posted by Aargh View Post
                        I remember when Rob Kampman was here, Turgeon was trying to get him to bulk up. They tried everything. Diet (high-prote4in, high calorie) offset by exercise - and nothing worked. I remember Turgeon making a comment that some guys hjust can't bulk up.
                        It takes some guys an incredible amount of effort to bulk up. Take Whit Merrifield with the Royals, in order to bulk up he had to eat 7 big meals a day + the workouts to gain about 20 pounds of muscle mass last offseason.
                        Its a good landing if you can walk away, its a great landing if the plane can be reused the next day.

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                        • Originally posted by pinstripers View Post
                          Paul Suellentrop ‏@PaulS:uellentrop 3h
                          3 hours ago


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                          Austin Reaves won't practice today. Won't play Wednesday at Drake, WSU coach Gregg Marshall said.

                          Yep. I feel so bad for this kid....he's so flipping good.

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                          • If there is a very high chance that a year off would almost cure this issue, I would totally be for redshirting. I guess he could give it a go and if it looks bad in the first few games, then you could try a medical R.S... risky though. Just never know. I would love 3 full healthy years of this guy.

                            Just sucks the big one.
                            "When life hands you lemons, make lemonade." Better have some sugar and water too, or else your lemonade will suck!

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                            • Originally posted by Bluzrover View Post
                              Why do you say that? Not that I'm disagreeing, but have you read something or know something that indicates his injury is more severe than what Sully reported?
                              Basically what everyone else has already hit on. Coach alluded to Austin needing surgery at some point. If they push it to the off-season he won't be able to hit the weights since his arm will be in a sling.

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                              • Could be just me, but I often wonder with an injury like this, is it possible that it's a bad enough injury to sit through a couple of games we should be able to win and get as healthy as possible for IlSU, but also bad enough that if it was the NCAA tourney and it was win or go home, he'd be ready to go if necessary? Or is it bad enough that there's no way in hell he could play regardless of what game it was? I wonder is @ARShocker: is still around and could shed any light on it.
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