Landry Shamet Injured

[wusphlash]

I see a Kirk Gibson/Willis Reed scenario.

[Dave Stalwart]

If Landry Shamet comes back on, say, February 15th versus New Mexico State in the makeup game, he will be able to play in 8 games through St. Louis plus anything that happens in the dance.

If the Shockers make a nice run, he may still have 8-14 games he could play in this year along with the few he already played in at the start of the year. There's a lot of season left if he is able to get on the floor in the first half of February.

[1972Shocker]

I have high expectations for Landry Shamet as a Shocker. However, I am not sure we aren't setting expectations too high as to what he can do for this year's team if he does return.

When Ron Baker came back from his injury for the Valley Tournament he had a redshirt year and 10 D-1 games under his belt including games against VCU, Iowa, Tulsa and Tennessee. Obviously, they made the right decision in Ron's case.

Landry OTOH has 3 D-1 games under his belt as a true freshman with no additional prep school experience. He put up 22 points, 7 rebounds, 5 assists, 2 turnovers and 2 steals in 49 total minutes against Charleston Southern and Emporia State (games where Fred played a total of 3 minutes). Against Tulsa with a less than fully functioning Fred playing 30 minutes Landry had 4 points, 1 rebound, 0 assists, 1 turnover and 3 steals in 10 minutes of play. If Landry does come back let's hope we can get him back for a handful of games at the end of the regular season because quite frankly he has very little experience at this point and that would be very valuable for him.

Maybe Landry could be a difference maker if he comes back but that is a big burden to put on a kid with such little experience but it would be a great story if we did have a Ron Baker redux.

[shockmonster]

Gregg wanted this kid on his team when he was a Junior in highschool. He's been waiting to get Landry in the roster for 2 years, he will play if he's healthy, and he will get minutes.

Landry is on the level of Fred VanVleet in terms of leadership/dedication/intelligence, he will take people's minutes if he's healthy.

This is a logical possible scenario. I hope that most of you are right and Landry comes back and dominates. He definitely has the talent to be a very good player.

[shockmonster]

I have high expectations for Landry Shamet as a Shocker. However, I am not sure we aren't setting expectations as to what he can do for this year's team if he does return.

When Ron Baker came back from his injury for the Valley Tournament he had a redshirt year and 10 D-1 games under his belt including games against VCU, Iowa, Tulsa and Tennessee. Obviously, they made the right decision in Ron's case.

Landry OTOH has 3 D-1 games under his belt as a true freshman with no additional prep school experience. He put up 22 points, 7 rebounds, 5 assists, 2 turnovers and 2 steals in 49 total minutes against Charleston Southern and Emporia State (games where Fred played a total of 3 minutes). Against Tulsa with Fred playing 30 minutes Landry had 4 points, 1 rebound, 0 assists, 1 turnover and 3 steals in 10 minutes of play. If Landry does come back let's hope we can get him back for a handful of games at the end of the regular season because quite frankly he has very little experience at this point and that would be very valuable for him.

Maybe Landry could be a difference maker if he comes back but that is a big burden to put on a kid with such little experience but it would be a great story if we did have a Ron Baker redux.

This is a very smart post.

[AZ Shocker]

Am I the only one concerned about the large screw implanted in a small bone??? Many a player over the years in this game of basketball have had that same type of implant never to totally recover getting themselves back to the type of athlete they once were.

Not that I don't think there's a good chance for him to still be a great athlete. Holding out hope!!!

[wufan]

Honestly, I don't think Landey will be here for his senior year. Maybe we can get an extra dozen games out of him.

[Blackmag]

I see Landry as a four year player, helping us to another Final Four, he will be that good in time. Mcduffie and Landry, Austin Reeves, I think we have another nucleus we can build around much like Ron and Fred...

[WSUwatcher]

Family economics and draft prospects can always have an impact, of course -- but it isn't clear to me why, if Buddy Hield and Denzel Valentine and Perry Ellis ended up being four year players, anyone thinks Landry Shamet would not be. And, yes, I know that Shamet is blessed with Marshall for his coach and the others aren't. But it still seems quite a leap of faith.

[ShockdaWorld]

Family economics and draft prospects can always have an impact, of course -- but it isn't clear to me why, if Buddy Hield and Denzel Valentine and Perry Ellis ended up being four year players, anyone thinks Landry Shamet would not be. And, yes, I know that Shamet is blessed with Marshall for his coach and the others aren't. But it still seems quite a leap of faith.

Really. I mean, it's not like he's Melo "Pee Down My Leg" Trimble or Kelly "I Was Sleep" Oubre.

[im4wsu]

Just reading an article about Tad Boyle at Colorado and recruiting and found this tidbit --

The Buffs have been in the top two or three for some high level players, and they always fall just short. Tyler Dorsey is a prime example, Landry Shamet is another

[shocka khan]

Am I the only one concerned about the large screw implanted in a small bone??? Many a player over the years in this game of basketball have had that same type of implant never to totally recover getting themselves back to the type of athlete they once were.

Not that I don't think there's a good chance for him to still be a great athlete. Holding out hope!!!

I had a very serious accident in 1997. Broke and dislocated my Lisfranc joint, 3 toes, crushed the largest nerve bundle in my foot and was in a wheelchair for 6 months.

I had two screws on each side of the bone in my big toe to hold it all together.

The doctor got pissed at me because I was driving (it was my right foot), but after 6 months, it's a little difficult to get people to haul you around.

He got his revenge by telling me right before he put me under (to take the screws out of my big toe) that if they were bent, they were staying right there.

I woke up without the screws. I had to go through a lot of rehab (that's about the time I started riding a bike 6,000 miles a year), but other than the lack of an arch in my right foot (it also took a divot out of that bone), I am walking fine.

What Landry's been through is not as bad. He'll be as good as new if he listens to the trainers.

[AZ Shocker]

I had a very serious accident in 1997. Broke and dislocated my Lisfranc joint, 3 toes, crushed the largest nerve bundle in my foot and was in a wheelchair for 6 months.

I had two screws on each side of the bone in my big toe to hold it all together.

The doctor got pissed at me because I was driving (it was my right foot), but after 6 months, it's a little difficult to get people to haul you around.

He got his revenge by telling me right before he put me under (to take the screws out of my big toe) that if they were bent, they were staying right there.

I woke up without the screws. I had to go through a lot of rehab (that's about the time I started riding a bike 6,000 miles a year), but other than the lack of an arch in my right foot (it also took a divot out of that bone), I am walking fine.

What Landry's been through is not as bad. He'll be as good as new if he listens to the trainers.

Ouch Shocka Khan. Great job gettibg yourself back together. I had a favorite player for a while who won the NBA dunk contest years ago who had the screw(s) put in. Never the high flying athelete again. But...if memory serves...I believe his screws were holding his ankle together. Laundry's isnt as drastic but still gives me pause thinking about it. Thanks for yoyr personal story. Defintely gives me hope!

[ShockerPrez]

I see Landry as a four year player, helping us to another Final Four, he will be that good in time. Mcduffie and Landry, Austin Reeves, I think we have another nucleus we can build around much like Ron and Fred...

1000% agree.

[SB Shock]

I can think of reasons why he does come back and play this year. Maybe he doesn't want or need to attend 5 years of college. Maybe he wants to be part of something special this year. Post-season opportunities are never "sure thing", do you turn down an opportunity now (as a role player) in the hopes for "bigger opportunity" down the road (where maybe you are vital cog)?