2014-15 Games of Interest

[Dave Stalwart]

Big 12 didn't look that strong again today...

[1972Shocker]

Vanderbilt 76 @ Alabama 68

Not a great day for Shocker opponents.

[wusphlash]

Vanderbilt 76 @ Alabama 68

Not a great day for Shocker opponents.

This season is turning into the Anthony Grant farewell tour I'm afraid. Would we want him in the MVC? He has had success elsewhere and does exhibit class.

[Dave Stalwart]

This season is turning into the Anthony Grant farewell tour I'm afraid. Would we want him in the MVC? He has had success elsewhere and does exhibit class.

YES. We'll probably have Mcdermott, Webber and Lowery again soon anyway. Let's get Grant and Jans, too.

[ShockTalk]

This season is turning into the Anthony Grant farewell tour I'm afraid. Would we want him in the MVC? He has had success elsewhere and does exhibit class.

I would.

Even though he has had a few close wins (closer than they should have been), he's also had a number of close losses: @wsu: by 1, @ S Car by 2, @ Ark by 2 in OT, vs FL by 2, but this one today really hurts him.

[ShockTalk]

YES. We'll probably have Mcdermott, Webber and Lowery again soon anyway. Let's get Grant and Jans, too.

I'd take Grant over Wookie, Webber, Jank, and Lowery any day.

[Dave Stalwart]

I'd take Grant over Wookie, Webber, Jank, and Lowery any day.

The better question is would you take Grant, Wookie, Webber, Lowery and Jank over Lusk, Moser, Ford, Simmons or Hinson.

I wouldn't mind seeing some of those other guys as well if it meant I was trading some of the folks we've got.

Also, I meant Chris Jans originally. But I had forgotten about Jank, so that was a good reminder and he definitely fits the re-tread bill. He'll probably find his way back someday.

[Dave Stalwart]

After this week, I'd say there are only 3 big 12 teams that even deserve to be ranked. I'm sorry but it's just time.

The loss to TCU by Okay State is what does it for me. Well that team just beat Baylor a few days ago. Meanwhile Okay U loses to K-State tonight. All these "ranked" big 12 teams have a ton of losses and a lot of questions around them. I'm just not buying it.

[wusphlash]

After this week, I'd say there are only 3 big 12 teams that even deserve to be ranked. I'm sorry but it's just time.

The loss to TCU by Okay State is what does it for me. Well that team just beat Baylor a few days ago. Meanwhile Okay U loses to K-State tonight. All these "ranked" big 12 teams have a ton of losses and a lot of questions around them. I'm just not buying it.

Well, the B12-2 did dominate the initial football playoff.

[ShockTalk]

The better question is would you take Grant, Wookie, Webber, Lowery and Jank over Lusk, Moser, Ford, Simmons or Hinson.

I wouldn't mind seeing some of those other guys as well if it meant I was trading some of the folks we've got.

Also, I meant Chris Jans originally. But I had forgotten about Jank, so that was a good reminder and he definitely fits the re-tread bill. He'll probably find his way back someday.

Wookie, Lowery, Jank, and, you left off, Muller are just like Lusk, Moser, Simmons, and apparently Ford. I'm probably just being hard on Webber, but I just don't care for him. I don't know about Hinson. Simmons and Moser are probably as good as it gets for their programs. If I was Jans, I wouldn't come back to the Valley unless it us, UNI, or maybe Bradley. The rest would be a lateral move or worse.

[WuDrWu]

YES. We'll probably have Mcdermott, Webber and Lowery again soon anyway. Let's get Grant and Jans, too.

Speaking of Chris Jans, he won again today (on the road), is alone in 1st place in the MAC and their RPI has climbed to 51. Now THAT'S a job well done.

[Dave Stalwart]

Wookie, Lowery, Jank, and, you left off, Muller are just like Lusk, Moser, Simmons, and apparently Ford. I'm probably just being hard on Webber, but I just don't care for him. I don't know about Hinson. Simmons and Moser are probably as good as it gets for their programs. If I was Jans, I wouldn't come back to the Valley unless it us, UNI, or maybe Bradley. The rest would be a lateral move or worse.

Bradley would be perfect. I'll take Grant at MoST (in that part of the country they might not even realize it isn't still Gonzo the day Grant walks in... Okay sorry for that comment...) and Jans at Bradley. That would halfway fix the conference right there. Give me Webber and Lowery all over again at SIU and McDermott at Loyola for the ultimate irony. Now we're back in business.

Who do I need to call to get good old Keno Davis back? Where can we stick him? Illinois St? Evansville?

EDIT: Found him. He's at Central Michigan... Leading the MAC along with Chris Jans. RPI of 100. Yes that's the same MAC that is a better league than the MVC overall this year.

[Dave Stalwart]

Speaking of Chris Jans, he won again today (on the road), is alone in 1st place in the MAC and their RPI has climbed to 51. Now THAT'S a job well done.

I'll admit, it's becoming evident that he is even better than I ever gave him credit for. He's going to have that team in the dance in his first season. That is nuts.

[WuDrWu]

I'll admit, it's becoming evident that he is even better than I ever gave him credit for. He's going to have that team in the dance in his first season. That is nuts.

Well I won't go that far, he's still going to have to win the conference tourney to get in, but if he can win the league then the team gets like a triple bye to the semis making it a lot easier to win.

[ShockerPrez]

After this week, I'd say there are only 3 big 12 teams that even deserve to be ranked. I'm sorry but it's just time.

The loss to TCU by Okay State is what does it for me. Well that team just beat Baylor a few days ago. Meanwhile Okay U loses to K-State tonight. All these "ranked" big 12 teams have a ton of losses and a lot of questions around them. I'm just not buying it.

The Big 12 will get their 7 in again and pile up another years worth of NCAA underachievement based on their seeds they will get.

Maybe 1 will have the bracket break in their favor and they will get to the elite 8. But it won't be because they beat a higher seeded team. It will be the result of a previous round upset that benefits them.

And no one will speak of it.

Conversely, WSU and UNI will get bullshit draws, play great games and lose. And all will say how overrated we were and don't play anyone in the regular season.