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  • "Wichita State has won every game this season, and their best basketball is still to come."

    Wichita State has won every game this season, and their best basketball is still to come.

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    • Not any kind of love for the Shocks when you are talking about Douggie Gottlieb who was at it again on inside college basketball after the game. Seth Davis said that if the Shockers run the table they should be a one seed. This started Douggie on his soapbox about our schedule and being overrated. Seth then asks him if they pass the eye test and Douggie basically says no and mentions that he saw them against St. Louis. You can tell that Seth is disgusted at this point and mentions something about politics and religion as if to say this is one of the things that they should not discuss at the dinner table. Wally Szerberbiak told Douggie he was wrong but in his usual fashion Douggie mentioned Kansas and some other BCS schools that are better. I will try and find a clip.

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      • The other nugget that Douggie left us with was even if the Shocks went undefeated they should be no better than a 2 and maybe even a 3.

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        • Somebody needs to tell Douggie that at least we can shoot Free Throws and manage to put our shorts on correctly.

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          • Wow that dude is pissing me off

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            • He has to be trolling at this point.

              The Shockers are getting tons of buzz and I guess he wants to draw attention with his shtick.

              I think it does us well to have this kind criticism to fight against. Lord knows the Valley isn't giving us much to get worked up about.
              "Don't measure yourself by what you have accomplished, but by what you should accomplish with your ability."
              -John Wooden

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              • Originally posted by The Cat View Post
                The other nugget that Douggie left us with was even if the Shocks went undefeated they should be no better than a 2 and maybe even a 3.
                For a guy that did some of our Tournament games last year...you'd think he'd know better. Total BCS politics and reminds me of the same mind set as Billy Packer a few years back. Lets just win it all and prove him wrong...he probably eats crow about as well as he used to shoot.

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                • Originally posted by Shockthemonkey View Post
                  Not really love but part of the problem. Buried in the Fast Five article From Seth Davis: For the time being, I have decided that even if Wichita State keeps winning, I will not rank the Shockers higher than No. 5 on my ballot. The same will likely apply to the Aztecs; they've gone high enough. However, there is a lot of basketball to be played between now and the start of the tournament, and if the other top-five teams fall by the wayside and these two mighty mid-majors keep winning, then it will be hard to keep them down.

                  Read More: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/col...#ixzz2rKkrTowy
                  I will be interested to see how many pollsters have Florida jump us tomorrow considering their wins this week were both teams we've already beat.

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                  • I think Dougie G likes to take the dissenting opinion, which is why he picked WSU to the final four last year. Now that we have some buzz, the dissenting opinion is to pick us to flounder a bit.
                    Livin the dream

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                    • He thinks the shockers are great at just about everything (very complimentary tweets last night). With that said he doesn't bekeive they are one of the top four teams in the country. He gets paid to explain and defend his opinions. Last checked, KenPom has us as the seventh best team so his position Doug's position isn't crazy.

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                      • Originally posted by proshox View Post
                        He thinks the shockers are great at just about everything (very complimentary tweets last night). With that said he doesn't bekeive they are one of the top four teams in the country. He gets paid to explain and defend his opinions. Last checked, KenPom has us as the seventh best team so his position Doug's position isn't crazy.
                        Both Sagarin and Kenpom's numbers are blunted by the fact that we've been putting our walk ons in for significant minutes. If we would have been running up the score like certain other teams we would be top four. Easily.

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                        • Whatever we were ranked when we played St. Louis, Dougie didn't think we were that good then either.

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                          • Originally posted by proshox View Post
                            He thinks the shockers are great at just about everything (very complimentary tweets last night). With that said he doesn't bekeive they are one of the top four teams in the country. He gets paid to explain and defend his opinions. Last checked, KenPom has us as the seventh best team so his position Doug's position isn't crazy.
                            He was pretty vocal about us not being a Top 10 team either but maybe he's caved on that a bit.

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                            • Originally posted by The Cat View Post
                              Not any kind of love for the Shocks when you are talking about Douggie Gottlieb who was at it again on inside college basketball after the game. Seth Davis said that if the Shockers run the table they should be a one seed. This started Douggie on his soapbox about our schedule and being overrated. Seth then asks him if they pass the eye test and Douggie basically says no and mentions that he saw them against St. Louis. You can tell that Seth is disgusted at this point and mentions something about politics and religion as if to say this is one of the things that they should not discuss at the dinner table. Wally Szerberbiak told Douggie he was wrong but in his usual fashion Douggie mentioned Kansas and some other BCS schools that are better. I will try and find a clip.
                              It takes a special kind of idiot to use a road win over a top 25 team as proof that you don't belong.

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                              • Originally posted by Shock Therapy View Post
                                Both Sagarin and Kenpom's numbers are blunted by the fact that we've been putting our walk ons in for significant minutes. If we would have been running up the score like certain other teams we would be top four. Easily.
                                We could probably be number 2 in kenpom. There's not much difference between us and Creighton, his current number 2 team. Against kenpom top 100 competition, sCUm outscores them by an average of 8.6 points per game. WSU outscores top 100 competition by 10.4 points per game. The entire difference is that they keep in their starters and crush bad teams.

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