Poll Watch (2013-14 Edition)

[WuShock Reaper]

Looks like Dickie V changed his mind after last night's tweet and put us at #4 after all.

Good man.

Dickie V. didn't change his mind, that was a shot fake! Pretty good for a 74 year old man?

[SHOCKvalue]

Remove KU from the equation. In the last 10 years, the Big 12 has had:
12 Sweet 16's (averaging more than 1 per year)
8 of those made the Elite 8
1 of those made the Final 4

Everyone in the Big 12 outside of KU is garbage. Yep. Definitely. Right on!

I'm really trying to comprehend how sad and pathetic your personal and/or professional life must be, what with your full conversion to a poster who contributes nothing to this forum but antagonism. I'm not trying to say that you don't ever have a point, but good grief all you do now is go around and try to start arguments in conversations you weren't previously involved in.

I got into it with you ONE time, over what I would guess was about a mere FOUR post back-and-forth, and you tried to continue the argument via PM's, since I had ignored you in the open forum. Can't imagine how many posters you have PM harassed since that time. Several posters here must now have PM inboxes stuffed full with JH4P's harassing assclown messages.

Can we get an ignore function on SN? JH4P is the first poster in my years here that I would like to add to such a list.

[ShockerFever]

I'm really trying to comprehend how sad and pathetic your personal and/or professional life must be, what with your full conversion to a poster who contributes nothing to this forum but antagonism. I'm not trying to say that you don't ever have a point, but good grief all you do now is go around and try to start arguments in conversations you weren't previously involved in.

I got into it with you ONE time, over what I would guess was about a mere FOUR post back-and-forth, and you tried to continue the argument via PM's, since I had ignored you in the open forum. Can't imagine how many posters you have PM harassed since that time. Several posters here must now have PM inboxes stuffed full with JH4P's harassing assclown messages.

Can we get an ignore function on SN? JH4P is the first poster in my years here that I would like to add to such a list.

+1 on all accounts. I have been PM'ed too.

He definitely seems to have a soft spot for KU/Big 12.

I'm pretty sure if Jamar Howard ever did become president, he'd exile this guy to a foreign country, like Omaha.

[AndShock]

Nice to see Doug finally cracking. I expect Marcus Jackson to crack next week since he's the lowest. It's a cycle.

Marcus Jackson moved us up to #6 after having us at #13 last week. Bunch of sheep.

[Downtown Shocker Brown]

Remove KU from the equation. In the last 10 years, the Big 12 has had:
12 Sweet 16's (averaging more than 1 per year)
8 of those made the Elite 8
1 of those made the Final 4

Everyone in the Big 12 outside of KU is garbage. Yep. Definitely. Right on!

But if you exclude Kansas, which was his point, how many Final Fours are there? Oklahoma in 2003. Texas in 2004. Oklahoma State in 2004. That's it. Nothing in 8 years except for Kansas.

But during that time also, all the teams in the Big 12 have made a Sweet 16 except Colorado.

Oklahoma was Final Four, Missouri Elite 8, and Texas Sweet 16 in 2002.

Texas was Sweet 16 in 2004.

Oklahoma State and Texas Tech were Sweet 16 in 2005.

Texas was Sweet 16 in 2006.

Texas A&M was Sweet 16 in 2007.

Texas was Elite 8 in 2008.

Missouri and Oklahoma were Elite 8 in 2009.

Kansas State and Baylor were Elite 8 in 2010.

Baylor was Elite 8 in 2012.

How about the Valley?

Southern Illinois was Sweet 16 in 2002.

Wichita State and Bradley were Sweet 16 in 2006.

Southern Illinois was Sweet 16 in 2007.

Northern Iowa was Sweet 16 in 2010.

Wichita State was Final Four in 2013.

[jdmee]

But if you exclude Kansas, which was his point, how many Final Fours are there? Oklahoma in 2003. Texas in 2004. Oklahoma State in 2004. That's it. Nothing in 8 years except for Kansas.

But during that time also, all the teams in the Big 12 have made a Sweet 16 except Colorado.

Oklahoma was Final Four, Missouri Elite 8, and Texas Sweet 16 in 2002.
Texas was Sweet 16 in 2004.
Oklahoma State and Texas Tech were Sweet 16 in 2005.
Texas was Sweet 16 in 2006.
Texas A&M was Sweet 16 in 2007.
Texas was Elite 8 in 2008.
Missouri and Oklahoma were Elite 8 in 2009.
Kansas State and Baylor were Elite 8 in 2010.
Baylor was Elite 8 in 2012.

How about the Valley?

Southern Illinois was Sweet 16 in 2002.
Wichita State and Bradley were Sweet 16 in 2006.
Southern Illinois was Sweet 16 in 2007.
Northern Iowa was Sweet 16 in 2010.
Wichita State was Final Four in 2013.

In that list 2 Elite 8s and 1 Sweet 16 are no longer in the Big XII.

[jocoshock]

I'm really trying to comprehend how sad and pathetic your personal and/or professional life must be, what with your full conversion to a poster who contributes nothing to this forum but antagonism. I'm not trying to say that you don't ever have a point, but good grief all you do now is go around and try to start arguments in conversations you weren't previously involved in.

I got into it with you ONE time, over what I would guess was about a mere FOUR post back-and-forth, and you tried to continue the argument via PM's, since I had ignored you in the open forum. Can't imagine how many posters you have PM harassed since that time. Several posters here must now have PM inboxes stuffed full with JH4P's harassing assclown messages.

Can we get an ignore function on SN? JH4P is the first poster in my years here that I would like to add to such a list.

LOL... there actually is an IGNORE function. However, when you scroll througha thread, there are constant reminders that the person you are trying ignore has posted something that you are ignoring. Sooner or later, curiosity gets the best of you (or you get sick of being reminded), and you turn it off. :peaceful:

[The Cat]

Ron Morris has us at number 10 which is the lowest of all voters. When you look at the rest of the top 15 you have to wonder how in the world he came to some of his picks. He still has Wisconsin at 8, Oklahoma State at 6, and Louisville at 7. Apparently he quits watching college basketball on Friday and didn't catch a couple of losses over the weekend. As much as I despise KU having them at 12 is a bit low.

[shock]

Dickie V. didn't change his mind, that was a shot fake! Pretty good for a 74 year old man?

Even better than Barry's wife!

[jocoshock]

4th in the coaches poll with a good margin over Villanova.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaab/2014/01/20/top-25-stock-watch-wichita-state-climbs-to-best-ever-no-4-ranking/4659437/

The biggest winner of the poll, however, is undefeated and ultra-confident mid-major, Wichita State. The Shockers moved into the No. 4 slot, matching their best-ever ranking in the Coaches Poll — achieved in the last poll of 2013 by Gregg Marshall's final four team.

Wichita State will have some tricky road tests in the Missouri Valley in the weeks ahead, but for right now they look to have a shot at an unbeaten regular season. If they accomplish that feat, the case for a No. 1 seed in March seems inevitable.

Great picture of CLE on the front page of the NCAAB section of the Sport Section

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/ncaab/

[Shock Top]

This week's breakdown of AP votes.

I cannot respect anyones opinion, who has the Shox at #9 or #10..

All they have done since making the Final Four (and barely losing to the NC mind you), is win all of their games.

WHAT MORE DO THESE PLAYERS NEED TO DO FOR YOU?!?!?!

[AndShock]

Ron Morris has us at number 10 which is the lowest of all voters. When you look at the rest of the top 15 you have to wonder how in the world he came to some of his picks. He still has Wisconsin at 8, Oklahoma State at 6, and Louisville at 7. Apparently he quits watching college basketball on Friday and didn't catch a couple of losses over the weekend. As much as I despise KU having them at 12 is a bit low.

It's because he votes by snail mail.

[ShockerPrez]

Remove KU from the equation. In the last 10 years, the Big 12 has had:
12 Sweet 16's (averaging more than 1 per year)
8 of those made the Elite 8
1 of those made the Final 4

Everyone in the Big 12 outside of KU is garbage. Yep. Definitely. Right on!

They get half their teams in every year. Well pribably 48.66658 %.

What is the Big 12's winning % in the tournament. And what is the seed disparity of their wins vs defeats?

If you throw 5 or 6 teams per year, I would hope they would have some deep runs. Over 10 years, that is 50 or 60 bids and what,l out of 5 go to the sweet 16?

Yep. Power conference all right.

And 1 team wins the league every year.

[ShockerFever]

Wait, where'd BJ U go? I thought losses in the Big East were gonna be more respected? They basically got treated like they lost to Evansville on Saturday.

I guess that big, bad Big East isn't that big and bad after all?

Only 1 team in the Top 25? LMAO. Poor BJ U. And this was supposed to be their year to introduce themselves as "legitimate". Once again, this just proves, like predicted, that nobody gives a crap about that conference. Ouchies.

[Downtown Shocker Brown]

They get half their teams in every year. Well pribably 48.66658 %.

What is the Big 12's winning % in the tournament. And what is the seed disparity of their wins vs defeats?

If you throw 5 or 6 teams per year, I would hope they would have some deep runs. Over 10 years, that is 50 or 60 bids and what,l out of 5 go to the sweet 16?

Yep. Power conference all right.

And 1 team wins the league every year.

2013 - Big 12 3-5, MVC 5-2
2012 - Big 12 10-6, MVC 1-2
2011 - Big 12 5-5, MVC 0-1
2010 - Big 12 9-7, MVC 2-1
2009 - Big 12 11-6, MVC 0-1
2008 - Big 12 12-5, MVC 0-1
2007 - Big 12 6-4, MVC 2-2
2006 - Big 12 4-4, MVC 4-4
2005 - Big 12 6-6, MVC 1-3
2004 - Big 12 10-4, MVC 0-2
2003 - Big 12 16-6, MVC 0-2
2002 - Big 12 13-6, MVC 3-2