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  • #76
    Originally posted by Stickboy46 View Post
    Contracts by the themselves wont solve the problem .. might make it worse. There zero chance contracts would be allowed without some sort of buyout. The bigger higher dollar schools would just pay the buyouts. While that would slightly redistribute funds, its likely not enough to make an impact.

    If we are going pro model, then well we need to go pro model. Will have to have a Collective Bargaining Agreement, Salary caps and floors and equal revenue distribution.
    I'm sure someone will challenge the salary caps in court and win. Who's to say what a person is worth anymore?

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    • #77
      Originally posted by Stickboy46 View Post
      Contracts by the themselves wont solve the problem .. might make it worse. There zero chance contracts would be allowed without some sort of buyout. The bigger higher dollar schools would just pay the buyouts. While that would slightly redistribute funds, its likely not enough to make an impact.

      If we are going pro model, then well we need to go pro model. Will have to have a Collective Bargaining Agreement, Salary caps and floors and equal revenue distribution.
      Count me completely out of that nonsense. I will start attending middle school games and never watch another minute of college basketball.

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      • #78
        Originally posted by shoxlax View Post

        Count me completely out of that nonsense. I will start attending middle school games and never watch another minute of college basketball.
        You’re not alone. Makes my head hurt just thinking about it.

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        • #79


          NCAA continues to make this more confusing than it has to be ...

          Feel bad for anyone player that played last night under the previous guidance ...

          Also of note: The NCAA is pausing reviewing any existing waiver requests until after the 27th ... so this could end up just being a 2 week delay to getting a response to Degray's waiver at which point, does he even want to play this year if he doesn't get an answer until mid-late January.

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          • #80
            Originally posted by Kung Wu View Post

            Why not just have an _actual_ buy out?
            As in paying back tuition buy out? Someone like KU will just write a check on the kids behalf. That truly won’t solve the problem and is no better than what we have. They leave early, they sit a year…no waiver unless they went to a junior college. No matter how awful the player is, the program still has to live with them for two years and then can incentivize them staying with more NIL money from those BS collectives.

            It all started with the Senior grad transfers not having to sit out, which is silly in the first place since many grad programs that are worth a **** nowadays take two years to complete (unless that is part of the rule, that the program can be completed in a year). Whose bright idea was that?

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            • #81
              So no DeGray on Saturday.
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              • #82
                Originally posted by Stickboy46 View Post


                NCAA continues to make this more confusing than it has to be ...

                Feel bad for anyone player that played last night under the previous guidance ...

                Also of note: The NCAA is pausing reviewing any existing waiver requests until after the 27th ... so this could end up just being a 2 week delay to getting a response to Degray's waiver at which point, does he even want to play this year if he doesn't get an answer until mid-late January.

                Any player that played last night and their coach was naive to trust the NCAA.

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                • #83
                  Originally posted by Stickboy46 View Post
                  Anarchy.
                  Kung Wu say, man who read woman like book, prefer braille!

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                  • #84
                    Originally posted by shoxlax View Post

                    As in paying back tuition buy out? Someone like KU will just write a check on the kids behalf. That truly won’t solve the problem and is no better than what we have. They leave early, they sit a year…no waiver unless they went to a junior college. No matter how awful the player is, the program still has to live with them for two years and then can incentivize them staying with more NIL money from those BS collectives.

                    It all started with the Senior grad transfers not having to sit out, which is silly in the first place since many grad programs that are worth a **** nowadays take two years to complete (unless that is part of the rule, that the program can be completed in a year). Whose bright idea was that?
                    Kung Wu say, man who read woman like book, prefer braille!

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                    • #85
                      Originally posted by shoxlax View Post
                      It all started with the Senior grad transfers not having to sit out, which is silly in the first place since many grad programs that are worth a **** nowadays take two years to complete (unless that is part of the rule, that the program can be completed in a year). Whose bright idea was that?
                      I’m sure TP put a lot of consideration into the fine graduate program at West Virginia University, and it swayed him to go there. I know he’s really burning the candle at both ends to get that master’s degree.
                      78-65

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                      • #86
                        Here’s another thought, although it would require the NCAA to demolish all existing conferences but perhaps could restore fandom: run all sports like the European Soccer leagues where teams can rise and fall into the different levels based upon performance from year to year. Have 3 levels and it’s based on teams and sports, not the entire school. For example, WSU might be in the Premier league for Softball but the Mid level league for basketball, etc.

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                        • #87
                          Originally posted by SubGod22 View Post
                          So no DeGray on Saturday.
                          ?????????????? Who knows. If we don't have clarity on eligibility question that's a tough call. What would you do if you were Ronnie DeGray?

                          Why the NCAA simply cannot come out and say this will or it will not impact eligibility is beyond me. Just take a position one way or the other. The uncertainty is worse than a decision your disagree with.
                          Last edited by 1972Shocker; December 14, 2023, 04:03 PM.

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                          • #88
                            Originally posted by shoxlax View Post

                            Any player that played last night and their coach was naive to trust the NCAA.
                            No worries, P5 players will be exempt.
                            Kung Wu say, man who read woman like book, prefer braille!

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                            • #89
                              Originally posted by Dan View Post
                              Here’s another thought, although it would require the NCAA to demolish all existing conferences but perhaps could restore fandom: run all sports like the European Soccer leagues where teams can rise and fall into the different levels based upon performance from year to year. Have 3 levels and it’s based on teams and sports, not the entire school. For example, WSU might be in the Premier league for Softball but the Mid level league for basketball, etc.
                              Welcome to finally catching up to what I have been spouting for the past 100 years. The rest of the world solved this problem a looooooooooong time ago. And you will need more than 3 levels to do it right.
                              Kung Wu say, man who read woman like book, prefer braille!

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                              • #90
                                Originally posted by Kung Wu View Post

                                Welcome to finally catching up to what I have been spouting for the past 100 years. The rest of the world solved this problem a looooooooooong time ago. And you will need more than 3 levels to do it right.
                                Damn, you’re old.

                                IKBIC

                                78-65

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