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Originally posted by C0|dB|00ded
Who else posts fake **** all day in order to maintain the acrimony? Wingnuts, that's who.
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Originally posted by ABC View PostLet me repeat : many pundits have said the current AAC is a better football conference than the B12 w/o OU and UT. If I am Cincy, Memphis, UCF or USF, I don't think it is a easy decision to make the move.
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Originally posted by shock View Post
I saw this in a media rights thread on some conference board right after the OU/TU news broke. With OSU (under the current earning structure) it’s something like 12m per school. If OSU is picked up it drops to about 7m per school. I think the AAC deal is worth 5m per school.
edit: the conference as it stands is at 37m per school. That means OU/TU are figured to generate 67% (250m) of the income (370m) if those numbers reported are correct. Based on how all this went down, I have no reason to doubt it.
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Originally posted by C0|dB|00ded View Post
But it just isn't. It's common sense. Viewership is anywhere between 60-80% greater w/ the B12 teams w/o OU/TU.People who think they know everything are a great annoyance to those of us who do. -Isaac Asimov
Originally posted by C0|dB|00ded
Who else posts fake **** all day in order to maintain the acrimony? Wingnuts, that's who.
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Originally posted by wichshock65 View PostI can't imagine any program that would actually bolster the Big 8 would even consider joining. Everyone besides the Big 8 thinks they will soon fail to exist. Who would be crazy enough to do that? Am I missing something?
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Originally posted by C0|dB|00ded View Post
Every single AAC school would leave within 5 seconds to the Big 8/10/12... whatever.
People who think they know everything are a great annoyance to those of us who do. -Isaac Asimov
Originally posted by C0|dB|00ded
Who else posts fake **** all day in order to maintain the acrimony? Wingnuts, that's who.
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Originally posted by Rocky Mountain Shock View Post
My thinking as well. Anyone willing to join the Big 8 right now is not attractive enough for that conference. They are in quite a pickle.FINAL FOURS:
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Originally posted by shock View Post
He said better football, not viewership. Viewership can be manipulated.
Brand name programs get maximum exposure because they're popular. And they are popular because they get maximum exposure.
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Originally posted by C0|dB|00ded View Post
But it just isn't. It's common sense. Viewership is anywhere between 60-80% greater w/ the B12 teams w/o OU/TU.
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Realistically, we are looking at a Mexican standoff. I imagine money will be the primary factor for all those involved or even potentially involved:- the AAC and MWC teams that could move to the Big 12 (Cincinnati may appeal to the ACC as well)
- the Big 12 teams that could flee to the B1G
- WVU, who could flee to the ACC
- The rest of the Big 12, that are looking to the Pac-12
- the AAC teams that don't have prospects to jump conferences right now
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Media markets still play a part.
AAC
4 - Philadelphia
5 - Dallas-Ft. Worth
8 - Houston
13 - Tampa
17 - Orlando
36 - Cincinnati
50 - New Orleans
51 - Memphis
61 - Tulsa
70 - Wichita
There's a lot of growth potential with this lineup
Big 8
5 - DFW
26 - Pittsburgh (WVU)
34 - Kansas City
44 - Oklahoma City
68 - Des Moines-Ames
83 - Waco
142 - Topeka
145 - Lubbock
MWC
6 - San Francisco-San Jose
27 - San Diego
40 - Las Vegas
48 - Albuquerque-Sante Fe
55 - Fresno
67 - Honolulu
82 - Colorado Springs-Pueblo
101 - Boise
104 - Reno
195 - Cheyenne
These obviously aren't be all end all, but it's hard to sell if there is no market. And few of these schools truly draw a national audience on a regular basis. Some will pull more than just their market. But it's still about exposure and if ESPN continues to push the AAC it sets the conference up will for future negotiations. And if the AAC out performs the Big 8, it goes even further. The AAC is generally located in larger metro areas with more TVs and more eyeballs. .
You add WVU, KU, OSU, ISU and Baylor to get to 16 and you better both revenue generating sports and add five more top 100 markets, three of those top 50 to add to the seven already in the AAC. You got to go quite a ways west to get comparable markets for either the AAC or Big 8.
I'm obviously bored at work today and just thinking about possibilities. We have a long time to think about and wait to see what's going to happen though, so might as well have some fun.
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Originally posted by C0|dB|00ded View Post
Brand name programs get maximum exposure because they're popular. And they are popular because they get maximum exposure.
Infinity Art Glass - Fantastic local artist and Shocker fan
RIP Guy Always A Shocker
Carpenter Place - A blessing to many young girls/women
ICT S.O.S - Great local cause fighting against human trafficking
Wartick Insurance Agency - Saved me money with more coverage.
Save Shocker Sports - A rallying cry
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