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Is Houston a "lock" because they've won 20 games? Or is it because they beat a .500 Big-12 team (Texas Tech)??? They're super good no doubt...but they also have a couple what we be deemd as "bad losses" in Tulsa and East Carolina.FINAL FOURS:
1965, 2013
NCAA Tournament:
1964, 1965, 1976, 1981, 1985, 1987, 1988, 2006, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018, 2021
NIT Champs - 1 (2011)
AP Poll History of Wichita St:
Number of Times Ranked: 157
Number of Times Ranked #1: 1
Number of Times Top 5: 32 (Most Recent - 2017)
Number of Times Top 10: 73 (Most Recent - 2013, 2014, 2015, 2017)
Highest Recent AP Ranking:
#3 - Dec. 2017
#2 ~ March 2014
Highest Recent Coaches Poll Ranking:
#2 ~ March 2014
Finished 2013 Season #4
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9Originally posted by AZ Shocker View PostIs Houston a "lock" because they've won 20 games? Or is it because they beat a .500 Big-12 team (Texas Tech)??? They're super good no doubt...but they also have a couple what we be deemd as "bad losses" in Tulsa and East Carolina.
Currently they are 2-1 (Q1), 4-1 (Q2), 9-1 (Q3) and 4-0 (Q-4). Houston is ranked #3 in the RPI. Houston's non-con SOS is 92.
In any case, Houston should be a lock.
The Shocks are 2-2 (Q1), 2-2 (Q-2) 5-0 (Q3) and 2-0 (Q4) with a non-con SOS of 23. Our net ranking is currently #66 but our RPI has us #18. I guess the net doesn't like close wins. Not sure what explains the disrepancy between our NET and RPI while Houston's rankings in these two metrics are nearly the same.
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That damn NET thing again. Lol.
Of course they should be a lock. :) I was simply looking at their schedule and didn't see much difference as to who they beat and lost to. Compared to ours it seems to not really be anything to write home about. Ole' Miss and Texas Tech are both .500 in conference play. Maybe the Texas Tech home win for Houston is perceived better than our 'Ole Miss road win. Or maybe that 66 point win Houston had on Feb. 6 over Lady of the Lake was the clincher. ;)FINAL FOURS:
1965, 2013
NCAA Tournament:
1964, 1965, 1976, 1981, 1985, 1987, 1988, 2006, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018, 2021
NIT Champs - 1 (2011)
AP Poll History of Wichita St:
Number of Times Ranked: 157
Number of Times Ranked #1: 1
Number of Times Top 5: 32 (Most Recent - 2017)
Number of Times Top 10: 73 (Most Recent - 2013, 2014, 2015, 2017)
Highest Recent AP Ranking:
#3 - Dec. 2017
#2 ~ March 2014
Highest Recent Coaches Poll Ranking:
#2 ~ March 2014
Finished 2013 Season #4
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Originally posted by 1972Shocker View Post9
A net ranking of #4 may have something to do with it even though that metric seems to be producing screwball results this year.
Currently they are 2-1 (Q1), 4-1 (Q2), 9-1 (Q3) and 4-0 (Q-4). Houston is ranked #3 in the RPI. Houston's non-con SOS is 92.
In any case, Houston should be a lock.
The Shocks are 2-2 (Q1), 2-2 (Q-2) 5-0 (Q3) and 2-0 (Q4) with a non-con SOS of 23. Our net ranking is currently #66 but our RPI has us #18. I guess the net doesn't like close wins. Not sure what explains the disrepancy between our NET and RPI while Houston's rankings in these two metrics are nearly the same.
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Originally posted by Shockm View Post
The problem that I have with the NET is that there is seemingly no plus component that examines our SOS. If you compare our SOS of 23 and Houston's of 92, it would seem it should assist our NET ranking. I guess we are punished for not playing 2-3 Presbyterian's who are in the 300 range and nailing them to the wall. Obviously, we didn't play (rebound) well against Temple and Tulane and only won by a few in both but their NET is 160 or so.
Temple
South Florida
Tulane
Cincy
SMU (we didn't play them obviously)"In God we trust, all others must bring data." - W. Edwards Deming
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I posted this in another thread, but I'll put it here as well because of the AAC's covid and rescheduling problems. The MVC has finished their conference season with all teams playing the full schedule of 18 games. Playing both "H&A" games a day apart at only 1 site probably helped this. Nevertheless, quite the accomplishment given they finish a week earlier than most.
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Originally posted by Shockm View Post
The problem that I have with the NET is that there is seemingly no plus component that examines our SOS. If you compare our SOS of 23 and Houston's of 92, it would seem it should assist our NET ranking. I guess we are punished for not playing 2-3 Presbyterian's who are in the 300 range and nailing them to the wall. Obviously, we didn't play (rebound) well against Temple and Tulane and only won by a few in both but their NET is 160 or so.
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Originally posted by Shockm View Post
One of the above posts says it's 18.
After watching OSU beat OU on their court, along with watching Ole Miss have some success on their court, on top of Houston slaying opponents, I believe WSU has proved that they deserve an invite (many do) as of today. BUT, the season ain't over yet...
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