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    • Originally posted by WuShock Reaper View Post
      A very pro 3G guy

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      • RCIV was #1 on Sports Center Top 10. Happy for him, sad for us.
        Go Shocks!

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        • Originally posted by ShockerDropOut View Post
          RCIV was #1 on Sports Center Top 10. Happy for him, sad for us.
          Had a very active stat line, some good, some not so good:

          Good: 39 minutes (most on team), 19 points (tied as top Ark scorer), 6-8 FT, 6 rebounds, 4 assists, 1 steal, 1 block

          Not so good: 6-16 FG including 1-7 from 3, 4 TOs

          Thought the 39 minutes was very impressive.

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          • Originally posted by ShockTalk View Post

            Had a very active stat line, some good, some not so good:

            Good: 39 minutes (most on team), 19 points (tied as top Ark scorer), 6-8 FT, 6 rebounds, 4 assists, 1 steal, 1 block

            Not so good: 6-16 FG including 1-7 from 3, 4 TOs

            Thought the 39 minutes was very impressive.
            The thing about RC4 is that you have to take the good with the bad. I didn't ever see him with a bad attitude, and his effort on defense improved. 3G would have rode him constantly regarding his defense, rebounding, and turnovers (maybe once in a while setting him on the bench while coaching him), knowing all the time that we needed him to score, while IB would put him behind Joe Pleasant (who anyone could see wasn't nearly as good) for the entire year.

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            • Originally posted by Shockm View Post

              The thing about RC4 is that you have to take the good with the bad. I didn't ever see him with a bad attitude, and his effort on defense improved. 3G would have rode him constantly regarding his defense, rebounding, and turnovers (maybe once in a while setting him on the bench while coaching him), knowing all the time that we needed him to score, while IB would put him behind Joe Pleasant (who anyone could see wasn't nearly as good) for the entire year.
              One of the most puzzling decisions I’ve witnessed in my 96+ years of Shocker basketball.

              "You Just Want to Slap The #### Outta Some People"

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              • Originally posted by WuShock Reaper View Post
                I loved watching that man work
                Infinity Art Glass - Fantastic local artist and Shocker fan
                RIP Guy Always A Shocker
                Carpenter Place - A blessing to many young girls/women
                ICT S.O.S - Great local cause fighting against human trafficking
                Wartick Insurance Agency - Saved me money with more coverage.
                Save Shocker Sports - A rallying cry

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                • Originally posted by ShockerDropOut View Post
                  RCIV was #1 on Sports Center Top 10. Happy for him, sad for us.
                  He's lucky Joe pleasant didn't transfer to Ark. :)

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                  • Originally posted by mattdalt View Post

                    He's lucky Joe pleasant didn't transfer to Ark. :)
                    I always thought 'Joe' might have had some 'Dirt' on IB...



                    "You Just Want to Slap The #### Outta Some People"

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                    • Originally posted by mattdalt View Post

                      He's lucky Joe pleasant didn't transfer to Ark. :)
                      Doubt a good smart coach like Muss would have done what IB did.

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                      • Originally posted by mattdalt View Post

                        He's lucky Joe pleasant didn't transfer to Ark. :)
                        Best line of the year....:)

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                        • Originally posted by Shockm View Post

                          The thing about RC4 is that you have to take the good with the bad. I didn't ever see him with a bad attitude, and his effort on defense improved. 3G would have rode him constantly regarding his defense, rebounding, and turnovers (maybe once in a while setting him on the bench while coaching him), knowing all the time that we needed him to score, while IB would put him behind Joe Pleasant (who anyone could see wasn't nearly as good) for the entire year.
                          I think this narrative is overblown a bit. Counsel averaged 27 minutes. Pleasant averaged 16 minutes. Being in the "starting lineup" isn't everything.

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                          • What isn't overblown is that Pleasant was on the court at all.

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                            • Originally posted by shock-it-to-me View Post
                              I think this narrative is overblown a bit. Counsel averaged 27 minutes. Pleasant averaged 16 minutes. Being in the "starting lineup" isn't everything.
                              Might have been important to RC4

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                              • Originally posted by shock-it-to-me View Post
                                I think this narrative is overblown a bit. Counsel averaged 27 minutes. Pleasant averaged 16 minutes. Being in the "starting lineup" isn't everything.
                                Bottom line Pleasant was terrible and RC underachieved.

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