American Athletic Conference

[Shockerman]

The Big East is a pipe dream folks, let it go. We are the polar opposite of every school in that conference (City-State vs Private U). I don't care what the Bluejay AD said, its not happening and he's an idiot for even floating it out there. It is AAC or bust and if we get in, hopefully we drop the "State" and go back to being just Wichita as it better fits the profile of that conference.

[wusphlash]

MWC versus AAC. MWC held their basketball tournament in Vegas. AAC held theirs in Orlando. So, do you want to spend a March weekend in Vegas or in Orlando?

[OregonShocker]

basketball, a sport meant to be played indoors during winter/snow, is not so popular out west, relatively speaking.

??? I beg to differ; Oregon and Oregon State basketball, Washington basketball, Gonzaga, UCLA, UNLV, etc. Those schools have basketball programs that have HIGH popularity!

[kcshocker11]

MWC versus AAC. MWC held their basketball tournament in Vegas. AAC held theirs in Orlando. So, do you want to spend a March weekend in Vegas or in Orlando?

Why yes I do

[ShockerPrez]

basketball, a sport meant to be played indoors during winter/snow, is not so popular out west, relatively speaking. football and baseball, outdoor sports, rule in that region. mwc doesn't seem like a good fit. besides, top 3 of wichita state, uni and ilsu, in that order, in the mvc is arguably better than the mwc now. mwc is sinking, and with a comissioner that makes public statements like that towards wichita state, who brings the college basketball heat, who wants to know about 'em? not me.

'too bad the aac is going to fall apart here shortly (because the big-12 is looking to poach). that would have been ideal. adding wichita state to that?! basketball intensity.

According to Memphis fan, the AAC ain't losing any teams for a very very long time.

[choida]

Personally I think the Valley gets to keep us...

[another shocker]

??? I beg to differ; Oregon and Oregon State basketball, Washington basketball, Gonzaga, UCLA, UNLV, etc. Those schools have basketball programs that have HIGH popularity!

that's where the "relatively speaking" part comes in. i'm well aware of all of those teams basketball history. oregon and oregon state beat ucla in one weekend in 1974 yada, yada

mwc is a basketball dud, buddy. damn near a lateral move from the mvc.

[AZ Shocker]

Question...How much does attendance go up at other potential conference foes when the Shockers roll into town???

[shockmonster]

that's where the "relatively speaking" part comes in. i'm well aware of all of those teams basketball history. oregon and oregon state beat ucla in one weekend in 1974 yada, yada

mwc is a basketball dud, buddy. damn near a lateral move from the mvc.

Right now, they aren't producing regularly but there is a lot of potential in the MWC to be a Top 6-8 conference most years. UNLV, SDSU, and UNM are Top Tier teams potentially most years, and some of the other teams have some potential. SJSU is an anchor on the conference just as some Valley teams are. I thought that it was interesting that some of the fans want the conference to bring in Gonzaga and WSU which would make a very good basketball conference. The question remains whether we have the donors who are willing to spend big money on football for the trade off.

[Ta town]

MWC is not a lateral move in relation to the MVC. It's not as good as AAC but it's above the MVC.

Let's just do what I would consider top 3 programs from each league over last 10 years, not including WSU.

San Diego State, New Mexico, UNLV.

UNI, then whatever two teams you want to include cause I can't think of another with more than a year of success so doesn't really matter. Now throw in a few descent years of Colorado St, Boise, and Utah St a few years back and it's actually no contest at all.

[another shocker]

MWC is not a lateral move in relation to the MVC. It's not as good as AAC but it's above the MVC.

Let's just do what I would consider top 3 programs from each league over last 10 years, not including WSU.

San Diego State, New Mexico, UNLV.

UNI, then whatever two teams you want to include cause I can't think of another with more than a year of success so doesn't really matter. Now throw in a few descent years of Colorado St, Boise, and Utah St a few years back and it's actually no contest at all.

yes, it is a lateral move. uni alone has had far more success recently than every team you mentioned, except for maybe sdsu. did you watch any of the ncaa tournament? and of course you must include wichita state.

there's three ncaa tournament wins between wichita state and uni in 2016. how many ncaa tournament wins did the mwc bag this last year? weren't they a one bid league anyway?

[pie n eye]

The Big East is a pipe dream folks, let it go. We are the polar opposite of every school in that conference (City-State vs Private U). I don't care what the Bluejay AD said, its not happening and he's an idiot for even floating it out there. It is AAC or bust and if we get in, hopefully we drop the "State" and go back to being just Wichita as it better fits the profile of that conference.

Beware of those who tell you absolutely what is or isn't.

[The Mad Hatter]

yes, it is a lateral move. uni alone has had far more success recently than every team you mentioned, except for maybe sdsu. did you watch any of the ncaa tournament? and of course you must include wichita state.

there's three ncaa tournament wins between wichita state and uni in 2016. how many ncaa tournament wins did the mwc bag this last year? weren't they a one bid league anyway?

No you would not include Wichita State in such a discussion. I'm not sure how this isn't obvious. Why would WSU's performance be considered relevant in WSU's consideration of which conference they are in? Are you claiming that WSU should stay in the Valley because if we leave it would mean no longer being in a league with Wichita State?

[ShockTalk]

I really have no objection to the Big East, AAC, or MWC and would be excited about the prospects of being in any one of those 3.

As bad a season that the MWC had, it was not that bad. The Valley finished at #13, the MWC at #12. However, the gap between the two conferences was over .0140 in the RPI standing. That means that if the MWC dropped .0140 in RPI, they'd still be ahead of the Valley. If they added .0140 in RPI, they would have moved up to #9, just behind the AAC. Also, they had only 2 schools 200+ in RPI (although San Jose St was "Valley bottom-feeder bad"). The AAC had 4 schools. Also, wasn't the MWC #1 or 2 just a few years ago? I know they didn't do much with that standing in the Dance.

[another shocker]

No you would not include Wichita State in such a discussion. I'm not sure how this isn't obvious. Why would WSU's performance be considered relevant in WSU's consideration of which conference they are in? Are you claiming that WSU should stay in the Valley because if we leave it would mean no longer being in a league with Wichita State?

mwc vs mvc. just like the yearly get together that has started up again, because the conferences are so similar. once again, you underrate the mvc. shockers in the aac would get me excited- in the mwc, not so much.