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  • Originally posted by Atxshoxfan View Post

    "For whatever reason"? The reasons are obvious.
    1- media bias
    2- stupid people who vote for skin color or gender
    3- voters who want socialism
    4- voters who are too blind to see what Dems stand for these days.
    5- go team blue!
    I hate to say it (and I've said it since 2000) but more and more people like Socialism. They're wrong and moronic. But you have too much and you have too much, you ALL have too much and it must be redistributed.

    Oh, and Corporations are evil.

    The average voter, and American, is a complete moron and selfish as hell. I don't see us coming back anymore. I fear the battle is lost.

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    • Originally posted by Atxshoxfan View Post

      Spoken like someone who believes what the media tells them.
      Or perhaps those who have attended one of his rallies, watched a debate, etc.
      Shocker fan for life after witnessing my first game in person, the 80-74 win over the #12 Creighton Bluejays at the Kansas Coliseum.

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      • Originally posted by WuDrWu View Post

        I hate to say it (and I've said it since 2000) but more and more people like Socialism. They're wrong and moronic. But you have too much and you have too much, you ALL have too much and it must be redistributed.

        Oh, and Corporations are evil.

        The average voter, and American, is a complete moron and selfish as hell. I don't see us coming back anymore. I fear the battle is lost.
        Pretty sure I was just reading a few weeks ago about how conservatives were winning elections in Europe. The Republicans have to change in some ways to be competitive. I was talking to a Canadian coworker a couple of years ago and she noted the conservative candidates there were much more moderate.
        Shocker fan for life after witnessing my first game in person, the 80-74 win over the #12 Creighton Bluejays at the Kansas Coliseum.

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        • A conservative today is just someone that moves to the left slower. You can't get elected saying, "We are going to slash the government and return more power to the states".

          Oldrr people who should know better aren't feeling enough pain or struggle to be that drastic. And younger people are educated to elect socialists to fix their problems.
          "When life hands you lemons, make lemonade." Better have some sugar and water too, or else your lemonade will suck!

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          • Originally posted by SubGod22 View Post

            6- Trump is a blowhard
            7- He's an asshat that can't not stick his foot in his mouth
            8- He's not pro 2A no matter what he says
            9- He's an authoritarian
            10- His arrogance turns people off

            Originally posted by pinstripers View Post
            Trump can't seem to get out of his own way.
            It's nice to see some posts grounded in reality for once. Thanks for restoring my faith in the party - if only for a moment.

            Trump has never stopped stepping on his prack since Day 1. If he had had a modicum of impulse control, it would have been a much different story for his legacy, and perhaps our country.

            Like I said before, he betrayed us.

            The average person's penchant for cognitive dissonance and conspiratorial thinking has been the fuel that has propelled Trump to where he's at now. I think that fuel is finally running out. A bit too late for this election cycle, but WE MUST MAKE SURE he does not try to continue to hold onto this party after he loses in November.

            If it requires a combined attack from the Republican party WITH the Dims, so be it. And I'm guessing that's exactly what's going to happen. There will still be a "never forget Trump" contingent (which is sad), but they won't have near the influence enjoyed in the past. The GOP needs a cleansing and a rebirth! Brighter days are comin' I hope.

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            • Originally posted by ShockerPrez View Post

              And younger people are educated to elect socialists to fix their problems.

              "And younger people are brainwashed to elect socialists to fix their problems."

              If they were truly educated about socialists/socialism, they wouldn't buy into it.​

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              • Originally posted by Atxshoxfan View Post

                Give me an example of him getting in his own way. I've not seen it.
                G-E-O-R-G-I-A

                F-up that one state again and he is on his way to losing like he cost the country the Senate in the special elections.

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                • Originally posted by ShockTalk View Post


                  "And younger people are brainwashed to elect socialists to fix their problems."

                  If they were truly educated about socialists/socialism, they wouldn't buy into it.​
                  Yeah, I should have said the educators are teaching them to favor socialism. They aren't being educated at all.
                  "When life hands you lemons, make lemonade." Better have some sugar and water too, or else your lemonade will suck!

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                  • Harris’s selection of Tim “Walz as her running mate came as a surprise to many in the Acela-corridor set who expected Josh Shapiro


                    good read by Ben

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                    • Originally posted by shocktown View Post

                      G-E-O-R-G-I-A

                      F-up that one state again and he is on his way to losing like he cost the country the Senate in the special elections.
                      GEORGIA... Is not an example of getting in his own way. If you believe that, tell me how it's true.

                      After my post of 5 reasons that it's difficult for Trump to get his message out and reveal his true self, All I get are these debates of generalization about him.
                      Subgod added these.

                      ​​​​​​6- Trump is a blowhard.... Does touting your achievements make you a blowhard? If so, he has plenty to blow about.

                      7- He's an asshat that can't not stick his foot in his mouth.....why do you believe he's an asshat?

                      8- He's not pro 2A no matter what he says. ....What makes you believe that? I really don't remember him going after guns in his first term.

                      9- He's an authoritarian... How so, what did he do to make you feel that way, closed the border and built a fence ?

                      10- His arrogance turns people off...... THIS ONE IS LEGIT.

                      Most all of the above criticisms can't be backed with examples.

                      Someone please tell me what he supports or opposes that scares you to vote for him. ​ I'm not trying to start an argument, just curious why.

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                      • Originally posted by Ta Town Shocker View Post

                        Or perhaps those who have attended one of his rallies, watched a debate, etc.
                        I agree on one debate back in 2020. After non stop attacks by the media and Dems, he was fired up to defend himself as the lies and bias of the media was brought up time and again. He did not handle that well. But he definitely handled it better than most could have after what they put him through.

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                        • Originally posted by SubGod22 View Post

                          Spoken like someone who believes everything the GOP tells them.

                          I've listened to what he's said over the years and remember his actions as president.

                          I could never in good conscience vote for him or Harris. Neither is fit to run this country.

                          I'll continue to look into the other options as we draw closer to November. As always, I will vote for the ticket that best represents me, win or lose.
                          So your choice is to not care about inflation, jobs, wars (foreign or at home), taxes, national security, abortion, men in women's sports, etc..
                          You must be one of those who live off the grid. Yet you have a computer.
                          Take a stand. There is surely something you care about enough to vote for.
                          Either way you vote is ok, but damn man, you've got to vote.

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                          • Here's how racist Trump is.
                             

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                            • Originally posted by shocktown View Post

                              G-E-O-R-G-I-A

                              F-up that one state again and he is on his way to losing like he cost the country the Senate in the special elections.
                              yeah, it's a big deal, a very big deal

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                              • Here is Nate Silvers status of today

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