Pfizer Covid Vaccine

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I have friends in line for the Pfizer vaccine right now. Pulling every string in my pocket to get a couple shots for my folks.

I'm watching you Deniers very closely to see when you will start your anti-vaxxing rhetoric. You're trying...

Don't be a predictably ignorant turd.

Today is a Great Day!

But we are a long way from the promised land. Stay resilient science believers!

[MikeKennedyRulZ]

I have friends in line for the Pfizer vaccine right now. Pulling every string in my pocket to get a couple shots for my folks.

I'm watching you Deniers very closely to see when you will start your anti-vaxxing rhetoric. You're trying...

Don't be a predictably ignorant turd.

Today is a Great Day!

But we are a long way from the promised land. Stay resilient science believers!

Thanks to your President, your parents have an opportunity to get a vaccine.

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Thanks to your President, your parents have an opportunity to get a vaccine.

That couldn't be further from the truth.

Thanks to my president we're gonna have hundreds of thousands more dead than necessary. Thanks to my president were gonna have millions of more Covid survivors with long-term complications than necessary.

Now THAT ^^^ is closer to the truth than Donald having a hand in vaccine development.

I will agree that Donald didn't stand in the way of vaccine development and would have cleared any regulatory hurdles that he had the power to clear, but so would any other president. And there are several countries without Donald's magic wand who have beaten us to the vaccine punch. 50+ vaccines in late stages of development around the world.

[MikeKennedyRulZ]

That couldn't be further from the truth.

Thanks to my president we're gonna have hundreds of thousands more dead than necessary. Thanks to my president were gonna have millions of more Covid survivors with long-term complications than necessary.

Now THAT ^^^ is closer to the truth than Donald having a hand in vaccine development.

I will agree that Donald didn't stand in the way of vaccine development and would have cleared any regulatory hurdles that he had the power to clear, but so would any other president. And there are several countries without Donald's magic wand who have beaten us to the vaccine punch. 50+ vaccines in late stages of development around the world.

So ungrateful...

[ShockerFever]

Nobody on the planet would’ve stopped a virus. Get that fact through your thick ass skull.

This pixie world of “getting it early” is all fantasy land. There were Democrats during the early stages of the pandemic calling the president xenophobic for shutting down connections to China. If you thought anybody else would’ve had magical hindsight 2020 vision and would’ve done any better, then you’re a fool.

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Nobody on the planet would’ve stopped a virus. Get that fact through your thick ass skull.

This pixie world of “getting it early” is all fantasy land. There were Democrats during the early stages of the pandemic calling the president xenophobic for shutting down connections to China. If you thought anybody else would’ve had magical hindsight 2020 vision and would’ve done any better, then you’re a fool.

Plenty of countries out there who've done an exceptional job controlling the infection rate. In fact, nearly all of them have done a better job than us and none needed a time machine. They just had a strong, coordinated, and competent response - and no clown president running his mouth on Twitter directly contradicting the scientific recommendations.

https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-us-canada-53423637

Watch the video in the link. It's kind of old, but it's clear and the narrator speaks slowly so there's no excuse for you to ever use this ridiculously uninformed argument again.

[MikeKennedyRulZ]

Plenty of countries out there who've done an exceptional job controlling the infection rate. In fact, nearly all of them have done a better job than us and none needed a time machine. They just had a strong, coordinated, and competent response - and no clown president running his mouth on Twitter directly contradicting the scientific recommendations.

https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-us-canada-53423637

Watch the video in the link. It's kind of old, but it's clear and the narrator speaks slowly so there's no excuse for you to ever use this ridiculously uninformed argument again.

Or, they just aren't reporting it or are under reporting it. That is most definitely the case.

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So ungrateful...

So enlightened actually. It was a long road to get here with this president, but when the final straw was added, the house of cards (excuses) came crashing down... as they should have. I don't expect you to understand. Very few people would have been able to adjust mid-stream as I have. Most will continue down their original path because the pain of admitting their mistake seems greater than the pain of adapting to a new, more accurate view.

My work forces me to avoid biases so I have an advantage in this area. Perhaps it was my own professional evolution that contributed to my hopping off of the Trump train. Perhaps a pivotal neural connection was made inside my coconut while I was simultaneously scratching my head watching Trump schedule rallies indoors in the middle of the worst pandemic in 100 years. Seems like it should have been easier to see through to the insanity, but like you, I was a dyed-in-the-wool (see: born and bred, indoctrinated, formally educated, brainwashed) Republican and was willing to overlook a TON OF **** in hopes that the principles of capitalism, free markets, and personal liberty were enough to make up for any character misjudgments. I was wrong.

But... had there never been a pandemic, perhaps Trump wouldn't have been exposed and gone on for two fairly successful presidencies. When I say successful, I mean stayed the **** out of the way so the world's greatest economic machine could do her thang. You see, you could put your kid nephew in the White House, and as long as you kept him on the X-Box all day long and away from the Oval Office enacting new laws, America would thrive. It's not the government that makes us #1, quite the opposite actually.

But if there's a national emergency like war or a pandemic, we need a strong and steady leader who can balance the art of giving orders while taking advice. Trump wasn't up to the task... clearly.

But what if... what if... the pandemic saved us from an even greater tragedy? What if Trump would have gotten us into a war in his second term? Not a chance you say? Stranger things have happened and he was the king of saber rattlers. I never felt afraid with Trump as president until my "awakening". Now I can see some of the dangers the Libbies were howling about. Bluffing only gets you so far in this world, and it gets you practically nowhere with a virus.

[ShockerFever]

Plenty of countries out there who've done an exceptional job controlling the infection rate. In fact, nearly all of them have done a better job than us and none needed a time machine. They just had a strong, coordinated, and competent response - and no clown president running his mouth on Twitter directly contradicting the scientific recommendations.

https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-us-canada-53423637

Watch the video in the link. It's kind of old, but it's clear and the narrator speaks slowly so there's no excuse for you to ever use this ridiculously uninformed argument again.

The US has completed 226 million tests. No one else is even in the city of the ballpark. When you test more, you “out” more. Not to mention, the US has been on a mission to snuff out every possible case and “probable” death. Unless there is a uniform data reporting system, comparing the US with other countries is chromosome-challenged methodology.

Cuz we all know China has had about 1000 cases and no deaths since April. Cuz of their ingenious actions to curb the virus.. LOL.

Hows your model of “early shutdown and tracking” Germany doing right now?

You can’t stop a virus. Well maybe with a safe and effective vaccine. But that wasn’t on the table for 10 months.

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Or, they just aren't reporting it or are under reporting it. That is most definitely the case.

There absolutely is underreporting - particularly in the 3rd world countries. But we are absolutely the king of the dipshits in regards to this pandemic - especially so when you consider our #1 world power standing.

Again, liberty and pandemics do not make good bedfellows. All the countries that beat us in this challenge used more draconian measures - but not by much. Some used solidarity in communication - that seems to be breaking down a little in Europe now because admittedly, people are getting very fatigued. Particularly the ones who have not had a bad experience with the "bat flu". Those are the folks barking in the streets about how ridiculous this whole thing is. The disparity in effect is what makes this virus so insidious, alien, and difficult. If it knocked everybody on their ass, it would have everybody's full attention. This characteristic makes it infinitely more communicable and more deadly/disruptive than it should be.

With the technology and resources we have, Covid-19 should have never killed more than what we see in the average flu season..... IF..... we would have taken it very seriously from the start and had a national unified effort to relentlessly contact trace, test, and quarantine all positives. It was the asymptomatics that killed or harmed everyone. In China they would test massive areas of people regardless of symptoms. Then when they found a positive they snatched 'em up and put them in a containment camp. THAT's the only way you can OWN this virus. Collect all the positives and separate them from the negatives. This is why they hardly lost anyone.

Now, we can't be snatching up Americans and putting them in containment camps so we would have never had the success of Communist China. But, had we done everything else with excellence, I do believe we stay under 50-75k deaths. But we not only botched our response, we didn't even have a coordinated national testing and contact tracing initiative at all. Add on top of that a clueless president Tweeting for cities under high community spread to LiBeRaTeeeeeee!!!!!111111@@

It's almost as if he wanted people to die...

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The US has completed 226 million tests. No one else is even in the city of the ballpark. When you test more, you “out” more. Not to mention, the US has been on a mission to snuff out every possible case and “probable” death. Unless there is a uniform data reporting system, comparing the US with other countries is chromosome-challenged methodology.

Cuz we all know China has had about 1000 cases and no deaths since April. Cuz of their ingenious actions to curb the virus.. LOL.

Hows your model of “early shutdown and tracking” Germany doing right now?

You can’t stop a virus. Well maybe with a safe and effective vaccine. But that wasn’t on the table for 10 months.

nope

(I learned that response from wufan - saves me keystrokes)

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Gotta step away from all the exciting keyboard battles now guys. Thanks a bunch!

I'll leave you with some vaccine news. We've bough 100 million doses of Moderna's 94.12345% efficacy vaccine.

ThAnK UUUUU pReSiDeNt TruuuUUuuUUUmP!

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/u-gov...214202101.html

Very low chance of a touch of Bells Palsy upon being vaccinated. No biggie. This virus is gnarly, the immune response to a highly effective Covid vaccine is gnarly. You're better getting the vaccine than taking your chances with the real mccoy - demon seed on the street.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...it/3904994001/



CB OUT!

[ShockerFever]

nope

(I learned that response from wufan - saves me keystrokes)

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[ShockerFever]

Gotta give props to Cold for knowing what to do when on a sinking ship.

CB OUT.

[SB Shock]

Plenty of countries out there who've done an exceptional job controlling the infection rate. In fact, nearly all of them have done a better job than us and none needed a time machine. They just had a strong, coordinated, and competent response - and no clown president running his mouth on Twitter directly contradicting the scientific recommendations.

Death rates of several exceptional, forward thinking, liberal countries with Socialized health care

1. Belgium - 1,555 deaths per million
2. Italy - 1,090 deaths per million
3. Spain - 1,035
4. UK - 954

Honorable Mention
1. Czech - 909
2. Argentina - 908
3. France - 904

Then there are the liars: India, Russia, China, Iran, NK, etc

The U.S. sits at 937, which we know is artificially high since every death than can is attributed as covid death. And if you factor out some the states that handled this in a criminal manner,

NJ - 2,027 death/million
NY - 1,842 death/million
Mass - 1,660 deaths/million
Conn - 1,533
LA - 1,483
RI - 1,482
Illinois - 1,333
Mich - 1,153

USA looks much better when you removes these forward, authoritarian, liberal states out of the mix.

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