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  • Originally posted by SB Shock View Post

    Death rates of several exceptional, forward thinking, liberal countries with Socialized health care

    1. Belgium - 1,555 deaths per million
    2. Italy - 1,090 deaths per million
    3. Spain - 1,035
    4. UK - 954

    Honorable Mention
    1. Czech - 909
    2. Argentina - 908
    3. France - 904

    Then there are the liars: India, Russia, China, Iran, NK, etc

    The U.S. sits at 937, which we know is artificially high since every death than can is attributed as covid death. And if you factor out some the states that handled this in a criminal manner,

    NJ - 2,027 death/million
    NY - 1,842 death/million
    Mass - 1,660 deaths/million
    Conn - 1,533
    LA - 1,483
    RI - 1,482
    Illinois - 1,333
    Mich - 1,153

    USA looks much better when you removes these forward, authoritarian, liberal states out of the mix.

    .
    Looks pretty much like a blue voting block to me. But I could be wrong.

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    • Originally posted by C0|dB|00ded View Post

      That couldn't be further from the truth.

      Thanks to my president we're gonna have hundreds of thousands more dead than necessary. Thanks to my president were gonna have millions of more Covid survivors with long-term complications than necessary.

      Now THAT ^^^ is closer to the truth than Donald having a hand in vaccine development.

      I will agree that Donald didn't stand in the way of vaccine development and would have cleared any regulatory hurdles that he had the power to clear, but so would any other president. And there are several countries without Donald's magic wand who have beaten us to the vaccine punch. 50+ vaccines in late stages of development around the world.
      There you go again blaming this virus on your President. You have a relentless Joy Behar gene. Comprende'?

      The date of the "resurgence" can be traced to May 25th, 2020. Just in time to kick off a festive Summer. No? Was there something else that led to the resurgence (that's rhetorical cold)?





      In order; That's the left coast (Hollywood), Middle America (St. Louis), and the right coast (Manhattan). This unaltered bit of empirical evidence is your President's fault, eh? You definitely have the Behar gene... ; D

      https://wgntv.com/news/coronavirus/m...rus-outbreaks/

      If you weren't so obviously a pestering troll you'd be insufferable. But, you're Shockernet's pest...



      Last edited by ShockingButTrue; December 16, 2020, 11:30 AM.

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      • Masks Are Symbolic.jpg

        There's your denier. You know, the expert who everyone believed at the time. The President took it more serious than this quack. No?

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        • Originally posted by ShockingButTrue View Post

          There you go again blaming this virus on your President. You have a relentless Joy Behar gene. Comprende'?

          The date of the "resurgence" can be traced to May 25th, 2020. Just in time to kick off a festive Summer. No? Was there something else that led to the resurgence (that's rhetorical cold)?





          In order; That's the left coast (Hollywood), Middle America (St. Louis), and the right coast (Manhattan). This unaltered bit of empirical evidence is your President's fault, eh? You definitely have the Behar gene... ; D

          https://wgntv.com/news/coronavirus/m...rus-outbreaks/

          If you weren't so obviously a pestering troll you'd be insufferable. But, you're Shockernet's pest...


          As you can see, EVERYONE wore a mask and EVERYONE was socially distanced. There is no way, the virus could have been passed from one person to another.

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          • Originally posted by SB Shock View Post

            Death rates of several exceptional, forward thinking, liberal countries with Socialized health care

            1. Belgium - 1,555 deaths per million
            2. Italy - 1,090 deaths per million
            3. Spain - 1,035
            4. UK - 954

            Honorable Mention
            1. Czech - 909
            2. Argentina - 908
            3. France - 904

            Then there are the liars: India, Russia, China, Iran, NK, etc

            The U.S. sits at 937, which we know is artificially high since every death than can is attributed as covid death. And if you factor out some the states that handled this in a criminal manner,

            NJ - 2,027 death/million
            NY - 1,842 death/million
            Mass - 1,660 deaths/million
            Conn - 1,533
            LA - 1,483
            RI - 1,482
            Illinois - 1,333
            Mich - 1,153

            USA looks much better when you removes these forward, authoritarian, liberal states out of the mix.

            .
            Nope.

            Just kidding! The 3 readers of this thread would have been sorely disappointed.

            Okay, let's see what we have here...

            Cherry picking -- CHECK!
            Red herring -- CHECK!
            StrawMEN -- CHECK!
            Fallacy of exclusion -- CHECK!
            Misdirection -- CHECK!
            Deception -- CHECK!
            Ignoring the obvious -- CHECK!
            Revisionist historian -- CHECK!
            False dilemma -- CHECK!

            And finally...

            False premise -- CHEEECK!

            So, here's the reality: America is currently #12 out of 220 ranked countries in most deaths per one million. If you remove the "countries" with populations under 3.3M (#1 has 33,964), the U.S. is #6 in the world. Since I'm a poster of exceptional character, I will remove the countries below the U.S. using the same filter. That would make us #6 out of 149 countries ranked w/ a population above 3.3M.

            The only major countries doing worse than us, and they are only marginally worse is Italy, Spain, and the UK. All three of those countries were some of the first to get blindsided by the virus after it was allowed to escape China. In fact, many would-be travelers to the States took a detour after the border restrictions to Italy and absolutely seeded them to the max. The virus then made its way through the entire union and then onto our eastern shore en masse.

            The honest posters among us know that because Italy and Spain got ambushed and suffered tremendous deaths early on, it would be disingenuous to compare them to a country like us, who never got a handle on the virus and have been in one big wave since the beginning.

            You honestly want to compare this:








            To this???






            The first three countries got absolutely blind-sided by China, but they regrouped, recovered, and shut the virus down for 5 months giving their citizens a breather - from death. Spain is still doing very well, all things considered.

            So yeah, you got exposed trying to propagandize. But it's not your fault, you've been led astray by a carnival barker. One day you will return to facts and science. And then you will shake your head in disbelief that you ever got this lost in the woods.

            Oh, and one more thing...

            Don't bring up New York or the other major East Coast cities again either. You may be fooling the rest of the sheep, but truth and honesty is rolling its eyes at you.



            NYC got ambushed, but they weren't as surprised as Italy and Spain. Still, they regrouped, recovered, and absolutely annihilated SARS-CoV-2.


            For comparison, here's a state with months and months to prepare and all the latest treatments at their disposal. There only flaw? They had Trump's Mini-Me, DeSantis running the show...



            Abject incompetence.

            Now sir, you just got owned. So sit down for a moment until the headache dissipates; then reflect on what you just read, commit the new facts to memory, and never, EVER, come at me again bro.

            P.S. If your post got 3 likes, mine should get 3,000. But alas, we are not in a thread filled with intellectuals. Only Trumpers.

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            • Looks like Pfizer will be expanding its vaccine manufacture to other sites.
              Livin the dream

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              • Originally posted by C0|dB|00ded View Post

                Nope.

                Just kidding! The 3 readers of this thread would have been sorely disappointed.

                Okay, let's see what we have here...

                Cherry picking -- CHECK!
                Red herring -- CHECK!
                StrawMEN -- CHECK!
                Fallacy of exclusion -- CHECK!
                Misdirection -- CHECK!
                Deception -- CHECK!
                Ignoring the obvious -- CHECK!
                Revisionist historian -- CHECK!
                False dilemma -- CHECK!

                And finally...

                False premise -- CHEEECK!

                So, here's the reality: America is currently #12 out of 220 ranked countries in most deaths per one million. If you remove the "countries" with populations under 3.3M (#1 has 33,964), the U.S. is #6 in the world. Since I'm a poster of exceptional character, I will remove the countries below the U.S. using the same filter. That would make us #6 out of 149 countries ranked w/ a population above 3.3M.

                The only major countries doing worse than us, and they are only marginally worse is Italy, Spain, and the UK. All three of those countries were some of the first to get blindsided by the virus after it was allowed to escape China. In fact, many would-be travelers to the States took a detour after the border restrictions to Italy and absolutely seeded them to the max. The virus then made its way through the entire union and then onto our eastern shore en masse.

                The honest posters among us know that because Italy and Spain got ambushed and suffered tremendous deaths early on, it would be disingenuous to compare them to a country like us, who never got a handle on the virus and have been in one big wave since the beginning.

                You honestly want to compare this:








                To this???






                The first three countries got absolutely blind-sided by China, but they regrouped, recovered, and shut the virus down for 5 months giving their citizens a breather - from death. Spain is still doing very well, all things considered.

                So yeah, you got exposed trying to propagandize. But it's not your fault, you've been led astray by a carnival barker. One day you will return to facts and science. And then you will shake your head in disbelief that you ever got this lost in the woods.

                Oh, and one more thing...

                Don't bring up New York or the other major East Coast cities again either. You may be fooling the rest of the sheep, but truth and honesty is rolling its eyes at you.



                NYC got ambushed, but they weren't as surprised as Italy and Spain. Still, they regrouped, recovered, and absolutely annihilated SARS-CoV-2.


                For comparison, here's a state with months and months to prepare and all the latest treatments at their disposal. There only flaw? They had Trump's Mini-Me, DeSantis running the show...



                Abject incompetence.

                Now sir, you just got owned. So sit down for a moment until the headache dissipates; then reflect on what you just read, commit the new facts to memory, and never, EVER, come at me again bro.

                P.S. If your post got 3 likes, mine should get 3,000. But alas, we are not in a thread filled with intellectuals. Only Trumpers.
                Triggered.
                Deuces Valley.
                ... No really, deuces.
                ________________
                "Enjoy the ride."

                - a smart man

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                • Originally posted by ShockerFever View Post

                  Triggered.
                  If you equate triggered with orgasm. I sent that play school premise over the left field fence easily carrying 21st street. A Jeff Ryan special circa 1997.

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                  • Originally posted by C0|dB|00ded View Post

                    If you equate triggered with orgasm. I sent that play school premise over the left field fence easily carrying 21st street. A Jeff Ryan special circa 1997.
                    A+ for your baseball memory.
                    F- for your use of it as a comparison.

                    I should’ve just said “nope” and bailed.
                    Deuces Valley.
                    ... No really, deuces.
                    ________________
                    "Enjoy the ride."

                    - a smart man

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                    • I read the article and it looks like the government is listing released and ready doses on Tuesday for orders the next week, whereas the projected doses ready for distribution the following week are being left off of the ordering list.

                      One interesting side note: they are “baffled” that they can sometimes get 7 doses out of a 5 dose bottle. This is super common. No one should be baffled. The requirement is, “not less than” the full volume. It’s normal to have more. For instance, we track out controlled drug standard amounts to the mg. They are distributed by the government in bottles containing 200 mg. The actual amount is between 220 and 280 mg.

                      Dumb.
                      Livin the dream

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                      • Less COVID-19 vaccine coming to Kansas, Missouri, officials say. The reason is unclear

                        Kansas and Missouri officials say they will receive fewer doses of Pfizer’s COVID-19 vaccine than anticipated, potentially slowing the drive to inoculate health care workers as the virus continues to infect thousands of residents every day.

                        Other states reported reductions as well, though officials had little information about why. Pfizer, which is producing the only vaccine currently approved for emergency use, said Thursday that it had millions of doses sitting in warehouses but hadn’t received shipping instructions from the U.S. government.

                        The Kansas Department of Health and Environment said the federal government informed the agency of the cut but provided no reasons for the change. Missouri Department of Health and Senior Services Director Randall Williams estimated a 25-30 percent reduction.
                        Kansas’s weekly allocation of Pfizer vaccine is roughly 29,000 doses, while Missouri’s is about 52,000. KDHE spokeswoman Kristi Zears said Kansas now expects to receive 17,550 doses -- a 40 percent reduction. A 30 percent reduction in Missouri, as Williams estimated, would mean the state would only receive about 31,000 doses.

                        “The federal government has reduced allocations of vaccines beginning next week,” Zears said.

                        White House spokesman Michael Bars pushed back against the notion that the new numbers amount to cuts. “No allocations have been cut. This is inaccurate,” Bars said.

                        States are using a software platform called Tiberius to manage vaccine distribution. Tiberius included exercise and planning modules where states could view potential allocations. A federal official familiar with the matter said states were still looking at the modules as last week and that when they went to a separate program called the Vaccine Tracking System to order doses, the numbers were lower.

                        Any logistical problems now, when only a single vaccine is available and vaccination efforts are concentrated exclusively on health care workers and nursing home residents raise questions about the country’s ability to ramp up in the weeks and months ahead.
                        Pfizer said in a statement that it had successfully shipped all 2.9 million doses this week it had been asked to ship by the federal government. It said it hasn’t had any production issues and no shipments have been delayed.

                        “We have millions more doses sitting in our warehouse but, as of now, we have not received any shipment instructions for additional doses,” the company said.

                        If after 10 months of knowing a massive vaccine distribution would be coming, and this whole thing goes sideways...

                        My blood is starting to boil.

                        Where is the massive military response? Where are the airplanes waiting on tarmacs? All bullshit talk.

                        Hey, can we get the guy with dementia who broke his foot petting his dog into office early? l'd take anyone over the group of incompetents we have at this point.

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                        • Originally posted by C0|dB|00ded View Post
                          https://www.kansascity.com/news/coro...247932185.html


                          Less COVID-19 vaccine coming to Kansas, Missouri, officials say. The reason is unclear








                          If after 10 months of knowing a massive vaccine distribution would be coming, and this whole thing goes sideways...

                          My blood is starting to boil.

                          Where is the massive military response? Where are the airplanes waiting on tarmacs? All bullshit talk.

                          Hey, can we get the guy with dementia who broke his foot petting his dog into office early? l'd take anyone over the group of incompetents we have at this point.
                          Check my reply just above yours....this is based on projected vs actual release.
                          Livin the dream

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                          • Originally posted by C0|dB|00ded View Post
                            https://www.kansascity.com/news/coro...247932185.html


                            Less COVID-19 vaccine coming to Kansas, Missouri, officials say. The reason is unclear








                            If after 10 months of knowing a massive vaccine distribution would be coming, and this whole thing goes sideways...

                            My blood is starting to boil.

                            Where is the massive military response? Where are the airplanes waiting on tarmacs? All bullshit talk.

                            Hey, can we get the guy with dementia who broke his foot petting his dog into office early? l'd take anyone over the group of incompetents we have at this point.
                            You think Hiden Joe is going to magically make 330 million vaccines available on day 1? You are so stupid Clod.

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                            • Originally posted by wufan View Post
                              I read the article and it looks like the government is listing released and ready doses on Tuesday for orders the next week, whereas the projected doses ready for distribution the following week are being left off of the ordering list.

                              One interesting side note: they are “baffled” that they can sometimes get 7 doses out of a 5 dose bottle. This is super common. No one should be baffled. The requirement is, “not less than” the full volume. It’s normal to have more. For instance, we track out controlled drug standard amounts to the mg. They are distributed by the government in bottles containing 200 mg. The actual amount is between 220 and 280 mg.

                              Dumb.
                              I was looking into the “doses” claim. My god people are dumb! The filled volume is 0.45 mL of vaccine. To this vial, you add 1.8 mL of saline. That’s 2.25 mL of liquid.

                              The dose the patient receives is 0.3 mL. They are somehow shocked that they sometimes get 6 or even 7 doses out of a single vial. SMH
                              Livin the dream

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