Coronavirus 2019-nCov: Political Thread

[ShockerFever]

We flattened the curve and yet it’s not good enough.

You cannot eradicate a virus.

[Atxshoxfan]

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/iow...s-restrictions

Iowa governor lifts mask requirements, other coronavirus restrictions

A celebration of idiocy from Propaganda Central.



She does away with masks then says to stay safe. Complete incoherency and almost identical in spirit to the former president.







Trump's legacy regarding the war on reality, health, and common sense continues...

Only after what we've been through with the demented former administration could I ever find myself saying the following: "Thank GOD for the Democrats..."

I think we should all be required to wear hazmat suits, ban vehicles, aircraft, bicycles, knives, guns, ladders, stairs higher then 2 steps.
only then can we be truly safe.

Call the squad and have them throw those things in the next coronavirus bill somewhere.

Oops, forgot about axes, hammers, screw drivers, machetes, and cast iron skillets (my wife's favorite..just kidding)

[wufan]

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/iow...s-restrictions

Iowa governor lifts mask requirements, other coronavirus restrictions

A celebration of idiocy from Propaganda Central.



She does away with masks then says to stay safe. Complete incoherency and almost identical in spirit to the former president.







Trump's legacy regarding the war on reality, health, and common sense continues...

Only after what we've been through with the demented former administration could I ever find myself saying the following: "Thank GOD for the Democrats..."

It took mandatory vaccinations and 31 years to eradicate smallpox. It had a 30% mortality rate and Devi states populations for more than a millennium.

unplug

[Shockm]

It took mandatory vaccinations and 31 years to eradicate smallpox. It had a 30% mortality rate and Devi states populations for more than a millennium.

unplug

Clod and the Democrats will bring up Trump for generations to come as the reason for their mental and other problems. #Obssession

The coming economic, and border crisis (which will bring Covid into the U.S. along with social, unemployment, and economic issues ), will have nothing to do with Trump.

[C0|dB|00ded]

It took mandatory vaccinations and 31 years to eradicate smallpox. It had a 30% mortality rate and Devi states populations for more than a millennium.

unplug

Unplug from what? Reality? No thanks. We struggled with smallpox because we were cavemen. We have the technology and strategy to practically eradicate the virus from our shores... like Australia did... quite easily.

But you want to justify suffering today because we suffered (in ignorance) in the past? Shall I list the applicable logical fallacies?

Try again!

[C0|dB|00ded]

https://www.propublica.org/article/why-opening-restaurants-is-exactly-what-the-coronavirus-wants-us-to-do

Why Opening Restaurants Is Exactly What the Coronavirus Wants Us to Do


Governors continue to open indoor dining and other activities before vaccinations become widespread. Experts warn this could create superspreading playgrounds for dangerous variants and squander our best shot at getting the pandemic under control.

On Jan. 29, New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo was promoting “marital bliss” at a coronavirus news conference.

Announcing that indoor dining would reopen at 25% capacity in New York City on Valentine’s Day, and wedding receptions could also resume with up to 150 people a month after, Cuomo suggested: “You propose on Valentine’s Day and then you can have the wedding ceremony March 15, up to 150 people. People will actually come to your wedding because you can tell them, with the testing, it will be safe. … No pressure, but it’s just an idea.”

Cuomo isn’t alone in taking measures to loosen pandemic-related restrictions. Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer allowed indoor dining to resume at 25% capacity starting Feb. 1. Idaho Gov. Brad Little increased limits on indoor gatherings from 10 to 50 people. Massachusetts Gov. Charlie Baker is raising business capacity from 25% to 40%, including at restaurants and gyms. California Gov. Gavin Newsom lifted stay-at-home orders on Jan. 25.

To justify their reopening decisions, governors point to falling case counts. “We make decisions based on facts,” Cuomo said. “New York City numbers are down.”

But epidemiologists and public health experts say a crucial factor is missing from these calculations: the threat of new viral variants. One coronavirus variant, which originated in the United Kingdom and is now spreading in the U.S., is believed to be 50% more transmissible. The more cases there are, the faster new variants can spread. Because the baseline of case counts in the U.S. is already so high — we’re still averaging about 130,000 new cases a day — and because the spread of the virus grows exponentially, cases could easily climb past the 300,000-per-day peak we reached in early January if we underestimate the variants, experts said.

Furthermore, study after study has identified indoor spaces — particularly restaurants, where consistent masking is not possible — as some of the highest-risk locations for transmission to occur. Even with distanced tables, case studies have shown that droplets can travel long distances within dining establishments, sometimes helped along by air conditioning.

We’re just in the opening stage of the new variants’ arrival in the United States. Experts say we could speed viruses’ spread by providing them with superspreading playgrounds or slow them down by starving them of opportunities to replicate.

“We’re standing at an inflection point,” said Sam Scarpino, assistant professor at Northeastern University and director of the school’s Emergent Epidemics Lab. Thanks to the arrival of vaccines, he said, “we finally have the chance right now to bring this back under control, but if we ease up now, we may end up wasting all the effort we put in.”

Dr. Luciana Borio, an infectious disease physician who was a member of the Biden-Harris transition team’s COVID-19 advisory board, put it more bluntly at a congressional hearing on Feb. 3. “Our worst days could be ahead of us,” she said.

I interviewed 10 scientists for this story and was surprised by the vehemence of some of their language. “Are you sure it could be that bad?” I asked, over and over.

They unanimously said they expected B.1.1.7, the variant first discovered in the U.K., to eventually become the dominant version of coronavirus in the U.S. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has estimated that B.1.1.7 will become dominant in March, using a model that presumes it’s 50% more transmissible than the original “wildtype” coronavirus. The model’s transmission rate was based on experience in the U.K., which first detected B.1.1.7 in September and saw an increase in cases that became apparent in December, straining hospitals despite stringent closures and stay-at-home orders. So while our country appears relatively B.1.1.7-free right now, the situation could look drastically different in a matter of months.

"The People" will never understand what epidemiologists and CB have long understood. We have wave after wave after wave. After each, the general populace get nervous, comply, and then relax creating a self-perpetuating cycle. We have GOT to get infections down to a lower level. Then and only then can we "live normally". But the first sign of a super-spreader and that area must shut down indoor gatherings for a few weeks. This is how the successful countries have done it, and it works! They have brief and severe restrictions, but overall, they live normally... particularly when you compare life in the States. We are in a continual state of out-of-control disease spread w/ half the population trying to do the right thing (and dying/suffering) and the other half doing very little (and dying/suffering). Situations like this require rules with TEETH for the Covidiots who are shining examples of walking negative externalities.

[ShockerFever]

What’s the difference between spreading and super-spreading?

[C0|dB|00ded]

What’s the difference between spreading and super-spreading?

A super-spreader would be a cluster of simultaneous infections that have exponential growth characteristics/potential due to multiple social circles involved.

Example: funerals, birthday parties, weddings, church services, etc.

Isolated, lone infections are theoretically easier to be tolerated in a community, but that's debatable when you figure in 40-50% asymptomatic spread. Such a devilish disease.

Another way to look at it would be to flick individual matches onto a pile of dry brush, one at a time, versus tossing the entire burning match pack. Much easier for the "fire" (out-of-control/exponential community spread) to start in the second instance.

[wufan]

Unplug from what? Reality? No thanks. We struggled with smallpox because we were cavemen. We have the technology and strategy to practically eradicate the virus from our shores... like Australia did... quite easily.

But you want to justify suffering today because we suffered (in ignorance) in the past? Shall I list the applicable logical fallacies?

Try again!

You missed the point. A terrible illness beset the population for a millennium. When we got a vaccine, it still took 30 years to eradicate. For a minor virus, comparatively, we now have a vaccine, but it will take decades to eradicate. You want to wear a ****ing mask in public until 2050?

[wufan]

https://www.propublica.org/article/w...wants-us-to-do

Why Opening Restaurants Is Exactly What the Coronavirus Wants Us to Do


Governors continue to open indoor dining and other activities before vaccinations become widespread. Experts warn this could create superspreading playgrounds for dangerous variants and squander our best shot at getting the pandemic under control.






"The People" will never understand what epidemiologists and CB have long understood. We have wave after wave after wave. After each, the general populace get nervous, comply, and then relax creating a self-perpetuating cycle. We have GOT to get infections down to a lower level. Then and only then can we "live normally". But the first sign of a super-spreader and that area must shut down indoor gatherings for a few weeks. This is how the successful countries have done it, and it works! They have brief and severe restrictions, but overall, they live normally... particularly when you compare life in the States. We are in a continual state of out-of-control disease spread w/ half the population trying to do the right thing (and dying/suffering) and the other half doing very little (and dying/suffering). Situations like this require rules with TEETH for the Covidiots who are shining examples of walking negative externalities.

Nonsense.

[C0|dB|00ded]

You missed the point. A terrible illness beset the population for a millennium. When we got a vaccine, it still took 30 years to eradicate. For a minor virus, comparatively, we now have a vaccine, but it will take decades to eradicate. You want to wear a ****ing mask in public until 2050?

Perhaps it is you that missed the point my friend. I will attempt to elucidate. After that it will be up to the gods...

Here's some context: During Smallpox you crossed your fingers and prayed; with Coronavirus we have developed robust vaccine options in record time and are in the process of vaccinating the public. In essence, we expect to return to normalcy in about 6 mos. I am not aware of how they talked back in the day, but I suspect normalcy then was just accepting your fate. I mean, back then male life expectancies were around 45 yrs. Living long was a fantasy for most of the public.

We are nearing the finish line with Covid, and the finish line is death and bad outcomes more in line with non-alien viruses. To give up now and allow the insidious infector another big bite out of the public would be a tragedy.

Most expect the 'Rona to never go away, just evolve into a typical 'Rona cold virus (with the help of vaccines). Keep your chin up, and keep high-fivin' the boys crankin' out the special sauce.

[wufan]

Perhaps it is you that missed the point my friend. I will attempt to elucidate. After that it will be up to the gods...

Here's some context: During Smallpox you crossed your fingers and prayed; with Coronavirus we have developed robust vaccine options in record time and are in the process of vaccinating the public. In essence, we expect to return to normalcy in about 6 mos. I am not aware of how they talked back in the day, but I suspect normalcy then was just accepting your fate. I mean, back then male life expectancies were around 45 yrs. Living long was a fantasy for most of the public.

We are nearing the finish line with Covid, and the finish line is death and bad outcomes more in line with non-alien viruses. To give up now and allow the insidious infector another big bite out of the public would be a tragedy.

Most expect the 'Rona to never go away, just evolve into a typical 'Rona cold virus (with the help of vaccines). Keep your chin up, and keep high-fivin' the boys crankin' out the special sauce.

15 days to slow the spread. 6 months to reach herd immunity. So mask until May. That’s what you’re saying?

[pinstripers]

https://saraacarter.com/report-29-out-of-30-patients-with-serious-covid-19-cases-were-cured-in-days-with-new-israeli-drug/

Israeli drug

[wufan]

https://saraacarter.com/report-29-ou...-israeli-drug/

Israeli drug

Good news!

[Atxshoxfan]

Cold does not understand what a free society is.
if he feels unsafe going out or feels a mask will save his life, then he should do whatever he feels safe doing.
I prefer to decide what want to do and any risk associated with my activities. I don't need a bunch of hack, communist politicians telling what I have to do. They are not our parents or rulers, last I heard they work for the people and should do what the people want. Very few want these over reaching mandates.