Coronavirus 2019-nCov: Political Thread

[revenge_of_shocka_khan]

You support King Newsome's mandates for mask usage everywhere which isn't what Kansas espouses. If masks help so much outside, why am I seeing television shows (news and other new shows done after Covid) on ABC, CBS, and NBC where the news anchors, and actors are inside, and trying to separate, but not wearing masks. This happens in Sedgwick County, but also in New York, California, etc where the government makes all sorts of extra rules. Shouldn't they be wearing masks everywhere outside their home (maybe you think they should wear them inside their homes too) in these blue states. Most of these people are anti-Trump so I'm sure they are all pro mask wearing everywhere. I'm for the rules in Sedgwick Country, but not for King Newsome.

By the way, I wear a mask whenever I'm inside a building with others and cannot always separate 6', but I'm not for wearing them outside, or when 6' separation is possible.

Mr. Ruiz states he is in San Diego, and King Newsome's orders are valid only in Cali, much like our Gov. Abbott's orders are only valid in Texas.

And since you mentioned liberal states, El Paso is trying to lock down right now, but our crooked AG won't let them. Texas is a republican state, Dee Margo (El Paso's mayor) is also a republican.

El Paso is running out of hospital space and we are getting some of their COVID patients, as are all other large Texas Metro areas.

But more to the point.....if one of the tenants of conservatism is that decisions are best made at the local level, why are our STATE officials trying to overrule a REPUBLICAN mayor? Seems like Mr. Margo has good reason to close El Paso down. I'm sure that goes against his grain at least a little.

But I get your point. These decisions are best made at the local level and driven by science. Governors should be making those orders flexible with the right to step in if incompetence becomes an issue. In my world, the Mayor of San Diego, in conjunction with local public health officials should be making these decisions. On the flip side, I do not know what the metrics are in San Diego, but if they are substantially lower than, say, LA or San Fran, I could see where the locals might not be happy.

P.S. I salute you for wearing a mask and social distancing.

[wufan]

Sure I am. If the shoe fits, wear it!

No, see, when someone says something that is false, you are supposed to provide evidence that contradicts the false narrative. Just rejecting reality is not the same thing.

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This seemed like something made up, it definitely doesn't go along anecdotally with what I'm seeing. Low and behold, it is another one of Cold made up numbers

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2020/10/27/928317805/mask-wearing-is-up-in-the-u-s-but-young-people-are-still-too-lax-cdc-survey-find

The CDC questioned 2,000 people over 3 months. Yeah... that's legit. We know how honest people are with polling.

CDC: "Hey, do you wear a mask?"

College Dude: "Suuuuuuure I do!"

There's a big difference between wearing a mask every now and then and wearing one ALL THE TIME that you are in public. Everyone that slips a mask on (with their nose hanging out) can honestly say, "Yes, I wear a mask".

Masks are like condoms, they need to be worn ALL the time to be effective.

I also am now very skeptical of anything the CDC puts out in regards to "public guidance" after all the meddling the White House has been doing.

I know of bars and restaurants in Wichita and the surrounding area where nobody wears a mask once inside. And even in the compliant ones, people don't wear one while seated which defeats the entire purpose. That's like putting the condom on right before you're ready to finish. Doesn't make sense.

C'mon SB, you've got to have better critical thinking skills than this...

[MikeKennedyRulZ]

No, see, when someone says something that is false, you are supposed to provide evidence that contradicts the false narrative. Just rejecting reality is not the same thing.

You mean like when Hiden Joe just says "C'mon man, he is lying!" and doesn't provide any sort of coherent concrete rebuttal? Or when he just ignores his idiot son's money laundering schemes?

[shoxtop]

The CDC questioned 2,000 people over 3 months. Yeah... that's legit. We know how honest people are with polling.

CDC: "Hey, do you wear a mask?"

College Dude: "Suuuuuuure I do!"

There's a big difference between wearing a mask every now and then and wearing one ALL THE TIME that you are in public. Everyone that slips a mask on (with their nose hanging out) can honestly say, "Yes, I wear a mask".

Masks are like condoms, they need to be worn ALL the time to be effective.

I also am now very skeptical of anything the CDC puts out in regards to "public guidance" after all the meddling the White House has been doing.

I know of bars and restaurants in Wichita and the surrounding area where nobody wears a mask once inside. And even in the compliant ones, people don't wear one while seated which defeats the entire purpose. That's like putting the condom on right before you're ready to finish. Doesn't make sense.

C'mon SB, you've got to have better critical thinking skills than this...

And you somehow think mandates make people wear a masks more correctly? Are you going to bring anything to this conversation other than anecdotes?

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And you somehow think mandates make people wear a masks more correctly? Are you going to bring anything to this conversation other than anecdotes?

Reread what you just said and think of it in the context that you are brainwashed. You're arguing with me over mask mandates in an out-of-control pandemic. We're going to eclipse 100k infections in a day or so. We will have thousands (maybe 3) dying daily by January. Feel icky yet? I mean these aren't even your own words. You're not a bad guy. Had you never heard of Trump, Sean Hannity, or Laura Ingraham, we wouldn't even be arguing.

And yes, it is proven that mask mandate laws WITH TEETH, are religiously followed.

[shoxtop]

Reread what you just said and think of it in the context that you are brainwashed. You're arguing with me over mask mandates in an out-of-control pandemic. We're going to eclipse 100k infections in a day or so. We will have thousands (maybe 3) dying daily by January. Feel icky yet? I mean these aren't even your own words. You're not a bad guy. Had you never heard of Trump, Sean Hannity, or Laura Ingraham, we wouldn't even be arguing.

And yes, it is proven that mask mandate laws WITH TEETH, are religiously followed.

Since you quoted me I’m going to assume this red herring argument was directed at me. Doesn’t really hit home however as I haven’t voted for trump in either election, have never listened to Hannity, and honestly don’t know who Ingraham is. I’m not into politics in the least. Couldn’t care less.

If it has been proven then let’s discuss it. In my research I have yet to see where it’s been proven. People are already masking at a very high rate, which is fantastic. As I mentioned previously, I’m not arguing that masks are bad. I’m of the opinion that mandates are unnecessary and actually make many people rebel against wearing them than had the mandate never occurred. Prove me wrong.

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Since you quoted me I’m going to assume this red herring argument was directed at me. Doesn’t really hit home however as I haven’t voted for trump in either election, have never listened to Hannity, and honestly don’t know who Ingraham is. I’m not into politics in the least. Couldn’t care less.

If it has been proven then let’s discuss it. In my research I have yet to see where it’s been proven. People are already masking at a very high rate, which is fantastic. As I mentioned previously, I’m not arguing that masks are bad. I’m of the opinion that mandates are unnecessary and actually make many people rebel against wearing them than had the mandate never occurred. Prove me wrong.

People rebel against speed limits and battery laws as well. There are penalties for that.

To be able to follow my logic, you must first believe that Covid is real. No, I mean really. After you've passed that barrier then you will agree with me that a means of mitigation must be enacted as the threat is inversely proportional to "right" action. Melbourne has 99% adherence to masking and there's a $1k fine waiting for the other 1%.

People WERE not masking at a high rate and people ARE not masking with sufficient consistency to have a full effect on community spread. To be fair, most of my squealing has to do with a LATE adoption of higher rates of masking thanks to incompetent leadership at the White House.

We can't have some communities without masking. Everybody needs to be wearing it because NOBODY knows when the virus will visit their neighborhood. Yesterday's virus free zone, could be tomorrow's hotspot. With our entire country masked up, we will see transmission rates plummet. But we ALL must be masked up otherwise the virus will just shift from one geographic location to the next like it has since day one. The whole idea that different communities need different approaches reflects an ignorance on how epi/pandemics evolve.

Fauci: 'If it looks like you're overreacting, you're probably doing the right thing"

If the Trump Administration would have followed this single piece of advice from Dr. Fauci, he might have not only averted the greatest infection event of the last 100 years in this country, but saved his own job in the process. Oh well. Never to old to learn a lesson I guess.

[SB Shock]

The CDC questioned 2,000 people over 3 months. Yeah... that's legit. We know how honest people are with polling.

CDC: "Hey, do you wear a mask?"

College Dude: "Suuuuuuure I do!"

There's a big difference between wearing a mask every now and then and wearing one ALL THE TIME that you are in public. Everyone that slips a mask on (with their nose hanging out) can honestly say, "Yes, I wear a mask".

Masks are like condoms, they need to be worn ALL the time to be effective.

I also am now very skeptical of anything the CDC puts out in regards to "public guidance" after all the meddling the White House has been doing.

I know of bars and restaurants in Wichita and the surrounding area where nobody wears a mask once inside. And even in the compliant ones, people don't wear one while seated which defeats the entire purpose. That's like putting the condom on right before you're ready to finish. Doesn't make sense.

C'mon SB, you've got to have better critical thinking skills than this...

come on Man,

Just admit u got caught making stuff again. PEW research - 85%

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2020/08/27/more-americans-say-they-are-regularly-wearing-masks-in-stores-and-other-businesses/

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come on Man,

Just admit u got caught making stuff again. PEW research - 85%

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2020/08/27/more-americans-say-they-are-regularly-wearing-masks-in-stores-and-other-businesses/

Bro, I haven't made a single thing up since the pandemic's inception.

You must know by now, that the moment you feel the urge building up to come in here and take a swing at ol' CB, that you're already overmatched. Well before the first keystroke.

[revenge_of_shocka_khan]

No, see, when someone says something that is false, you are supposed to provide evidence that contradicts the false narrative. Just rejecting reality is not the same thing.

I do, but the latin guy from San Diego ignores, rejects it outright or comes up with another falsehood to replace it (like Hunter Biden's hard drive) and changes the subject.

And I've seen you ignore things I've posted here as well.

Why should I waste my time?

[wufan]

I do, but the latin guy from San Diego ignores, rejects it outright or comes up with another falsehood to replace it (like Hunter Biden's hard drive) and changes the subject.

And I've seen you ignore things I've posted here as well.

Why should I waste my time?

I’ve asked for him samples. I don’t think you’ve posted articles here disputing what I’ve said recently not you have some, please point them out.

[C0|dB|00ded]

https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/01/polit...ign/index.html

As President Donald Trump fights his way through the final days of the presidential campaign denying the pandemic -- by lashing out at doctors, disputing science and slashing the press for highlighting rising coronavirus case counts -- the long-running rift between the White House and Dr. Anthony Fauci burst into the open Saturday night.

For months as Trump undercut his own medical experts, sidelined scientists and refused to take basic steps to control the virus while mocking former Vice President Joe Bidenfor wearing a mask, the nation's top infectious disease specialist held his tongue and took the President's attacks in stride as he continued to plead with the American people to socially distance and wear masks.

But Fauci's restraint appeared to have evaporated in a Washington Post interview published Saturday night,in whichhe called out the White House for allowing its strategy for fighting the virus to be shaped in part by a neuroradiologist with no training in the field of infectious disease -- who granted an interview to a Kremlin-controlled propaganda network the same day Fauci's remarks were released. The nation's top infectious disease expert also told the Post he appreciated chief of staff Mark Meadows' honesty when he admitted to CNN's Jake Tapper during a recent interview that the administration has given up controlling the spread of the virus.

"All the stars are aligned in the wrong place" as the country heads indoors in colder weather, Fauci told the newspaper in an interview late Friday -- a day when the US set a global record for the most daily cases and the nation surpassed 229,000 deaths. "You could not possibly be positioned more poorly."

"I have real problems with that guy," the Washington Post quoted Fauci as saying about Atlas. "He's a smart guy who's talking about things that I believe he doesn't have any real insight or knowledge or experience in. He keeps talking about things that when you dissect it out and parse it out, it doesn't make any sense."

Atlas -- known for his out-of-the-mainstream views about the coronavirus, including the potential benefits of herd immunity -- made dubious claims in a 27-minute interview to RT, the propaganda network that had played a major role in the Kremlin's efforts to interfere in the 2016 US presidential election and later was forced to formally register with the Justice Department as an agent of the Russian government.

"New interview. Lockdowns, facts, frauds ... if you can't handle truth, use a mask to cover your eyes and ears," Atlas tweeted Saturday, sharing the interview in which he also criticized public health experts.Atlas did not have clearance from the White House for the interview -- which RT said was done on White House property -- and senior aides raised concerns internally after Atlas appeared on the network, a senior White House official told CNN.
On Sunday, Atlas tweeted an apology for doing the interview with RT, saying he "was unaware they are a registered foreign agent."

Dr. Fauci is losing patience with the clown show, but he never loses his decorum. What a badass.

Such a mess we are in. *sigh*

[C0|dB|00ded]

Well, I am now resigning myself to becoming infected over the next couple months. Based on new information regarding projections on vaccine efficacy, widespread availability dates, and the fact that infections, hospitalizations, and deaths are following lock-step with the doom and gloom models of the summer, it's likely game over for me and my Covid virginity. People are getting infected that follow very strict routines (like myself) and they have no clue how they got infected. We are beyond mere community spread now, we are reaching a state of inevitability. Oh well.

May as well post my favorite video again as it looks to be coming relevant again. Hospitalizations are skyrocketing everywhere, including right here at home.

[ShockingButTrue]

Well, I am now resigning myself to becoming infected over the next couple months. Based on new information regarding projections on vaccine efficacy, widespread availability dates, and the fact that infections, hospitalizations, and deaths are following lock-step with the doom and gloom models of the summer, it's likely game over for me and my Covid virginity. People are getting infected that follow very strict routines (like myself) and they have no clue how they got infected. We are beyond mere community spread now, we are reaching a state of inevitability. Oh well.

May as well post my favorite video again as it looks to be coming relevant again. Hospitalizations are skyrocketing everywhere, including right here at home.

Why is there a surge if basically everyone's been wearing masks for the last 3 months? It's just an honest question so please don't get hysterical.

It surely is not because your President screwed this thing up from the beginning is it? What did Cuomo do with all of those ventillators?

Why is Biden saying he'll implement MORE testing and produce more PPE if that's what your President is already doing? What's that gonna' solve? I'll tell you why; because Biden's just another another lying POS politician who'll tell you anything to get elected, up to turning this deadly virus into a political issue. That's why someone who isn't a politician occupies the White House.

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Can we get a fact-checker Cold?