Coronavirus 2019-nCov: Political Thread

[MikeKennedyRulZ]

Restaurants and bars account for 1.4% of Covid cases in New York between September through the end of November. So the logical conclusion is to shut down restaurants right??

https://ny.eater.com/2020/12/11/22169841/restaurants-and-bars-coronavirus-spread-data-new-york

Following multiple calls from restaurant industry trade groups demanding more transparency with the state’s COVID-19 contact tracing data, Gov. Andrew Cuomo released a detailed breakdown during a press conference on Friday showing how COVID-19 is spreading throughout the state.

Restaurants and bars accounted for 1.43 percent of COVID-19 cases recorded between September through the end of November, according to contact tracing data.

[ShockerFever]

I've been correct about everything I've posted on this board my friend except for a minor snafu regarding a statistics formula. It isn't magic, I have just followed the science. And I agree with you, half of the country is deluded which is why we're in the shape we're in.




Actually, what KW posted was not factual (or even responsible) in the context of where we're at in this pandemic - or where we're headed. He was taking a "hopeful" snapshot in time of a corrective wave occurring against the main trend - a trend that happens to be quite unfortunate. Any comment on the state of things beyond wear your mask, and avoid close contact with strangers as much as humanly possible, is irresponsible at this juncture.

KW is admittedly a "optimistic person" who chooses to find the silver lining in every thunderstorm. That type of self-delusion is a great way to live life in general and I envy it. But in times of crises, you want a straight shooter who will tell you how bad the cancer is. That kind of advice will give you the best chance to take correct action.

Wait, so the data locally can’t differ with the data nationally? And if it does, we should look to the national data?

That seems to make a hell of a lot of sense.

[C0|dB|00ded]

Wait, so the data locally can’t differ with the data nationally? And if it does, we should look to the national data?

That seems to make a hell of a lot of sense.

The data nationally is a reflection of all the data locally. The overall trend is crystal clear. We got into this mess by not using a top-down approach. We conducted hundreds of varying pandemic responses because "North Dakota ain't New York City".....

And the rest, as they say, is history.

[C0|dB|00ded]

Restaurants and bars account for 1.4% of Covid cases in New York between September through the end of November. So the logical conclusion is to shut down restaurants right??

https://ny.eater.com/2020/12/11/22169841/restaurants-and-bars-coronavirus-spread-data-new-york

I have no time to proof-read every cockamamie article you pull off Facebook. I just know how viruses transfer. Sitting indoors, in poorly ventilated buildings, with a bunch of maskless strangers, is a primary recipe for infection. If you will allow yourself to understand that truth, then you won't need to wait for somebody to write the story for you, it will be innately known already. Then you will catch a glimpse into how I see what I do. With enough scientific facts residing in your brain, the secrets of the universe will open up to you. Everything else is just a waste of time in comparison.

[shoxtop]

Nothing like a little data + pink crayon to get us back on track in here.

Covid is real.

You do realize it is the states you were commending a week ago that are now driving this growth right?

[pinstripers]

Kat Timpf
@KatTimpf
NY’s own contact tracing data showed that restaurants & bars were responsible for just 1.4 percent of infections. 1.4%, and Cuomo closes indoor dining. Stop pretending this man gives the slightest **** about you, your livelihood, your mental health, or anything else except...

[wufan]

Cold spends all day building straw men to argue with.

[MikeKennedyRulZ]

I have no time to proof-read every cockamamie article you pull off Facebook. I just know how viruses transfer. Sitting indoors, in poorly ventilated buildings, with a bunch of maskless strangers, is a primary recipe for infection. If you will allow yourself to understand that truth, then you won't need to wait for somebody to write the story for you, it will be innately known already. Then you will catch a glimpse into how I see what I do. With enough scientific facts residing in your brain, the secrets of the universe will open up to you. Everything else is just a waste of time in comparison.

What happened to we have to trust the science? Science says restaurants don’t spread the virus all that much. Or do we throw that science out because it doesn’t fit the narrative?

Says the fool who posts nonsensical articles one after another to regurgitate a tired rhetoric fed to him by Fake News. Got it.

[revenge_of_shocka_khan]

You are correct about socialism and national emergencies. Often, governments have used fear of these types of things to institute control over society and therefore use that control to silence and exploit people. Seems to be what is happening in our country at the moment. Luckily at least half of the country is right thinking and isn't about to let it happen. The other half are just sheep following their incompetent and brainwashing leaders over an inevitable cliff.

So......is that sort of like the guy who recently started saying that the election was stolen from him by Hugo Chavez and his magic algorithm? I mean that's what his 'legal team' was saying and he didn't contradict that, in fact he actually amplified that type of thinking. And threatening elected officials in his own party? That wouldn't, no couldn't be using control and fear to manipulate elected officials. And then there were all the people who bought into that bullshit......why there's absolutely NO WAY those people could be sheep.

See what happens when you elect an incompetent moron who has a rather wide authoritarian streak in him and can't accept the fact he lost the election? And then further deny facts and truth because it's inconvenient.....you lose your high ground and become just as bad, if not worse, than the people you criticize.

Nope, the republican party isn't the party of conservatives any more. It's become the party of the Beverly Hillbillies. That stink won't wash off easy.

[ShockerPrez]

Is Trump more or less authoritarian than Biden/Pelosi/Shumer/Harris?

Does anyone think Trump wants more or less control over your lives than the Democrats?

Do the groups that support Trump yearn for more or less state control over the country?

Is China happy or upset Biden is going to be the President?

Do the people that idolize Hugo Chavez, Fidel Castro, Che Guevara lean toward Trump or democrats?

Generally speaking, are people fleeing the U.S. as a result of the 'authoritarian' policies Trump has inacted over the past 4 years?

WTF is this authoritarian **** people are talking about with Trump? Citing anomolies in an election is not the same as Kristallnacht, no matter how many lefty journos make the comparison.

[ShockerPrez]

Cold spends all day building straw men to argue with.

Everytime Cold posts, a strawman gets [possesive gender non-binary] wings.

[C0|dB|00ded]

Wow this thread blew up in my absence.

It's going to go the wrong direction in _Sedgwick County, KS_ very soon? So far wrong?

When? How wrong?

I have posted every single week regardless as to whether it has been getting worse or not. You're about to get banned for this behavior. If you want to argue with meaningless warnings, take it to the political thread.

You're threatening to ban me because I disagree with the heading you attached to your data? There's no need for hostilities. This is your site. Just let me know that my opinions are no longer welcome and I will simply walk away.

There isn't an epidemiologist on planet earth that thinks the Covid situation in America is improving. This isn't politics this is reality and is why I addressed your post. I also addressed your own statement that you prefer to look at the sunny side of life and gave my opinion on that as well. My comment about that frame of mind being delusional is far from good manners, but considering some of the vitriol aimed at me 24/7, I thought we had dispensed with decorum a long time ago.

If I offended you I apologize, and I do so because you're the boss. But if my position on the issues (I call them science-based facts), or the way I go about defending my positions (acerbic and punishing) are starting to make your experience unenjoyable, just let me know. I asked you for this guidance from the very start when I rejoined the site. It is your board after all and you have the right to shape its culture any way you see fit.

But as for the warning about getting political, I would appreciate more clarification. I try very hard to follow the rules. I looked back over several pages of posts and saw political comments inserted all over the place from everybody. I have been extremely careful about posting articles that have a political edge to them. Is it the arguing that you don't want in this thread? I'm clearly the flame that draws the moths on debate. Perhaps I should just stop commenting in the Covid thread altogether?

[C0|dB|00ded]

Cold spends all day building straw men to argue with.

I think I better stay in this thread from now on. Ya'll are too attracted to my moth balls.

Would you believe that as a youngster I was always singled out in class for "disruption" too?

CB is so mistreated. :(

[ShockerPrez]

I think I better stay in this thread from now on. Ya'll are too attracted to my moth balls.

Would you believe that as a youngster I was always singled out in class for "disruption" too?

CB is so mistreated. :(

This is where all the heathens are that need your enlightenment anyway.

[pinstripers]

Ivermectin