Coronavirus 2019-nCoV

[Kung Wu]

The only thing I'm sure of is the COVID 19 is worse than the Freshman 15. I feel like I'm snacking every hour.

[MelvinLoudermilk]

Switzerland to re-open schools

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...open-gradually


- 3200 people are hospitalized and only 18 are less than 10 years old
- infected children are not that sick
- children's viral loads is very low
- it is adults who infect children. not the other way around

https://www.rts.ch/info/sciences-tec...-covid-19.html


Makes stories like the one below seem so freaking ridiculous:

Young Girl Plays Basketball Alone, City Takes Hoop


https://www.foxnews.com/us/arkansas-...ncing-casualty

[1972Shocker]

What do you mean "the" surface? Tennis is played on clay, grass and hard courts. You need to be more specific.

The one constant is, as has already been mentioned . . .

And even the women tennis player shave fuzzy balls.

[Kung Wu]

Moved political posts to political thread.

[ShockerFever]

So now I'm seeing "probable deaths" being counted in the official totals from places like NYC and Maryland. So no need for confirmation anymore?

This is where I don't trust the "process". If this disease is similar to a lot of others, how can you just count deaths that are "probable"? Seems like a numbers-skewing idea.

[WstateU]

nm - oops, posted in wrong thread.

[MelvinLoudermilk]

The trend continues:

Swedish test finds 11% already have antibodies.

"The actual figure is believed to be higher."

"Tom Britton, professor of mathematical statistics, says that a third of Stockholmers have already become infected. According to his calculations, the spread is still large, but is slowly declining."

"It is too little for a research report, but too important to sit and hold on, says Jan Albert, and says that further research remains. We will continue to get better and better clarity. We will be looking at more blood donors this week. It would be best to have a large random selection"

Small sample, but kind of echos other recent tests.

https://www.svt.se/nyheter/inrikes/1...r-mot-covid-19

[SB Shock]

The trend continues:

Swedish test finds 11% already have antibodies.

"The actual figure is believed to be higher."

"Tom Britton, professor of mathematical statistics, says that a third of Stockholmers have already become infected. According to his calculations, the spread is still large, but is slowly declining."

"It is too little for a research report, but too important to sit and hold on, says Jan Albert, and says that further research remains. We will continue to get better and better clarity. We will be looking at more blood donors this week. It would be best to have a large random selection"


https://www.svt.se/nyheter/inrikes/1...r-mot-covid-19

That is because Sweden doesn’t test unless you are seriously ill. They don’t report anybody with covid unless they are tested. So of course you are going to find there is large population who has antibody but never diagnosed. They made the political decision let covid-19 run it course.

They are starting face some political fallout as death rates have stated to climb (their death rates are 3-4 time higher than countries around them). Now the swedish government is trying to close the proverbial “barn door”.

https://www.project-syndicate.org/co...gstrom-2020-04

[Kung Wu]

They are starting face some political fallout as death rates have stated to climb (their death rates are 3-4 time higher than countries around them). Now the swedish government is trying to close the proverbial “barn door”.

Switzerland:
Population 8.2 million people.
First 10 confirmed cases on 02/28.
Lockdown on March 15.
Total deaths as of 04/21 = 1,478
0.018% of their country's population.

Sweden
Population 10.2 million people.
First 10 confirmed cases on 02/28.
No lockdown imposed, only advised.
Total deaths as of 04/21 = 1,765
0.017% of their country's population.

[wufan]

That is because Sweden doesn’t test unless you are seriously ill. They don’t report anybody with covid unless they are tested. So of course you are going to find there is large population who has antibody but never diagnosed. They made the political decision let covid-19 run it course.

They are starting face some political fallout as death rates have stated to climb (their death rates are 3-4 time higher than countries around them). Now the swedish government is trying to close the proverbial “barn door”.

https://www.project-syndicate.org/co...gstrom-2020-04

11% with antibodies, regardless of testing for illness, is still really high as a percentage of the population.

[The Mad Hatter]

Switzerland:
Population 8.2 million people.
First 10 confirmed cases on 02/28.
Lockdown on March 15.
Total deaths as of 04/21 = 1,478
0.018% of their country's population.

Sweden
Population 10.2 million people.
First 10 confirmed cases on 02/28.
No lockdown imposed, only advised.
Total deaths as of 04/21 = 1,765
0.017% of their country's population.

Proximity to the outbreaks in Italy probably ought to be taken into account, which is why comparing Sweden to other Scandinavian countries might make more sense.

[SB Shock]

11% with antibodies, regardless of testing for illness, is still really high as a percentage of the population.

I don’t think you can say it was the “population”. There is some issue with how they sampled.

[wufan]

I don’t think you can say it was the “population”. There is some issue with how they sampled.

What was the issue? Apologies that I didn’t read the article.

[SB Shock]

Sweden
No lockdown imposed, only advised.

Sweeten parliament on the 16th just gave their government the ability to close down schools and businesses without having to go to parliament. They have not moved yet but they have set the stage.

They also have moved the social distancing number from 500 to 50. Any business that doesn’t heed that will be fined.

They also shut down all visits to retirement homes. This had been left up to local communities prior.

They are also encouraging everybody to work from home as possible and encourage their citizens to act as “adults”.

It not the covid-19 “Wild West”, it more of soft lockdown with their own citizens just taking their own steps.

is what they chose to do right or wrong? Who knows at this point. But it worth watching because we might learn something one way or the other.

However, foreign minister Ann Linde, who spoke alongside Carlson at Friday’s briefing in Stockholm, dismissed the idea that life goes on as normal in Sweden, calling it “a myth.”

“Many people stay at home and have stopped travelling. Many businesses are collapsing. Unemployment is expected to rise dramatically,” Linde said.

“There is no full lockdown of Sweden, but many parts of Swedish society have shut down,” she argued.

[wsushox1]

So now I'm seeing "probable deaths" being counted in the official totals from places like NYC and Maryland. So no need for confirmation anymore?

This is where I don't trust the "process". If this disease is similar to a lot of others, how can you just count deaths that are "probable"? Seems like a numbers-skewing idea.

To be fair and consistent, probable flu deaths are also counted in flu death counts in any given year as well. So this is not out of the ordinary and ME's make probable cause of death assumptions for a lot of people.