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    • Originally posted by ShockerFever View Post
      https://apple.news/AepFtROQVR6q2BOO0pJ_-uQ

      If the Washington Post is actually doing this, you know the end is near.

      And I think that’s why Cold has gone MIA. He knows where this thing is headed and he’s probably taking a hard look at himself in the mirror.
      Dum Dum,

      I want the plague gone more than anyone.

      Signed,

      Your Hero

      P.S. Merry Christmas!

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      • Originally posted by C0|dB|00ded View Post

        Dum Dum,

        I want the plague gone more than anyone.

        Signed,

        Your Hero

        P.S. Merry Christmas!
        What dumb about it? There are many, many people with the same observations.

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        • Michael P Senger @MichaelPSenger

          They went from “these vaccines are 100% effective against infection, and we’ll give you free donuts if you get one” to “these vaccines were only meant to reduce symptoms, but get one whenever we tell you to or lose your job” in under a year with shockingly little resistance.

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          • When Does COVID Stop Being COVID?



            Into this Omicron is sweeping the world like wildfire, as would be expected from lab data that shows it’s five times as good at attaching to the ACE2 receptor as COVID because of its fifteen mutations in the Receptor Binding Domain. And as of this writing, the CDC website does not list a single death from Omicron. If the party guest was the common cold, we’d see a rare death here and there, but that’s all.

            As of this writing, one death in Texas has been associated with Omicron, but we don’t know if Omicron was the perp or an innocent bystander. England is reporting seven deaths, for a case fatality rate of 0.03%.

            These low mortality rates are reasonable because it’s well understood that the original spike protein caused all the inflammation and blood clotting that killed so many people. With Omicron’s radically different spike, it’s no surprise that we aren’t seeing massive inflammation, disseminated blood clots, and multiplying cemetery markers with it. If we define COVID as that highly lethal Chinese missile, then Omicron isn’t COVID.
            maelstrom of panic porn and confusion comes Omicron. And with it, we must consider a small amount of science. And I’m not talking about Lord Fauci, self-proclaimed Sovereign of Science. I’m talking about actual science. Two key points are critically important.

            First, mutations happen one at a time. That’s why Delta, the fourth named variant, has only two mutations on its spike protein. Second, viruses in the same family are well known to swap genetic material if they infect the same host. Coronaviruses happily do this with other coronaviruses, but not rhinoviruses, cytomegaloviruses, influenza viruses, or others from across the street. If one of the common cold coronaviruses happens to infect a host while its cousin COVID is already there, they can have a good time swapping toys back and forth. It doesn’t matter whether the host is a person, wild animal, or house cat, the result is the same. We have a new virus.

            Omicron is this sort of new virus. It has fifty-plus mutations, with thirty plus on the spike. This means that it did not happen by mutation. It was assembled during an intracellular key party, most likely between Delta and a common cold virus. And that explains everything that we’re seeing.

            Clinically, Omicron isn’t COVID. The vaccine for original COVID doesn’t work very well against it and, frankly, isn’t needed, because Omicron isn’t a threat.

            Omicron may, in fact, be the vaccine against COVID that the Dark Lord of Viruses says he wants. It still has lots of the envelope, mantle, and nucleocapsid from COVID, and those create robust immunity. But Omicron is, in its own way. a flawed vaccine because it’s natural. It works.

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            • Feel free to call me an idiot. I'm trying to learn.

              Here's the link to the Florida website about obtaining monoclonal antibodies:

              Monoclonal Antibody Therapy - Florida Department of Health COVID-19 Outbreak (floridahealthcovid19.gov)

              It's fairly simple to get them, and they are all over the state. They work incredibly well if you get sick, and especially so if you have underlying conditions or are at high risk.

              I searched for Kansas. About all I could find were a few old articles from early 2021 regarding a trial at KUMC.

              Can anyone provide some insight here? Do we have to board an Allegiant flight if we get sick?

              Or are we just going to refuse to get the treatment because Dr. Fauci thinks having readily available treatments will somehow encourage those not yet vaccinated to remain unvaccinated?


              I hope somebody can set me straight on this, I know we have several medical field posters here.
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              • Originally posted by WuDrWu View Post
                Feel free to call me an idiot. I'm trying to learn.

                Here's the link to the Florida website about obtaining monoclonal antibodies:

                Monoclonal Antibody Therapy - Florida Department of Health COVID-19 Outbreak (floridahealthcovid19.gov)

                It's fairly simple to get them, and they are all over the state. They work incredibly well if you get sick, and especially so if you have underlying conditions or are at high risk.

                I searched for Kansas. About all I could find were a few old articles from early 2021 regarding a trial at KUMC.

                Can anyone provide some insight here? Do we have to board an Allegiant flight if we get sick?

                Or are we just going to refuse to get the treatment because Dr. Fauci thinks having readily available treatments will somehow encourage those not yet vaccinated to remain unvaccinated?


                I hope somebody can set me straight on this, I know we have several medical field posters here.
                A friend of a friend is currently in the hospital, and when he arrived he asked for the Antibody therapy. Was told they don’t administer in the hospitals. Once there, you are there apparently to die, not be cured.

                He has since been put on a ventilator and toss up to whether he makes it.

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                • Originally posted by WuDrWu View Post
                  Feel free to call me an idiot. I'm trying to learn.

                  Here's the link to the Florida website about obtaining monoclonal antibodies:

                  Monoclonal Antibody Therapy - Florida Department of Health COVID-19 Outbreak (floridahealthcovid19.gov)

                  It's fairly simple to get them, and they are all over the state. They work incredibly well if you get sick, and especially so if you have underlying conditions or are at high risk.

                  I searched for Kansas. About all I could find were a few old articles from early 2021 regarding a trial at KUMC.

                  Can anyone provide some insight here? Do we have to board an Allegiant flight if we get sick?

                  Or are we just going to refuse to get the treatment because Dr. Fauci thinks having readily available treatments will somehow encourage those not yet vaccinated to remain unvaccinated?


                  I hope somebody can set me straight on this, I know we have several medical field posters here.
                  St. Francis has an infusion clinic.
                  Deuces Valley.
                  ... No really, deuces.
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                  - a smart man

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                  • Originally posted by WuDrWu View Post
                    Can anyone provide some insight here? Do we have to board an Allegiant flight if we get sick?
                    Here in Wichita I urged my employee's husband (mid-50's) and my wife's aunt (mid-70's) to both ask their doctors (firmly) about Regeneron. The husband went from nasty flu-like symptoms to feeling better in 72 hours after getting it. The much older aunt took longer to go (week and half after first symptoms), got an infusion but it was not Regeneron (not sure what it was). She vomited for a day or two after but felt better after about 72 to 96 hours. Not sure if the vomiting was a reaction to the infusion or Covid. Covid was jacking with her digestive system pretty badly before the infusion. Only lingering symptom for her now is just being tired.

                    Neither of them had any problem or push back getting the treatment when they asked for it.
                    Kung Wu say, man who read woman like book, prefer braille!

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                    • I believe the Kansas Medical Center on 21st Street in Andover has a monoclonal antibody infusiton clinic. At one time you had to be considered in hight risk to qualify. The infusion is done by IV and takes about an hour.

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                      • Most hospitals around have the monoclonial treatment. Some require you to be a high risk. Others not so much.

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                        • You need the infectious disease doc to sign off on the treatment. I’m not sure what qualifies folks to get it or be denied…certain risk factors, symptoms, and the timing of presentation vs date of infection play into the doctor’s decision.
                          Livin the dream

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                          • All pandemic long, scientists brawled over how the virus spreads. Droplets! No, aerosols! At the heart of the fight was a teensy error with huge consequences.


                            A pretty interesting story of how scientists fought to try and actually get the CDC and WHO to understand that they were wrong about how COVID was transmitted. CDC/WHO was adamant that it transmitted via large particles and via a touch of infected surfaces thus defining the 3-6 ft social distancing. The scientist tried to show them that the evidence pointed to aerosols. The final conclusion is the key to protecting against covid is:

                            1. Excellent ventilation either through circulating outside air or through filtering.

                            2. Using UV lights. They found this was an effective way to kill the disease.

                            Now you know why no football game with 60,0000 to 100,000 fans outside has ever become a super-spreader event. There are still people afraid that if they go out side they still might catch covid.

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                            • Originally posted by WuDrWu View Post
                              Feel free to call me an idiot. I'm trying to learn.

                              Here's the link to the Florida website about obtaining monoclonal antibodies:

                              Monoclonal Antibody Therapy - Florida Department of Health COVID-19 Outbreak (floridahealthcovid19.gov)

                              It's fairly simple to get them, and they are all over the state. They work incredibly well if you get sick, and especially so if you have underlying conditions or are at high risk.

                              I searched for Kansas. About all I could find were a few old articles from early 2021 regarding a trial at KUMC.

                              Can anyone provide some insight here? Do we have to board an Allegiant flight if we get sick?

                              Or are we just going to refuse to get the treatment because Dr. Fauci thinks having readily available treatments will somehow encourage those not yet vaccinated to remain unvaccinated?


                              I hope somebody can set me straight on this, I know we have several medical field posters here.
                              KWCH did a story about the Via Christi clinic that has it https://www.kwch.com/2021/09/17/anti...over-covid-19/ and lists out the criteria for antibody treatment or infusion treatment. The story is from September 2021, so some of the requirements may have changed.
                              Not responsible for damage from posts that sail over the reader's head.

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                              • Originally posted by Kung Wu View Post

                                Here in Wichita I urged my employee's husband (mid-50's) and my wife's aunt (mid-70's) to both ask their doctors (firmly) about Regeneron. The husband went from nasty flu-like symptoms to feeling better in 72 hours after getting it. The much older aunt took longer to go (week and half after first symptoms), got an infusion but it was not Regeneron (not sure what it was). She vomited for a day or two after but felt better after about 72 to 96 hours. Not sure if the vomiting was a reaction to the infusion or Covid. Covid was jacking with her digestive system pretty badly before the infusion. Only lingering symptom for her now is just being tired.

                                Neither of them had any problem or push back getting the treatment when they asked for it.
                                The aunt may have received Sotrovimab. Regeneron isn't as effective against omicron and the US government has quit shipping what they bought of it to hospitals - https://abcnews.go.com/Health/omicro...ry?id=81893922
                                Not responsible for damage from posts that sail over the reader's head.

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