Any news on Orukpe?

[Kung Wu]

In the last three games,however, it is 20 to 6 when EO is on the ocurt versus not on the court. I think it deserves further evaluation.

You don't get to exclude data because it doesn't fit your premise. :)

You could see if it's trending upward though.

[SubGod22]

You don't get to exclude data because it doesn't fit your premise. :)

You could see if it's trending upward though.

Tell that to Washington

[im4wsu]

You don't get to exclude data because it doesn't fit your premise. :)

You could see if it's trending upward though.

(a) wasn't MY premise. I reported only facts.

(b) the premise was presented from recent memory. "Recent" can be three or four or whatever. I was the one that selected "conference games" as the measure. Again, not my original premise.

(c) Just to reward that unnecessary and misdirected backhand comment, I don't believe I will spend 30 minutes compiling the other statistic you requested regarding other team's turnovers, because then again, I subject myself to criticism as to whether I choose 1 or 16 games to include in the comparison.

(d) The comment regarding last three was no more selective than the last four, simply because they are consecutive. To be truly selective, it would be like saying "Cle averages xx points, but only yy if you exclude the 39 points against SIU.: Now that, my friend, would be selective.

(e) Finally, I made no editorial comment regarding any premise or theory, other than maybe it deserves further evaluation, rather than dismissing it solely on the basis of a four game statistical comparison, of which the first of the four might be a statistical outlier.

[shoxlax]

Just playin' devil's advocate, but with BU's best shot block, Egolf, having missed 3 of the 4 conference games, I wonder how #1 and #2 are able "to play the game a little different" having more steals total than all 4 of WSU's guards?

More minutes from Lemon and Edwards? Just guessing.

[rrshock]

Tell that to Washington

You beat me to that one. I thought the same thing.

[rrshock]

(a) wasn't MY premise. I reported only facts.

(b) the premise was presented from recent memory. "Recent" can be three or four or whatever. I was the one that selected "conference games" as the measure. Again, not my original premise.

(c) Just to reward that unnecessary and misdirected backhand comment, I don't believe I will spend 30 minutes compiling the other statistic you requested regarding other team's turnovers, because then again, I subject myself to criticism as to whether I choose 1 or 16 games to include in the comparison.

(d) The comment regarding last three was no more selective than the last four, simply because they are consecutive. To be truly selective, it would be like saying "Cle averages xx points, but only yy if you exclude the 39 points against SIU.: Now that, my friend, would be selective.

(e) Finally, I made no editorial comment regarding any premise or theory, other than maybe it deserves further evaluation, rather than dismissing it solely on the basis of a four game statistical comparison, of which the first of the four might be a statistical outlier.

If you are the one doing the statistical evaluation, you get to choose what you evaluate. I appreciate your breakdown of that. I don't have the time or the patience to do that. Those numbers are trending upward and I feel that you are on to something.

[ShockTalk]

The difference is Bradley loses the game. They play that way and also give up the middle and lose. We play that way with 4 guys instead of 2 and the middle is covered....so we win the game.

Well, sort of. Bradley has won 2 of 4 games and played 2 teams which are probably better "teams" than they are. We have not played teams better than us.

More minutes from Lemon and Edwards? Just guessing.

Yes, each has played more minutes than any of WSU's 4 as individuals, however, leaving Cotton out because he's been playing the 3, DWill, MA, and FVV have played more total minutes with fewer steals (5.3 spg vs 7.5 spg). Add Cotton's minutes in on top of that and the 4 still have less steals.

[Ricardo del Rio]

In the last three games,however, it is 20 to 6 when EO is on the ocurt versus not on the court. I think it deserves further evaluation.

Your stats are good stuff, I am for WSU. Very good stuff.

[forevershockerfan]

We need to get a word from Mulligan who started this protracted thread that will go down into SN history. Speaking of mulligan, where they hay is he now? He gets us all lathered up and bails? No wonder some of us has abandonment issues (among other quirks) on here baybay. We need EO to go 10-10-10- and 10 at Evansville. Points, bounds, blocks, and altered shots. Is that a pipe dream or could it happen in a game some fine day this Season? Mulligan!!!!!!!!

[im4wsu]

We need to get a word from Mulligan who started this protracted thread that will go down into SN history. Speaking of mulligan, where they hay is he now? He gets us all lathered up and bails? No wonder some of us has abandonment issues (among other quirks) on here baybay. We need EO to go 10-10-10- and 10 at Evansville. Points, bounds, blocks, and altered shots. Is that a pipe dream or could it happen in a game some fine day this Season? Mulligan!!!!!!!!

Teach EO to pass the ball to Early, he could have 15 assists!

[im4wsu]

Turnovers with or without EO

Conference games only.

Game	w/EO	wo/EO
13	5	7
14	16	3
15	9	5
16	8	2
Total	38	17

Again, the trend of the last three games of 33 to 10 indicates further evaluation and monitoring is warranted.

[rrshock]

Teach EO to pass the ball to Early, he could have 15 assists!

lob it up and go get it!

[Kung Wu]

(a) wasn't MY premise. I reported only facts.

(b) the premise was presented from recent memory. "Recent" can be three or four or whatever. I was the one that selected "conference games" as the measure. Again, not my original premise.

(c) Just to reward that unnecessary and misdirected backhand comment, I don't believe I will spend 30 minutes compiling the other statistic you requested regarding other team's turnovers, because then again, I subject myself to criticism as to whether I choose 1 or 16 games to include in the comparison.

(d) The comment regarding last three was no more selective than the last four, simply because they are consecutive. To be truly selective, it would be like saying "Cle averages xx points, but only yy if you exclude the 39 points against SIU.: Now that, my friend, would be selective.

(e) Finally, I made no editorial comment regarding any premise or theory, other than maybe it deserves further evaluation, rather than dismissing it solely on the basis of a four game statistical comparison, of which the first of the four might be a statistical outlier.

Whoa. I have nothing but respect for the work you put into the data you share. It wasn't meant to be a negative comment at all. Not in any way, shape, or form. My intent for the smiley face was to indicate that I was joking around with you. I completely apologize.

In fact, while the small amount of data we have seen indicates that there is no correlation to @Aargh:'s premise (though it seems reasonable), your instinct that it still may be true gave ME pause in believing what the data was saying because I respect your instincts on this stuff that much. And that's why I began wondering about a trend, instead of arguing.

Again, I do apologize. But I am not kissing your ass, because I get paid for that. $100/hr on S. Broadway between 10:00pm to about 3:00am.

[pogo]

Whoa. I have nothing but respect for the work you put into the data you share. It wasn't meant to be a negative comment at all. Not in any way, shape, or form. My intent for the smiley face was to indicate that I was joking around with you. I completely apologize.

In fact, while the small amount of data we have seen indicates that there is no correlation to @Aargh:'s premise (though it seems reasonable), your instinct that it still may be true gave ME pause in believing what the data was saying because I respect your instincts on this stuff that much. And that's why I began wondering about a trend, instead of arguing.

Again, I do apologize. But I am not kissing your ass, because I get paid for that. $100/hr on S. Broadway between 10:00pm to about 3:00am.

No wonder your lips looked chapped.

[im4wsu]

Whoa. I have nothing but respect for the work you put into the data you share. It wasn't meant to be a negative comment at all. Not in any way, shape, or form. My intent for the smiley face was to indicate that I was joking around with you. I completely apologize.

In fact, while the small amount of data we have seen indicates that there is no correlation to @Aargh's premise (though it seems reasonable), your instinct that it still may be true gave ME pause in believing what the data was saying because I respect your instincts on this stuff that much. And that's why I began wondering about a trend, instead of arguing.

Again, I do apologize. But I am not kissing your ass, because I get paid for that. $100/hr on S. Broadway between 10:00pm to about 3:00am.

Thanks. Will send you $100.