2016-17 National Rankings

[moshock]

what ranked team did creighton beat?

Wisconsin

[shocks02]

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/rankings/_/poll/1/week/6/seasontype/2

#27 in AP this week.

[Stickboy46]

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-bas...6/seasontype/2

#27 in AP this week.

Loyola receiving a vote also.

[Cdizzle]

Big gap in votes between 25 and 26. But we're higher than I would have guessed. Close enough that a win over OSU and some help in front of us should get us very close to back in. Maybe a week earlier than I thought possible.

[ShockdaWorld]

Can't hate that!!!

[ShockerFever]

Loyola receiving a vote also.

Does the same Loyola newspaper chick who voted Loyola for first last year have a vote in the poll?

[WuShock Reaper]

12/12/16

AP Top 25 Rankings - #27 and 33 points (compared to last week of #35 and 5 points)

Coaches Top 25 Rankings - #27 and 29 points (compared to last week o #39 and 5 points)

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/rankings

[_kai_]

Does the same Loyola newspaper chick who voted Loyola for first last year have a vote in the poll?

http://collegebasketball.ap.org/poll-voter/john-feinstein

John Feinstein had Loyola #25, and Wichita State #21.

Is the Loyola woman the gal who writes for the Chicago Tribune? She didn't vote Loyola this week. Shannon something or other.

[Play Angry]

27 is really pretty good - a little higher than I expected. Take care of business this weekend and we might spend Christmas ranked.

[Jamar Howard 4 President]

But 10-0 vs. 9-2 doesn't account for the gulf between 10th and 35th / 39th (last week) That's where the narrative I described comes in, and you're being silly and snarky

Not silly in the slightest. Just realistic. In the top 25 alone, there are 11 one-loss teams. Go look in the "other receiving votes" group and you will find a bunch more one-loss teams. 10-0 vs 9-2 can most definitely account for a wide gulf in ranking. It's still the first half of December for crying out loud.

Creighton is undefeated including a top 15 win, yet there are still 5 one-loss teams in front of them. Tell me again how it takes some mysterious narrative to justify that resume at #10?

Last week WSU had 2 losses and was yet to beat anyone expected to even make the NIT.
This week, with a single NIT-ish victory tacked on, nearly half the pollsters have included WSU in their personal top 25s.

Yet somehow WSU is getting screwed or something. lol. This silliness just cracks me up.

[WSUwatcher]

AP Top 25 Preseason Rankings - #34 (21 points)

Coaches Top 25 Preseason Rankings - #37 (15 points)

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/rankings

So, for all the poll fans, the Shocks have gained ground in both polls so far: up seven spots and 12 points in AP and ten spots and 14 points in USA / Coaches. If they keep this up, they may end up in a better position, at least as far the pollsters are concerned, than the 2012-13 team. And we know how they "overachieved."

[ShockTalk]

So, for all the poll fans, the Shocks have gained ground in both polls so far: up seven spots and 12 points in AP and ten spots and 14 points in USA / Coaches. If they keep this up, they may end up in a better position, at least as far the pollsters are concerned, than the 2012-13 team. And we know how they "overachieved."

We will be tested early and often over the next 10 games. OSU, IN St (2), Loyola, @IL St, @EU, and @UNI.

[shockmonster]

OU is going to win some games in the Big 12. None of us know exactly how the Big 12 race will go except they will have a high conference RPI. By March, it is reasonable and logical to surmise, the OU win will be a good win. If we continue to win, it will most likely be a good resume builder. For anyone to make more or less from this win is not logical because of a lack of information. We will know more and be able to make better assumptions later in Jan./Feb.

[Shocker1976]

So, for all the poll fans, the Shocks have gained ground in both polls so far: up seven spots and 12 points in AP and ten spots and 14 points in USA / Coaches. If they keep this up, they may end up in a better position, at least as far the pollsters are concerned, than the 2012-13 team. And we know how they "overachieved."

I will accept that same "overachievement' this season and let the all-knowing pollsters continue to operate in their own reality.

[SHOCKvalue]

Not silly in the slightest. Just realistic. In the top 25 alone, there are 11 one-loss teams. Go look in the "other receiving votes" group and you will find a bunch more one-loss teams. 10-0 vs 9-2 can most definitely account for a wide gulf in ranking. It's still the first half of December for crying out loud.

Creighton is undefeated including a top 15 win, yet there are still 5 one-loss teams in front of them. Tell me again how it takes some mysterious narrative to justify that resume at #10?

Last week WSU had 2 losses and was yet to beat anyone expected to even make the NIT.
This week, with a single NIT-ish victory tacked on, nearly half the pollsters have included WSU in their personal top 25s.

Yet somehow WSU is getting screwed or something. lol. This silliness just cracks me up.

How many of the teams populating the AP Top 25 have wins against an expected NCAA tournament team and/or another team currently in the AP top 25? Creighton certainly does, not arguing that, but what about the balance?

I always get a kick out of the P5 fan logic (not saying that's you, per se) that says "well duh, they're not ranked because they haven't played anybody", when it's still non-con season and a substantial proportion of the T25 haven't... wait for it... played anybody themselves.

Besides, I'm really happy for our friends up in Omaha and their representation in the AP Poll. In only 61 more weeks of polling where they're in the AP top 25, and WSU is not, they will equal WSU's total number of weeks ranked in the AP top 25. When it comes to the AP top 10 it might take a little longer though, since they're currently in week number five all-time in that category, whereas WSU has been there 63 weeks, all-told. Oh, and further congrats are in order for the Bluejays on their highest ranking ever this week at AP #9. Not sure when they will ever hit AP #1 or #2 like WSU has, but like the little engine that could they sure can give it their best effort.