Austin Reaves

[_kai_]

KC is banned, I was on vacation, damn.

[Eric]

We had a kid on our football team some years back. His shoulder would dislocate two or three times a game. Tough kid, but he may not be able to wipe his own butt when he's 30.

[molly jabali]

We had a kid on our football team some years back. His shoulder would dislocate two or three times a game. Tough kid, but he may not be able to wipe his own butt when he's 30.

Thanks for THAT visual!!!:)

[shocka khan]

OK, RoyalShock, I have a question.

It seems like there's selective banning going on, here. My question and concern regards MoValleyJohn, our resident troll:

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I think KC Shock's posts have been inflammatory and unacceptable from the beginning and I am happy you have banned him, but why do we continue to have to tolerate the troll I'm complaining about posting off-topic material on many of these threads without any protests from ANY of the moderators. His off-topic posts about hunting and guns should be removed from any threads they're posted on (unless he wants to set up a thread like 'my new gun' or 'what I killed on my vacation'.

[Aargh]

Interesting approach - going off-topic to complain about posters going off-topic.

[shocka khan]

Interesting approach - going off-topic to complain about posters going off-topic.

I copied the quote from a post earlier, so if you're going to criticize someone for going off topic, you might want to start at the person who made the TOS post. I merely copied it.

I would be most happy to accept any suggestions regards the thread placement of this item, but I think it fits well in here, as it was reproduced to document how KC had violated it. I'm just presenting an alternative opinion about people posting off-topic in these threads.

Now, since I would REALLY like to hear what Reaves prognosis is, I would like for the local folks in Wichita to keep any medical updates coming, as I am hoping he won't miss much time. He looks to have more potential than all of our other guards and he plays well beyond his years.

[giskard]

I copied the quote from a post earlier, so if you're going to criticize someone for going off topic, you might want to start at the person who made the TOS post. I merely copied it.

I would be most happy to accept any suggestions regards the thread placement of this item, but I think it fits well in here, as it was reproduced to document how KC had violated it. I'm just presenting an alternative opinion about people posting off-topic in these threads.

Now, since I would REALLY like to hear what Reaves prognosis is, I would like for the local folks in Wichita to keep any medical updates coming, as I am hoping he won't miss much time. He looks to have more potential than all of our other guards and he plays well beyond his years.

Here is the latest update from Suellentrop on Reaves prognosis:

http://www.kansas.com/sports/college/wichita-state/article117406938.html

[Aargh]

We have learned from this that Reaves is a lot tougher than we may have thought, and that he's got a lot of heart and fight. He's got a lot of VanVleet's attitude. That's a good thing. Too bad we don't seem to have any upper class guys with that type of attitude.

[1972Shocker]

I hope they take the long view with Austin. If he can continue to play this year without a significant risk to his basketball future as a Shocker and beyond then fine and dandy. We can sure use him.

However, I would rather have him as healthy as possible for the next 3 or 4 years than to jeapordize that in any signficant way for whatever he can give us this year. What level of risk would be acceptable I can't say. Nor do I know, if he did qualify for a medical redshirt, whether rehabbing the shoulder between now and next fall would yield any significant reduction in risk for Austin.

I am confident that whatever decisions are made will be in Austin's best interest. Sounds like he will probably be back this year unless someone can convince the decision-makers on this that an extended rehab would yield signficant risk reduction. If he is back I'll just have to continue to hold my breath everytime Austin mixes it up which will be quite often from what I have seen of him.

[Eric]

I hope they take the long view with Austin. If he can continue to play this year without a significant risk to his basketball future as a Shocker and beyond then fine and dandy. We can sure use him.

However, I would rather have him as healthy as possible for the next 3 or 4 years than to jeapordize that in any signficant way for whatever he can give us this year. What level of risk would be acceptable I can't say. Nor do I know, if he did qualify for a medical redshirt, whether rehabbing the shoulder between now and next fall would yield any significant reduction in risk for Austin.

I am confident that whatever decisions are made will be in Austin's best interest. Sounds like he will probably be back this year unless someone can convince the decision-makers on this that an extended rehab would yield signficant risk reduction. If he is back I'll just have to continue to hold my breath everytime Austin mixes it up which will be quite often from what I have seen of him.

Agreed, although it may be a case of "those shoulders only have X number of games left in them regardless." Those that are best able to make those calls will be involved in the decision making. It presents some tough choices.

[ShockRef]

I hope they take the long view with Austin. If he can continue to play this year without a significant risk to his basketball future as a Shocker and beyond then fine and dandy. We can sure use him.

However, I would rather have him as healthy as possible for the next 3 or 4 years than to jeapordize that in any signficant way for whatever he can give us this year. What level of risk would be acceptable I can't say. Nor do I know, if he did qualify for a medical redshirt, whether rehabbing the shoulder between now and next fall would yield any significant reduction in risk for Austin.

I am confident that whatever decisions are made will be in Austin's best interest. Sounds like he will probably be back this year unless someone can convince the decision-makers on this that an extended rehab would yield signficant risk reduction. If he is back I'll just have to continue to hold my breath everytime Austin mixes it up which will be quite often from what I have seen of him.

1972,
Spot on and couldn't agree more. I would like to see them take a slow, cautious approach.

However, get the feeling this kid is that one of a kind breed you just can't keep off the floor.
He seems like the type to gnaw the rope that holds him or chew the bars off the cage he is in to get back out there.

Basically, he is Wessel Part II, with a lot more talent.

He is HCGM's kind of kid and would take 12 more just like him in an instant.

That is all.

[60Shock]

Just wishing that everything concerning Austin's future works out to be the very best thing for this extremely gutsy and talented young man, with everything else being secondary.

[shock]

It was a known condition before he stepped foot on campus. It has happened once already this season. Normally he would have put it back an and gone back into the game.
Those are the facts. That is what we know. Based on that, I'd say we see him back as good as ever against our next DI opponent.
Also, this is why WSU pays Kerry. I would venture to guess that next summer is the first sports break with healthy shoulders that Austin has had in a long time. Let him get some quality work in with a world class trainer and the extra muscle should help him keep his shoulders in socket.

[WuShock Reaper]

If i don't have this correct, someone please correct me.

To gain a medical redshirt, an athlete cannot compete in more than 30 percent of their team’s games within a season, not counting contests officially designated as scrimmages or exhibition games. When such computations are made, fractions are rounded up. For example, if the Shockers play 31 games this season, the exact 30 percent mark is 9.3. For the purposes of medical redshirt eligibility, therefore, Austin Reaves may compete in ten (10) games and still be eligible for a medical redshirt. He has played in seven (7) games, so he may participate in three (3) more games before a final decision would have to be made.

[1972Shocker]

If i don't have this correct, someone please correct me.

To gain a medical redshirt, an athlete cannot compete in more than 30 percent of their team’s games within a season, not counting contests officially designated as scrimmages or exhibition games. When such computations are made, fractions are rounded up. For example, if the Shockers play 31 games this season, the exact 30 percent mark is 9.3. For the purposes of medical redshirt eligibility, therefore, Austin Reaves may compete in ten (10) games and still be eligible for a medical redshirt. He has played in seven (7) games, so he may participate in three (3) more games before a final decision would have to be made.

I think that is correct and I think you still have to apply for the medical hardship waiver that provides a documented medical basis for holding the player out. If he comes back and plays without incident I would fully expect he will conitnue on. If he is re-injured within the threshold of games then who knows. My hope would be if he comes back he can escape re-injury for the remainder of the season although that might be wishful thinking. As @ShockRef noted Austin doesn't seem to be pre-disposed to sitting out.

My guess is that with the history of last summer's surgery and two dislocations since then that a documented medical basis would not be that difficult.

He won't be needed against Southern Nazarene but that doesn't mean he won't play if his MRI and his evaluation goes well.