2016-17 Bracketology

[ShockerPrez]

If KSU gets in it is bullshit. But I think they will go ahead and drop their last 2, so it will be moot anyway.

[ROOT ANGRY!]

For those wondering...

On Selection Sunday last year the bracketmatrix had WSU in 137 of 144 brackets, with an average seed of 9.86. They were projected as the 5th-to-last team in. The 11 seed and a play-in game was a surprise, but not completely out of nowhere.

Today, the matrix just updated, and WSU is in 111 of 113 brackets, with an average seed of 9.42. They are projected as the 10th-to-last team in. WSU is not actually on the bubble, no matter what Jerry Palm says. Only a loss on Friday can change that.

I love our prospects this week.

That said, what's your reasoning that a Saturday loss would be no case for concern?

[Jamar Howard 4 President]

That was after our loss to ISUr in Arch Madness last year though. This whole scenario hinges on us losing in St. Louis. If we do lose that will completely change our numbers this year for the worse. At that point would be a fair time to compare the numbers.

For the record, I think we will win Arch Madness and not even have to worry about this.

True, they are not yet apples to apples numbers, but I think a 1-1 record in St. Louis would drop WSU by only a little, and the selection sunday numbers on bracket matrix would look just as good, if not better, than last year's did.

[Jamar Howard 4 President]

I love our prospects this week.

That said, what's your reasoning that a Saturday loss would be no case for concern?

The Shox have enough of a buffer between them and the current bubble to absorb a Saturday loss and still get a bid.

[DwShock]

http://collegebasketball.nbcsports.com/2017/02/27/bracketology-gonzaga-holds-on-to-no-1-seed/

[DwShock]

http://collegebasketball.nbcsports.c...-to-no-1-seed/

Mixed emotions about this on BJ underground

[Cdizzle]

Mixed emotions about this on BJ underground

Everything you need to know about BJ fans: "Even if we did lose, we're in the Big East and they're in the MVC"

Their entire self-worth as a program is tied to conference affiliation and the accomplishments of others. It's hilarious. Especially when you read about how they still have too many "MVC-level players."

News flash: Gregg Marshall won 9 NCAA games in 4 years with an entire roster of MVC-level players. Individual teams make quality, not conference affiliation.

[BOBB]

Mixed emotions about this on BJ underground

Interesting, assumes us as at large qnd IlSt as autobid. Creighton then 'Zona?

Illinois State v Virginia...literally tens of points scored. Take the under no matter what.

[Dave Stalwart]

Please let KU somehow have to play Illinois State.

[shoxxfmr]

Arizona's already 'sweating' the 10/2 matchup possiblity!

[ShockingButTrue]

Please let KU somehow have to play Illinois State.

If the Shockers and Redbirds both get in, someone's going to stay in the Midwest with the Chickens.

[Stickboy46]

Everything you need to know about BJ fans: "Even if we did lose, we're in the Big East and they're in the MVC"

Their entire self-worth as a program is tied to conference affiliation and the accomplishments of others. It's hilarious. Especially when you read about how they still have too many "MVC-level players."

News flash: Gregg Marshall won 9 NCAA games in 4 years with an entire roster of MVC-level players. Individual teams make quality, not conference affiliation.

There are actually people discussing the possibility of getting a 2 seed ... They are more likely to miss the tourney completely than to get a 2 seed.

[CBB_Fan]

Last year also had an X-Factor that couldn't be predetermined, so even a post loss comparison wouldn't necessarily be apples to apples. We simply couldn't know how the committee would treat the injuries, and we still don't know. Maybe they completely ignored them, and we really should have gotten a 10 seed if they were did their due diligence. Maybe they had us out and the injuries were the only reason we even got a play-in.

I do think that this year we should be safe though, though a Friday loss would create a lot of questions we really don't want answered. There are a lot of reasons for this, one big one being the eye test. Simply put, the low offense games last season made us look worse than the 100 point romps we've had recently.

But some of it has to do with the shallowness of the A10, the falloff of the MWC, and the rise of 6-12 power conference bubble team. It takes a special type of person to think a barely .500 team should be in the dance over us, and that is what it would take. And I'm not talking about .500 in conference.

[Stickboy46]

Last year also had an X-Factor that couldn't be predetermined, so even a post loss comparison wouldn't necessarily be apples to apples. We simply couldn't know how the committee would treat the injuries, and we still don't know. Maybe they completely ignored them, and we really should have gotten a 10 seed if they were did their due diligence. Maybe they had us out and the injuries were the only reason we even got a play-in.

I do think that this year we should be safe though, though a Friday loss would create a lot of questions we really don't want answered. There are a lot of reasons for this, one big one being the eye test. Simply put, the low offense games last season made us look worse than the 100 point romps we've had recently.

But some of it has to do with the shallowness of the A10, the falloff of the MWC, and the rise of 6-12 power conference bubble team. It takes a special type of person to think a barely .500 team should be in the dance over us, and that is what it would take. And I'm not talking about .500 in conference.

The fact that we have ZERO bad losses this year helps us a bunch too. The ISU and two UNI losses hurt us last year. We were a team that trended up and then started back down. This year, barring a Friday or Saturday exit, will be a team that is on a skyrocket upwards trend. Only loss since December will be on the road to a ~30 RPI team. (plus the loss in the finals to ISU for this all to matter)

[molly jabali]

In Jerry's world, a WSU WIN over OU is holding them back from getting in. Meanwhile a KSU LOSS by 30 points to OU is keeping them in.

I know that's a snapshot thing but I find it hilarious.

He is the POSTER child for the "anybody can be employed SOMEWHERE" movement