2016-17 Bracketology

[shock-it-to-me]

Soooo much gnashing of teeth over at phog.net concerning Wichita State being the 8/9 seed in their region. Funny stuff!

[im4wsu]

D) maybe I'm missing your point, but DM averages 10 points a game for the Bulls and a significant amount of minutes.

Comparing first year of Doug to first part of first year of Ron and Fred:

	Doug	Ron	Fred
Year	2014	2016	2016
Team	CHI	NYK	TOR
GP	36	28	21
GS	0	3	0
MIN	320	327	145
PTS	109	93	60
FGM	43	34	22
FGA	107	91	61
FG%	40.2	37.4	36.1
3PM	13	13	7
3PA	41	41	18
3P%	31.7	31.7	38.9
FTM	10	12	9
FTA	15	20	11
FT%	66.7	60	81.8
OREB	6	6	3
DREB	37	35	16
REB	43	41	19
AST	6	33	18
STL	4	16	10
BLK	1	3	1
TOV	17	20	4
PF	29	29	18
+/-	-82	14	42

[Jamar Howard 4 President]

Think you're right on this. Tim regularly finishes in the top third in accuracy among the bracketmatrix crowd, and was top 10 a couple years ago.
P.S. I'm not Tim or related to him.

I do not see him listed in the rankings.

http://www.bracketmatrix.com/rankings.html

[AndShock]

I do not see him listed in the rankings.

http://www.bracketmatrix.com/rankings.html

TK's Bracket Breakdown

[OTR Shockfan]

Soooo much gnashing of teeth over at phog.net concerning Wichita State being the 8/9 seed in their region. Funny stuff!

I kinda thought the same thing ,,,(not even sure why I was over there) bored I guess LOL

[Jamar Howard 4 President]

TK's Bracket Breakdown

So he did his own bracketology for a number of years as TK's BB (BBB abbreviation on the matrix site) and this year he is part of a new site? (bigplay.com) OK, makes sense why I couldn't find him.

I will say, his overall projections this year look reasonable, although having Georgia Tech AND ISUr both in and WSU out is really strange.

Georgia Tech
16-11 (7-7 ACC)
RPI 76
Forecasted RPI 84
KenPom 76

[RoyalShock]

Andy Bottoms, the #1 rated bracketologist over the past 5 years, has WSU in as a 10-seed today.

[Topshock]

Soooo much gnashing of teeth over at phog.net concerning Wichita State being the 8/9 seed in their region. Funny stuff!

Checked in with the Phog and while this is true, I also have never seen WSU given as much respect as they are getting. Biggest complaint over there is that we are always underseeded and that is unfair to the teams that play us and it wouldn't be fair if we played so close to home in Tulsa. Didn't even see a little brother reference.

[shock-it-to-me]

Comparing first year of Doug to first part of first year of Ron and Fred:

	Doug	Ron	Fred
Year	2014	2016	2016
Team	CHI	NYK	TOR
GP	36	28	21
GS	0	3	0
MIN	320	327	145
PTS	109	93	60
FGM	43	34	22
FGA	107	91	61
FG%	40.2	37.4	36.1
3PM	13	13	7
3PA	41	41	18
3P%	31.7	31.7	38.9
FTM	10	12	9
FTA	15	20	11
FT%	66.7	60	81.8
OREB	6	6	3
DREB	37	35	16
REB	43	41	19
AST	6	33	18
STL	4	16	10
BLK	1	3	1
TOV	17	20	4
PF	29	29	18
+/-	-82	14	42

Not a fair comparison as Doug had an ankle injury that severely limited him his rookie season.

[boltforge]

Checked in with the Phog and while this is true, I also have never seen WSU given as much respect as they are getting. Biggest complaint over there is that we are always underseeded and that is unfair to the teams that play us and it wouldn't be fair if we played so close to home in Tulsa. Didn't even see a little brother reference.

Would anyone want to be a 1 seed, play a 8/9 seed (that is a 3/4 seed by ability), and the 8/9 seed is playing within a 2 hour drive of its fan base? (A faithful fan base that travels really well.)

[WSUwatcher]

And don't forget, bolt -- a #8-9 that knows it can beat you and looks forward to the chance to do it again. Definitely not the ideal opponent.

Edit: Also, very intereesting comparison involving 2014 McDermott, im4. Striking similarity to Baker, although Ron's ball handling is obviously much superior. Given Ron's skills on defense, this may bode well for his future, especially if he gets with someone that plays actual team basketball (although he does seem to have the advantage right now of a coach who appreciates where he's coming from). Just two things: 1) We've obviously sold Little McD short on athleticism -- he managed to block an NBA shot; and 2) How the heck is Ron only shooting 60% at the line? I know 20 FTs is a small sample, but still.

[shocks02]

Little different narrative going on over at ESPN.



Seth Greenberg Verified account 
@SethOnHoops

All you have to do is watch to realize @GoShockers: are tourney worthy. They are a team others don't want to see in their bracket.

[Rocky Mountain Shock]

Would anyone want to be a 1 seed, play a 8/9 seed (that is a 3/4 seed by ability), and the 8/9 seed is playing within a 2 hour drive of its fan base? (A faithful fan base that travels really well.)

That sounds strangely familiar...<cough> 2014 <cough>...

[ShockerFever]

Not a fair comparison as Doug had an ankle injury that severely limited him his rookie season.

How does a WSU fan even remember something like that?

[Stickboy46]

I love Haslametrics team breakdowns. He currently has us 8th in the country and in a 6 seed slot and ranked 10th in "momentum" which is a measure of recent performances.

http://haslametrics.com/ratings2.php?yr=&tid=5471

Also interesting. ISU is ranked 8th from the bottom of DI in Momentum

http://haslametrics.com/ratings2.php?yr=&tid=4597